Tengu

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/

In freekin mobs of a billion every time I see them! No way around them! You have to go through a red blob on your compass that's bigger than the bloody image itself.
You can't outrun them (they're faster than you are), you can't overpower them (they outnumber you 10:1).
What the hell is up with this? They're not a natural barrier (like a mountain), they're an enemy! You shouldn't have to die 2387429834 times to get through the area they're occupying!

Scatter these stupid things! Have groups of 4, NOT 40!
Or at least LOWER THEIR LEVEL!

ElderAtronach

ElderAtronach

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

Yep, the tengu are IMO the hardest enemy groups in the game. They'd probably kick the snot out of mursaat and jades if they were infused. I'd suggest making friends with a protection monk or 3. Or 4 or 5. :-/

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Tengu groups are all too efective, I hate then too ...

Also I feel they are too powerful for their listed level, I seen then having no problems in getting rid of the lv15 ettins and undead that enter their aggro circle.

I hate going to ascalon settement since the faster road leading to it appears to be guarded by a entire Tengu division,

InvaderGIR

InvaderGIR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

If you thing the Tengu swarms are bad, wait until you see their Avicara cousins in Mineral Springs! The snow plains are literally filled with them. And if you aggro one, you aggro them all. It's no fun when you have five ranger type Avicara launching ignited dual shots at you.

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ristaron
No way around them! You have to go through a red blob on your compass that's bigger than the bloody image itself.
Where are you seeing this? At lower levels, I just go around them. I'm unaware of any place in the game where you have to fight your way through them, at least not while I can't. I think the ones in Stingray Strand guarding the chest you need to open to complete a quest are the only Tengu you need to fight west of the Shiverpeaks. (In the Southern Shiverpeaks, you'll find the Avicara, but by then you're level 20 and they aren't too hard to deal with. Incidently, Avicara are Tengu too, according to the manual. Camori and Avicara are just two different tribes of Tengu.)

deathwearer

deathwearer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Canada/Quebec

Silentum Altum

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by InvaderGIR
If you thing the Tengu swarms are bad, wait until you see their Avicara cousins in Mineral Springs! The snow plains are literally filled with them. And if you aggro one, you aggro them all. It's no fun when you have five ranger type Avicara launching ignited dual shots at you.
omg, i hate that place, i used to clear it everyday without any problem, and one day bang, i die here at the very begening with the same char, same skills =|

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

I love tengu. Damn, if only they didn't have so many enchant breakers in them, i would get my revenge on them big time!
They are just how an enemy should be...very tough. I would like to see more of them. (IMO)

arnansnow

arnansnow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

DOOM

E/N

I had no trouble with tengu, now the Avicara are the worst. I was attempting to go to Camp Rankor. Right before the camp, there was around 20 Avicara of all types, and they were all around the Rez place. Attempting to run past them gets you into the Shadowy guys who are just as bad.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by arnansnow
I had no trouble with tengu, now the Avicara are the worst. I was attempting to go to Camp Rankor. Right before the camp, there was around 20 Avicara of all types, and they were all around the spawn point. Attempting to run past them gets you into the Shadowy guys who are just as bad.
LOL. i too am an ascended "hero" who is also clever (or cowardly) enough to avoid the southern shiverpeaks.

Avicara...sweet. Please Anet give us a field full of avicara braves only so we can have big fights, lol.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by arnansnow
I had no trouble with tengu, now the Avicara are the worst. I was attempting to go to Camp Rankor. Right before the camp, there was around 20 Avicara of all types, and they were all around the Rez place. Attempting to run past them gets you into the Shadowy guys who are just as bad.
LOL I saw that too. I aggro'd the group to draw them away from the rez shrine then I left my poor henchmen pack and ran like h-e-double toothpicks. I found, to my dismay, the shadowy guys who promptly snuffed my monkish behind. Luckily though we res'd at the shrine right there and effectively took care of the shadow guys and the Avicara were still up the road where they'd conquered the henchmen so I avoided the fight. After that, one more something or another and I was in Camp Rankor.

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

Tengu are cool really they whil clear your path of mobs if you play it right hehe

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Barbed Trap - Trap
When Barbed Trap is triggered, all foes in the area take 20-56 piercing damage, become "Crippled" and begin "Bleeding" for 3-21 seconds. Barbed Trap ends after 90 seconds. While activating this skill, you are easily interrupted.

Apply Poison - Preparation
For 24 seconds, enemies struck by your physical attacks become poisoned for 3-13 seconds.

Ignite Arrows - Preparation
For 24 seconds, your arrows explode on contact, dealing 3-15 Fire damage.

Dual Shot - Bow Attack
Shoot two arrows simultaneously at target foe. These arrows deal 25% less damage than normal.

Lightning Reflexes - Stance
For 5-10 seconds, you have a 75% chance to "evade" melee and arrow attacks, and attack 33% faster.

Throw Dirt - Skill
Target touched foe and foes adjacent to your target are Blinded for 3-13 seconds.

Whirling Defense - Stance
For 8-18 seconds, you have a 75% chance to "Block" attacks. Whenever you block an attack this way, adjacent foes take 5-10 piercing damage.

Storm Chaser - Stance
For 8-18 seconds, you move 25% faster and gain 1-4 Energy whenever you take Elemental damage.

....and Tengus are no longer a problem.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Amongus
Barbed Trap - Trap
When Barbed Trap is triggered, all foes in the area take 20-56 piercing damage, become "Crippled" and begin "Bleeding" for 3-21 seconds. Barbed Trap ends after 90 seconds. While activating this skill, you are easily interrupted.

Apply Poison - Preparation
For 24 seconds, enemies struck by your physical attacks become poisoned for 3-13 seconds.

Ignite Arrows - Preparation
For 24 seconds, your arrows explode on contact, dealing 3-15 Fire damage.

Dual Shot - Bow Attack
Shoot two arrows simultaneously at target foe. These arrows deal 25% less damage than normal.

Lightning Reflexes - Stance
For 5-10 seconds, you have a 75% chance to "evade" melee and arrow attacks, and attack 33% faster.

Throw Dirt - Skill
Target touched foe and foes adjacent to your target are Blinded for 3-13 seconds.

Whirling Defense - Stance
For 8-18 seconds, you have a 75% chance to "Block" attacks. Whenever you block an attack this way, adjacent foes take 5-10 piercing damage.

Storm Chaser - Stance
For 8-18 seconds, you move 25% faster and gain 1-4 Energy whenever you take Elemental damage.

....and Tengus are no longer a problem.
Poor tengu

Sounds like a vicious build, Fungus! Please don't get on my opposing team in PvP.

Talesin Darkbriar

Talesin Darkbriar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

California - irrigated desert...

The Myrmidon

E/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ristaron
You can't outrun them (they're faster than you are), you can't overpower them (they outnumber you 10:1).
What the hell is up with this?
Are you trying to rush past them? Bad monkey ~ no banana for you~!
Try FIGHTING them.
They are not terribly bright, and are easily manipulated into choke points.

Talesin

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar
Are you trying to rush past them? Bad monkey ~ no banana for you~!
Try FIGHTING them.
They are not terribly bright, and are easily manipulated into choke points.

Talesin
That's what my previously stated approach takes advantage of. Set a few traps at a choke point, lure them in. Once they are crippled (and of course bunched up tight) nail them with aoe attacks like ignite arrow and dual shot while 33%faster with Lightning Reflexes. When the crippling from the traps is almost worn off, hit them with Throw Dirt. That buys more time to attack again, set another trap, and repeat. If they manage to get the upper hand then use the defences in sequence to get the heck out! With those few defensive sklls equipped you can almost always keep one active. When a defensive skill is about to wear out, then use storm chaser to bolt out of aggro range while they are blind. Found this all out trying to go north of fisherman's haven with henches.

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

step 1 - learn to fear the Avicara and Caromi
step 2 - learn to respect the Avicara and Caromi
step 3 - learn to love the Avicara and Caromi
step 4 - have some Avicara tea and a game of poker

quanzong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere cold

The Followers of the Messiah

W/Me

All you do is get a group of elementalists, nuke em X8. Im sure they be running instead of you then.

Deathlord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

PVP Ranger: Does Stuff Fast

XXX

W/Mo

If only ANet could reflect hench AI on Tengu AI, then you can breeze through the missions in a day (Henchies).

Talesin Darkbriar

Talesin Darkbriar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

California - irrigated desert...

The Myrmidon

E/N

Every class has a opponent that is very difficult to beat; its the rock-paper-scissors model again.
Being a caster, I don't want to be anywhere within melee range of the more ferocious creatures - like avicara. That said, the trick is to discover your class weakness, and avoid it as best as possible.
You don't play the opponents game, you make him play yours.

Thomasuwoo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Savior Of Souls

W/E

Bring amnity and have a nice chat with them before walking away.

Perishiko ReLLiK

Perishiko ReLLiK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Divine Guardians of the Soul (Soul)

Mo/E

Ha, i didnt really read much of the post, or the replies... but i gotta say...

.;'*';. I Love the tengu .;'*';.

I don't care if they're incredibly hard for my henchies (before this last patch... when they use to lure them all at one time, dont know if they still do that...)... it's hillarious how well these monsters are placed... destroying enchantments, murdering casters/healers... oh i love them...

(I didnt have a problem with them using my healer + healer henchy)

But... my ele at low lvl got murdered over and over... so much fun... i love those little guys. I want to grab one and give it a "noogy(sp)"...

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

A little bit of pacifism goes a long way too.

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Well you know whats really a problem of a clumped groups, is the mobs outside or the copperhammer mines (i think its that town) infront of the necro boss with offering of blood. There is like 100 of them and when you get near one, they all attack you. It's just a huge mob of them and when you die and ressurect, you ressurect right near that big mob again. I was able to cap the skill by attacking the boss up on a cliff.

bigfatguy

bigfatguy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

My bed

Illusion of Dark

i have the same problem!!!!!!! it's like a special occasion when i get through, i usually end up slowly dodging around the agro circle, getting seen by two and then being swamped by about 500000000000!!!!!! it's not right!!!!!!!

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

axe haft of tengu slaying (not essential, but good)
superior rune of teamwork
sperior rune of brainpower