Why Running Must Stop

ComMan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

I was playing in the comp arena the other day, when I teamed what seemed like an average griefer called Whats a Newbian [Fang]. When he said in team chat, "I am level 1 and 90% of the way to my next level" and "My health is 1 of 0" I thought he was kidding. Sadly, he wasn't.

This guy must have had some guild-mates run him to Kryta and spent some gold to get superior runes from the Trader, becase he really was a level 1 with 0 hp. He just joined, died, and then either made fun of people or quit (and I assume joined again). I got him on my team for 2 out of 5 games in the arena before I just quit.

If anybody sees anyone with a [Fang] tag, please tell them I hate them all. And if you feel like running someone to Kryta for a few extra K, DON'T!

AceSnyp3r

AceSnyp3r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Work in Progress [WIP]

IIRC, you can buy superior runes in Post-Searing Ascalon...

ComMan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by AceSnyp3r
IIRC, you can buy superior runes in Post-Searing Ascalon...
I wasn't aware, doesn't change the fact that there's no reason for a level 1 to be in Lion's Arch, much less one with 0 HP.

AceSnyp3r

AceSnyp3r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Work in Progress [WIP]

Ah, my mistake, I didn't see you mention the comp. arena. I thought he was just messing around in the Asc. Arena. There is no reason for a level 1 to be in LA though, since there's really nothing they can do there at that level anyway.

Kha

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

Um, the problem here is that someone joined the arena to just joke around, not that someone was rushed to a place. You get people like this no matter what level. Just bad luck.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I've found it's annoying. Taking my girlfriend through GW, it's just me, R/Mo, her, Mo/Me and we have to fill in the gaps with people because I'd liked to get her some healing monk experience with real people.

Instead we find everyone trying to get rushed to places and people trying to offer services to rush people. Villainy of Galrath pissed me off as the team decided to rush all the way down to Witman's Folly from Black Curtain. That's not how you bloody do it >: You fight your way down into Whitmans folly, then fight your way through and then you're taught a lesson in pulling mobs and avoiding aggro right near the end. These guys just charged in and attacked everything in sight. Me and her just decided to sit back somewhere out of range and let them die.

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

I have the same response for the 90 billionth time as other threads which lead my thoughts through to the same conclusion:

I use henchmen or real life friends and that is all. Problem solved.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

how they heck do you have 1 out of 0 hp?

runners are why i rarely every play with people, aside from all the horror storys i hear (leavers, theives, etc), which actualy kinda kill the point of this game.. but at least im not playing with any lvl 1s

JoDiamonds

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOT
I have the same response for the 90 billionth time as other threads which lead my thoughts through to the same conclusion:

I use henchmen or real life friends and that is all. Problem solved.
That's fine. I'm glad it works out for you. Presumably, you didn't do any arena PvP until you reached the last major city of the game.

Most people don't have that option when playing random Arena team games.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

How would a level 1 get to Lions Arch with just 2 or 3 basic skills?btw I saw a level 10 at Sanctum Cay.

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoDiamonds
That's fine. I'm glad it works out for you. Presumably, you didn't do any arena PvP until you reached the last major city of the game.

Most people don't have that option when playing random Arena team games.
I have not, in fact, made it to the end city, nor ascended, but I have reached level 20.

I play random matches all the time. I simply make sure that my team is all people I personally know, and therefore it does not matter if the idiots on the opposing team leaves, it hurts them, not me.

And it could be said with brutal efficiency "it's a package deal, take it or leave it."

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

are you sure its not level 1 with 10 or even 20 health cuz 0 health seem impossible even for someone that is level 1?

Teufel Eldritch

Teufel Eldritch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Shadar Logoth

The Legendary Majestic 12

N/

I saw a level 7 monk in RoF the other day. Even partied with him. Did really well considering his low level. It was obvious he knew the mission...I'm sure he had completed it before. Didn't really have a prob with it, in fact I thought it was kinda cool, until I found out his only rez was a rez signet.

We failed the mission. True due somewhat in part of the low level monk, however most of the blame for the mission failure lays actually on other team members to tell ya the truth. Had a cpl of Warriors decide to go all gung ho when they shouldn't have. A higher level Monk may have saved the party/mission but all that shows is Monks are good at catching the mistakes of others. If the Warriros would have been more conscientous of the fact that the Monk could not heal as fast things would have ended differently. Of that I'm sure.

Kha

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
How would a level 1 get to Lions Arch with just 2 or 3 basic skills?btw I saw a level 10 at Sanctum Cay.
Higher levels ran him/her there.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

No it's not impossible. I've made a ranger char, bought some cheap ass superiors when I made it to post sear ascalon at level 2 and shoved them all on. That -75hp stacks up.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

well since you start with 100 health at lvl 1 and if you put on 2 major runes you have 0 health. You should be prevented from doing that.

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

I have seen level 3 w/n in Lion's arch selling sigils. Someone enlighten me

aphex twin

aphex twin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Xen of Onslaught [XoO]

Mo/W

sometimes in team chat i type stuff like My Health is 9999 of 9999. and ppl believe me......

or

I'm Wielding a Dustpan & Brush! :/

Wa$d

Wa$d

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

I run ppl to anyone for money, andits the only source of money i have, because of nerfing, if they want to stop running, bring in other ways of making money

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wa$d
I run ppl to anyone for money, andits the only source of money i have, because of nerfing, if they want to stop running, bring in other ways of making money
i hear dancing naked brings in a pretty penny... not

well running isnt to only way to make money, although they "nerfed" everything to near death it doesnt mean you can make money... heck i made 1K today (after about 4 hours in the crystal desert [sp?])... see its not impossible, everyone just thinks they need to bring in infinityK per hour...

Wa$d

Wa$d

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gaara
i hear dancing naked brings in a pretty penny... not

well running isnt to only way to make money, although they "nerfed" everything to near death it doesnt mean you can make money... heck i made 1K today (after about 4 hours in the crystal desert [sp?])... see its not impossible, everyone just thinks they need to bring in infinityK per hour...
Only 1k......sry but if your ok with that, im sry, i can make 1k in about 10 minutes and i think this is VERY low and this place i farm is for non-items like weapons, its all armor and merchent selling stuff, since all the good things in this game cost alot,
Examples: 15k armor, Fissure armor, 1 billion gold items, things that you need in this game salvage kits, Dye, ale , and other things of this nature.

Watersong

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I make 1k in 6 minutes.

Wa$d

Wa$d

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Watersong
I make 1k in 6 minutes.
and where do you farm......jk dont say it on a open forum.....if you would PM me i wouldnt complain

Newbian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

I forget.

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by ComMan
I was playing in the comp arena the other day, when I teamed what seemed like an average griefer called Whats a Newbian [Fang]. When he said in team chat, "I am level 1 and 90% of the way to my next level" and "My health is 1 of 0" I thought he was kidding. Sadly, he wasn't.

This guy must have had some guild-mates run him to Kryta and spent some gold to get superior runes from the Trader, becase he really was a level 1 with 0 hp. He just joined, died, and then either made fun of people or quit (and I assume joined again). I got him on my team for 2 out of 5 games in the arena before I just quit.

If anybody sees anyone with a [Fang] tag, please tell them I hate them all. And if you feel like running someone to Kryta for a few extra K, DON'T!
king of the world

Too bad I can't go to Underworld anymore

Watersong

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Laugh Out Loud!

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

This is more of an issue of Random Arenas being flat out unbalanced and well...random.

Ignotus

Ignotus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Parliament of Rooks

W/Mo

i thought you had to be lvl 3 to leave presearing? guess not.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignotus
i thought you had to be lvl 3 to leave presearing? guess not.
Nope. I've left at 2 before and seen a few people at Droknar's Forge at level 1.

I even have a screen of it if you check out the Adeventures Of Orian Mage Henthmen.

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignotus
i thought you had to be lvl 3 to leave presearing? guess not.
you simply have to do the secondary profession quest & the prerequisite quests before that. you can easily leave presear on level 1 with a little bit more than 1000 xp left to level 2. getting to the ring of fire on level 1 on the other hand is a little bit harder.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

I've also seen lvl 1 (and yes they are lvl 1) late in the game. It may be remotely possible to get to Lions Arch etc at lvl 1, if you have teammates running you there and taking great care not to finish any missions or killing any monsters, but basically you have to go out of your way to avoid levelling, and going out of the way to do anything probably isn't in the nature of these guys. So... this will get this post deleted, but IMO they're using a hack, or hacked accounts.

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I've also seen lvl 1 (and yes they are lvl 1) late in the game. It may be remotely possible to get to Lions Arch etc at lvl 1, if you have teammates running you there and taking great care not to finish any missions or killing any monsters, but basically you have to go out of your way to avoid levelling, and going out of the way to do anything probably isn't in the nature of these guys. So... this will get this post deleted, but IMO they're using a hack, or hacked accounts.
it's more than remotely possible to get a level 1 anywhere before the ring of fire. all you have to do is explore/kill your way to different towns with the help of guildmates. wait, how do you clear maps without leveling up? hmmm i wonder. have the level one die before you kill anything. sounds like hacks to me.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheel
it's more than remotely possible to get a level 1 anywhere before the ring of fire. --- sounds like hacks to me.
Indecision much?
Anyway, yeah it's possible, but you really have to plan for it, not do any quests to get skills, and everyone in the team has to only run and always avoid killing anything. Could be an interesting project for someone with a really bored guild, but there's a bit too many of them now for me to buy that explanation.

Plus, what would be the point of rushing someone to late in the game at lvl 1? He'd have no skills and wouldn't have unlocked anything for PvP.

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

The point is to get the best armor, then go back to Ascalon and go through the quest (or more likely fight with the best armor on.. there should be an armor filter as well as a level filter on the ascalon arena).

I don't see the point to complaining about it though... I don't see how it hurts me that people do this.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

It doesn't really hurt anyone but I think the conundrum is interesting to people. How -do- you get to the Ring of Fire at level 1? I can't imagine...

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
Nope. I've left at 2 before and seen a few people at Droknar's Forge at level 1.

I even have a screen of it if you check out the Adeventures Of Orian Mage Henthmen.
It used to be like that. I think they changed it really soon after release. Because I tried taking my first rpg char through before level 3 (during the early access) and it said you had to be level 3. Then my second char was allowed though at level 2 IIRC.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

My first character had to be level 3. I left at level 4. My 2nd character is still in presear at lvl 9. My 3rd is at LA @ lvl 16.

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

Still didn't make level 2, huh?

Too bad someone can't run you there.

:S

Newbian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

I forget.

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
I've also seen lvl 1 (and yes they are lvl 1) late in the game. It may be remotely possible to get to Lions Arch etc at lvl 1, if you have teammates running you there and taking great care not to finish any missions or killing any monsters, but basically you have to go out of your way to avoid levelling, and going out of the way to do anything probably isn't in the nature of these guys. So... this will get this post deleted, but IMO they're using a hack, or hacked accounts.
You don't recieve XP when you are dead, except for when your team wins PvP matches now, not sure how this works with the latest updates as far as PvE goes. Going and getting yourself killed as quickly as possible or staying out of range of XP is an easy way to get far without accumilating any XP. I was out of of pre searing with 750xp, you may be able to do it with less, and any xp gained other than that was by mistake when doing PvP in the Yak's Bend arena. It was a wonderful side project born of boredom and recieved a great deal of laughs(and groans). Seeing as I can no longer get that picture taken at Grenth's temple there was little else to do with the character than delete them. I encourage people to try and get a full party to team arenas in Droknor's Forge. If you are getting tired of the game and want a somewhat challenging project try for this with your guild, the personal satisfaction you get is quite the reward for all your work(or lack there of). Some groups were nice enough to let me hitch hike and run me to areas. It was a lot of fun and I regret nothing except for I wish I would have done more with the character. Full fissure armor would have been the pinnacle.

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
btw I saw a level 10 at Sanctum Cay.
I've been a level 11 at Sanctum Cay. You don't need to be rushed by anyone to do that. In fact, it's usually one of the very first map points I pick up after coming across the Shiverpeaks. LA->Bergen Hot Springs->Temple of the Ages->Fisherman's Haven->Sanctum Cay. However, I don't generally do that mission until I've gone and collected all the other map points to the west.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

How do you make your way to Fisherman's haven from Temple?

It is quite a lot of zones...