Just setting something strait...

...There is no higher zealous mod than 1:1. People say "Nice bow, but bad zealous mod" when i'm trying to sell. Who has actually, honestly seen a 3:1 zealous weapon? SO STOP SAYING THEY EXIST! I have unlocked many 1:1 upgrades, and the priest gives me no option to unlock any type of zealous thing above 1:1(the ones I haven't unlocked) and no option for a 3:1 for the ones I have.

I REALLY had to get that off my chest.

no, zealous is 1:1 and you wont see one higher. ther trying to make you think your weapon is not that good and sell it cheaper, in other words there trying to rip you off.

iether that, or there stupid and trying to sound l33t :P

It may happen in the future, but not now! there are too many Elite components to find as is at this moment, and adding a (2-5):1 Zealous would currently collapse the market of selling stuff

So either they're ripping you off, using a bot (by then they should be reported) or complete n00bs who can't play the game properly, as Paladin Adoni says

I really don't think zealous is worth it at all. You're getting minus one energy regen and replaced with +1 energy every time you hit, which iirc is every two seconds. Now if I'm right, each 1 arrow of regen is 1 per second. You're giving up basically 3 energy regen per second for 2 energy regen per second, plus one energy per hit every 2 seconds, which is about 2.5 regen or less.

I can see it working nicely on a sword as they attack pretty quickly, but something slow like a bow, hammer or truncheon it's pretty worthless and is actually a hinderance.

One energy regen arrow is 0.33 energy per second. So a warrior with a zealous weapon should get more energy back that way if he's constantly hitting. It's not as good for rangers though as they don't hit that often.

What about a warrior with Cyclone Axe? In theory it'd be a nice energy-recharger if you could hit enough targets. Never tried it though.

Debatable, it all depends on the character's build. In PvP, I use Frenzy on my archer so his attack speed is almost comparable to that of a swordsman. In that situation, it seems daft to not use a Zealous bowstring.

how about tiger's furry + barrage? you'd be crazy not to use zealous.

I have been using a zealous axe for a long time now. coupled with bonetti's defense for those emergency situations I NEVER have energy issues.

I always thought that 1 arrow was 1 energy per second but as i looked at it some more i think that it takes two arrows of regen for 1 energy per second regen. I may be wrong but w/ the blind eye that seems to be the way the regen goes...oh and i use zealous on every melee weapon i have because it seems to work well especially since i use berserkers stance, so even w/ a hammer it seems to fill my energy up much quicker than 2 regen arrows would.

You're forgetting this is Grind Wars. And no there aren't too many things to unlock as most of them are crap. Seriously Sundering is a joke, so is poisoner's, cruel etc... The only strings that are worth something are Zealous, Vampiric and the elemental ones. Maybe, and I say maybe, Poisoner's if you have an 8 man build that would specifically require it

That's not at all why it's not like that. 2-5:1 Zealous would completly unbalance the game mechanics. You could be a monk and have a 5:1 zealous bow for energy management. Say you're a ranger, you could drop your expertise down to like 6 and abuse combos that you couldn't normally because of energy. That would just be insane. Shoot 6 times to completely refill your energy bar. And why would it collapse the market ?

Exactly, you're wrong. 1 pip of energy is 1/3 energy regen per second. A ranger on normal pips will regen 1 per second and a monk/caster 1.33 per second. For a warrior or a ranger using a shortbow it's totally worth it. See this link for item refire rates and do the math yourself. You'll see Zealous is just awesome.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ies-id1275.php

I'll agree for some of what is posted. It's a must on any sword, axe or shortbow. Hammers I wouldn't recommend. You can't have a zealous upgrade on wands or staves or else there would be a game inbalance.

No, do this simple test and you'll easily see. Use a monk and bring boon. You'll be on 3 pips. You'll regen exactly 1 energy per second since 3*(1/3)=1. It's harder to see with 4 pips cause the 1.33 isn't noticable over a short period of time. Now use a warrior and bring strength of honor. You'll be on one pip and will regen 1*(1/3)=0.3333 per second. I know the pip system isn't intuitive but that's how it works to keep the game balanced.

Oh and since there seems to be a misunderstanding on pips I'll post how they work. Health pips are 2 per second. So a 7 pip Heal Breeze will heal for 14hp per second. You can't go over 10 pips of regen or degen.

Energy is also quite special in the sense that you can go in negative energy. Say you have a wand and a focus that both give you a 10 energy bonus total. You lose all your energy and put them away. You'll effectively be at -10 energy. You won't see it as -10 but if you look closely your energy is going to stay at the 0 marker for a long time (the time it takes to come back from -10 to 0).

Barrage is only 5 energy... with Expertise cranked up it's like 2 energy... why would you even need zealous?

Just a Q?, not a flame...

doesn't barrage remove all stances? I don't think you can stack tigers fury and barrage.

Yes, it does... my dreams of barraging ignited arrows sparked out in a hurry.

Not stances, preparations.

It doesnt remove stances. I always use barrage with an enchantment and a stance

knowing that makes my (Guild Wars) life better....I've been reluctant to use barrage because I was under the impression it removes all stances/preperations....I will be using barrage more often now.

time to find a zealous bow string for my halfmoon =D

zealots is just fine as 1:1 depending on your skills.

Barrage only affects preperations, so you can't barrage poisoned arrows, but you can tigers fury your barrage quite well

So you could combine that with an interesting choice of spirits too then to good effect...

Thanks for the pip info . I am often too lazy to figure these mathematical things out cuz i would rather be playing the game or being a forum junky where peeps figure that stuff out for you .