23 Apr 2005 at 03:58 - 14
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Mesmer is the worst of the Ranger subclasses for PvE. Yes, that includes Warrior, which at least has stuff like Shields Up! and Watch Yourself! as defense.
Ensign said that... and he is an experienced player... i think lol
23 Apr 2005 at 06:36 - 15
Yeah, I said that - I'm really not too fond of the Ranger/Mesmer at all for PvE. PvP? Like it a good deal better there, if you simply want to devote a single character to caster hunting. It's a damn good character for soloing Monks.
But for PvE? Doesn't really add much that other classes don't do better, especially at higher levels. I can see loving Conjure Phantasm in the part of the game where Conjure Phantasm is good, and some energy management would be nice before Expertise starts to kick in at level 16 or so - but at high level? I guess it's kinda amusing because enemies cast through Backfire, but I wouldn't get excited about that at the low levels you can afford on a Ranger - plus cast time, plus energy...Sympathetic Visage? Meh. Call me unimpressed. Certainly not impressed enough to give up a Monk, Necromancer, or Elementalist secondary.
Tricks only go so far - when you're fighting bots there's an awful lot to be said for just smashing face.
Peace,
-CxE
23 Apr 2005 at 06:43 - 16
For PvP, I found the Mesmer secondary an excellant combination. You could create a hell full of misery for caster opponents very effectively.
For PvE, I'd rather go with "pure" ranger and then rearrange my build later for PvP. There's not really much you can do because most NPC opponents don't use a whole lot of spells. They just run up and beat the crap out of you. Conjure Phantasm is good for a while, but then it just becomes a waist of energy... I can't really think of anything useful and efficient for dealing damage on mobs in PvE.
But again, it's great for PvP. And my favorite combination.
23 Apr 2005 at 14:02 - 17
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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue
For PvP, I found the Mesmer secondary an excellant combination. You could create a hell full of misery for caster opponents very effectively.
For PvE, I'd rather go with "pure" ranger and then rearrange my build later for PvP. There's not really much you can do because most NPC opponents don't use a whole lot of spells. They just run up and beat the crap out of you. Conjure Phantasm is good for a while, but then it just becomes a waist of energy... I can't really think of anything useful and efficient for dealing damage on mobs in PvE.
But again, it's great for PvP. And my favorite combination.
well i havent tried it before, but barrage+tiger strike/other arrow boostin spell looks like a good combo for multi-creature pve
23 Apr 2005 at 17:22 - 18
Barrage, with and without Tiger's Fury, is indeed incredibly effective in PvE where you'll find a lot of tight packs. That's a pure Ranger combination, though - secondary is irrelevant. If you really want to maximize your damage this way, grab an Elementalist secondary for Conjure Element to add damage to each arrow, or run with a smiting Monk and do the same thing.
Peace,
-CxE
23 Apr 2005 at 18:14 - 19
Scarface, you asked for another build for the Rng/Mes here is one I've put together.
Ranger / Mesmer
Barrage [elite]
Debilitating Shot
Distracting Shot
Dual Shot
Pin Down
Favorable Winds
Backfire
Energy Burn
Expertise: 13 (11+2)
Marksmanship: 12 (10+2)
Domination: 10
Runes: Minor Rune of Expertise (+1 Expertise)
Major Rune of Marksmanship (+2 Marksmanship)
Mask: Hunter’s Mask (+1 Expertise)
Bow: Shortbow / Halfmoon “Zealous bow strings”
Secondary Bow: Longbow / Flatbow
Armor: Hunter’s Set
23 Apr 2005 at 18:34 - 20
I ran a Ranger/Mesmer for a while, it's ill. Use Inspiration.
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