I was wondering if those who had tried secondary class switching. Specifically whether you keep skills if yo switch back and forth or if that is even allowed.
if this is posted somewhere or i missed something just delete it I tried searching and came up blank.
To anyone who made ascension
tektonik
Spooky
Ascension wasn't available in any of the Beta weekends, so the only people who will have done it are Alpha testers that can't comment.
I can, however, answer your other question: when a character unlocks a skill, that skill will always be available to them so long as they exist. So if you take Monk subclass and learn all its skills, then take a Warrior subclass and decide that it is awful, you can switch back over to Monk, and those skills that you had unlocked previously will still be there.
I can, however, answer your other question: when a character unlocks a skill, that skill will always be available to them so long as they exist. So if you take Monk subclass and learn all its skills, then take a Warrior subclass and decide that it is awful, you can switch back over to Monk, and those skills that you had unlocked previously will still be there.
SisterMercy
But while you've switched to the Warrior subclass, the skills from the Monk subclass you've abandoned will not be available to you, IIRC.
Do you get back the skill points you'd spent on the Monk skills in this case?
Do you get back the skill points you'd spent on the Monk skills in this case?
Xellos
I have a question, where do you switch secondary classes after the tutorial?
Manderlock
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But while you've switched to the Warrior subclass, the skills from the Monk subclass you've abandoned will not be available to you, IIRC.
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Once youve unlocked a skill it is your to use when ever you want. What spooky meant is that you can switch your skills back, you dont have switch back to a monk secondary.
Edit: On second thought, im not to confident in what i said, as the skills you can pick from are from you primary and secondary. They might put them up with the rez sig and such though.
Does anyone know for shure?
Xellos
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Once youve unlocked a skill it is your to use when ever you want. What spooky meant is that you can switch your skills back, you dont have switch back to a monk secondary.
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Manderlock
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Originally Posted by Xellos
Your wording is confusing, I got the impression that you could use Strength of Honour as a War/Ele. Imagine that, ugh :P overpowered!
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Anet *did* say that a character will have the oppertunity to get all of the skills for all classes. like i said in my edit im not as confident as when i first posted though.
Darkmane
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Anet *did* say that a character will have the oppertunity to get all of the skills for all classes. like i said in my edit im not as confident as when i first posted though.
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Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Darkmane
I seem to remember something like that being posted.
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you can wind up with every skill in the game unlocked and available for you
The bottom line is that you could have a primary character who has experimented with all five available secondary professions. That character will likely have good stock of skills in each of those lines. In fact, that character could have every skill in each of the five available secondaries. The character then, in ways not yet to be revealed, will be able to shift to a different secondary and take advantage of a long history of roleplaying character development.
Vermilion Okeanos
getting all those skill points are pretty rough through out the BWE... until the 5000 exp quest are up... but even that, it is not exactly a fast ride @_@
There are still rewards for playing long PvE... instead of levels, u get skill points.
Now I just wonder... what are the cost for this... change sub-class thing.
There are still rewards for playing long PvE... instead of levels, u get skill points.
Now I just wonder... what are the cost for this... change sub-class thing.
Spooky
Let me try and explain this with less confusion, because there's two different aspects to unlocking skills:
When a character learns a skill, that skill becomes permanently unlocked for your account, so that any PvP character you create will automatically have the option to use it. This is the 'global' aspect of skill unlocking. Think of it as sticking things into a bank that you can draw out later for use. However, as with any character, you can only use the skills dictated by that character's two professions.
Now, for individual character learning - Yes, you can learn all of the skills in game, and they will be stored on that character - but the ones that are currently available to you are based on your current Primary and Secondary subclasses. When you switch your subclass, all of the skills you had for it previously will come back. You're not 'losing' skills this way, it is instead that the ones in professions you don't currently have are not displayed. This way, we don't have prism-esque characters running around with skills from all six professions at once.
When a character learns a skill, that skill becomes permanently unlocked for your account, so that any PvP character you create will automatically have the option to use it. This is the 'global' aspect of skill unlocking. Think of it as sticking things into a bank that you can draw out later for use. However, as with any character, you can only use the skills dictated by that character's two professions.
Now, for individual character learning - Yes, you can learn all of the skills in game, and they will be stored on that character - but the ones that are currently available to you are based on your current Primary and Secondary subclasses. When you switch your subclass, all of the skills you had for it previously will come back. You're not 'losing' skills this way, it is instead that the ones in professions you don't currently have are not displayed. This way, we don't have prism-esque characters running around with skills from all six professions at once.
snipes
ONce you unlock a skill it will always be there even if you delete the char.
Question though is whether if you change your subclass to something will you gain all skills of that subclass that you had unlocked previously, even with another char? I think so... but its always best for someone whos tested it to say yes.
Question though is whether if you change your subclass to something will you gain all skills of that subclass that you had unlocked previously, even with another char? I think so... but its always best for someone whos tested it to say yes.
tektonik
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Let me try and explain this with less confusion, because there's two different aspects to unlocking skills:
When a character learns a skill, that skill becomes permanently unlocked for your account, so that any PvP character you create will automatically have the option to use it. This is the 'global' aspect of skill unlocking. Think of it as sticking things into a bank that you can draw out later for use. However, as with any character, you can only use the skills dictated by that character's two professions. Now, for individual character learning - Yes, you can learn all of the skills in game, and they will be stored on that character - but the ones that are currently available to you are based on your current Primary and Secondary subclasses. When you switch your subclass, all of the skills you had for it previously will come back. You're not 'losing' skills this way, it is instead that the ones in professions you don't currently have are not displayed. This way, we don't have prism-esque characters running around with skills from all six professions at once. |
freeb0rn
Do you know if there is/will be the possiblity to store character "builds" ?
Switching professions etc and having to rearrange would be quite the pain!
Also, how many times can we switch secondary profession? Just once after ascension or can we switch as many times as we want, but not as often as we want? For example, is there some enforced time lapse between profession changes?.
Switching professions etc and having to rearrange would be quite the pain!
Also, how many times can we switch secondary profession? Just once after ascension or can we switch as many times as we want, but not as often as we want? For example, is there some enforced time lapse between profession changes?.
sama
Does switching secondary involve the wondering monk?
refunds points come every 250 exp or about 14 pvp kills. storing character builds have been suggested, but no comments back from anet.
refunds points come every 250 exp or about 14 pvp kills. storing character builds have been suggested, but no comments back from anet.
Freyas
You will have the ability to change your secondary profession multiple times- as many times as you want to. The process that you have to go through in order to change your secondary profession hasn't been revealed yet, so I can't comment on that- however, you could change between Mo/W and Mo/Me 50 times if you felt like it.
Your RP character will only have access to the skills that you've acquired on that character, so if you unlock mesmer skills with one character and then change your secondary to a mesmer on a different character, you will not have access to those mesmer skills that you unlocked- you'll have to get them on your second character as well. Unlocking only applies for PvP characters. However, if you have a PvP character that is a mesmer, and you unlock new mesmer skills with one of your RP characters, your PvP character will have access to those skills.
When you change secondary professions, skill points are not refunded- your character still has those skills. Fortunately, there have been lots and lots of skill quests added post-searing, so you won't have to spend nearly so many skill points on getting the skills that you want.
Your RP character will only have access to the skills that you've acquired on that character, so if you unlock mesmer skills with one character and then change your secondary to a mesmer on a different character, you will not have access to those mesmer skills that you unlocked- you'll have to get them on your second character as well. Unlocking only applies for PvP characters. However, if you have a PvP character that is a mesmer, and you unlock new mesmer skills with one of your RP characters, your PvP character will have access to those skills.
When you change secondary professions, skill points are not refunded- your character still has those skills. Fortunately, there have been lots and lots of skill quests added post-searing, so you won't have to spend nearly so many skill points on getting the skills that you want.
Dreamsmith
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Does switching secondary involve the wondering monk?
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Ensign
Can a character do a skill quest of a class he currently does not have - and complete it, blocking off those 'free skills' permanently?
Or are quests with skill rewards class specific, so that if you switch secondaries you'll simply have a bunch of quests to go back and do?
Peace,
-CxE
Or are quests with skill rewards class specific, so that if you switch secondaries you'll simply have a bunch of quests to go back and do?
Peace,
-CxE
Manderlock
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Can a character do a skill quest of a class he currently does not have - and complete it, blocking off those 'free skills' permanently?
Or are quests with skill rewards class specific, so that if you switch secondaries you'll simply have a bunch of quests to go back and do? Peace, -CxE |
Lews
I feel stupid.
I've been following this for over a year now, and can't remember what Ascension is.
I've been following this for over a year now, and can't remember what Ascension is.
Scaphism
Ascension is Arena Net's term for reaching level 20. I don't know if there is something else you must do once you get to level 20, but that's at least the minimum requirement.
Harley
Many have written:
you can wind up with every skill in the game unlocked and available for you
(with a single character)
Some clarification please - If you're a Primary Monk for example, I was under the impression that skills in the other Primary professions would be unavailable
So a Primary Monk would not be able to unlock or use
Warrior - Strength skills
Mesmer - Fast Casting
Elementalist - Energy Storage
Necro - Soul Reaping
Ranger - Expertise
You will need a Primary X to open Primary X skills
So can a Primary Monk use /open other professions primary skills??
you can wind up with every skill in the game unlocked and available for you
(with a single character)
Some clarification please - If you're a Primary Monk for example, I was under the impression that skills in the other Primary professions would be unavailable
So a Primary Monk would not be able to unlock or use
Warrior - Strength skills
Mesmer - Fast Casting
Elementalist - Energy Storage
Necro - Soul Reaping
Ranger - Expertise
You will need a Primary X to open Primary X skills
So can a Primary Monk use /open other professions primary skills??
funbun
What is Acension?
joecrab
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What is Acension?
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So can a Primary Monk use /open other professions primary skills??
i hope not.
is this there way of not making you start from scratch to get all the skills for you pvp char? because you could travel to buy your skills for all classes once you reach lvl 20 in a day (the ones you want for pvp anyway
Viktor
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Fortunately, there have been lots and lots of skill quests added post-searing, so you won't have to spend nearly so many skill points on getting the skills that you want.
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So can a Primary Monk use /open other professions primary skills??
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Scaphism
A primary warrior/secondary monk can learn Divine Favor skills, but he'll never be able to raise his Divine Favor attribute.
The same applies to any other profession combination. Viktor has it right- you can learn the skills from a sub-professions Primary attribute, but you'll never be able to raise them to a usable level.
The same applies to any other profession combination. Viktor has it right- you can learn the skills from a sub-professions Primary attribute, but you'll never be able to raise them to a usable level.
Freyas
Many skill-giving quests are profession-specific, so you'll be able to go back and complete ones for your new secondary profession after changing professions to get the skill rewards. However, some quests give skills based on your professions at the time: for example, "Helping the People of Ascalon" from Ambassador Zain rewards two skills- one for each of your professions at the time. I did it with an N/Mo and got vile touch and mending- I'd assume there's one skill for each class that it will reward, and you'll get the skills for your primary and secondary class at the time you complete the quest. I don't believe these quests will be repeatable, so there might be some skills that you'll have to either spend the skill points/gold on, or else create a new character for.
I know at least as of this last BWE, many of the skills available from the AC skill trader were available via skill quests- my recommendation would probably be to buy as few skills from the trainers as you can until you can find out which skills can be gained via quests.
I know at least as of this last BWE, many of the skills available from the AC skill trader were available via skill quests- my recommendation would probably be to buy as few skills from the trainers as you can until you can find out which skills can be gained via quests.
Genosha
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Originally Posted by Spooky
Let me try and explain this with less confusion, because there's two different aspects to unlocking skills:
When a character learns a skill, that skill becomes permanently unlocked for your account, so that any PvP character you create will automatically have the option to use it. This is the 'global' aspect of skill unlocking. Think of it as sticking things into a bank that you can draw out later for use. However, as with any character, you can only use the skills dictated by that character's two professions. Now, for individual character learning - Yes, you can learn all of the skills in game, and they will be stored on that character - but the ones that are currently available to you are based on your current Primary and Secondary subclasses. When you switch your subclass, all of the skills you had for it previously will come back. You're not 'losing' skills this way, it is instead that the ones in professions you don't currently have are not displayed. This way, we don't have prism-esque characters running around with skills from all six professions at once. |
Nishio
You're asking if you'll regain skill points to reinvest in skills for your new subclass?
If so, I would guess no because it means you have potential access to those skills in the future when you switch back to that subclass.
If you want to save on skill points though, you can nab the free skills that are offered outside of Pre-searing Ascalon City and Yak's Bend before buying new skills. It'd be a heck of a wait though.
If so, I would guess no because it means you have potential access to those skills in the future when you switch back to that subclass.
If you want to save on skill points though, you can nab the free skills that are offered outside of Pre-searing Ascalon City and Yak's Bend before buying new skills. It'd be a heck of a wait though.