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katalyst

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

On Earth(i hope)

W/Mo

19 Jul 2005 at 22:05 - 1

When im trying to attempt a griffion run i execute skills but most of the times i die when im near 400-500 hp.

For instance:
Im excutuing skills and all of a sudden the DP pops up and my hp bar just jumps from 500 to 0, i even have healing hands on me and all the enchants from the regular build.

Im just wondering has this happened to anyone else or is it just me.

Mugon M. Musashi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

France (Paris)

BUG

Mo/W

19 Jul 2005 at 22:10 - 2

check out if there isn't any rockshot devourer near you
they interrupt your skills

katalyst

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

On Earth(i hope)

W/Mo

19 Jul 2005 at 22:13 - 3

I do, and its always clear of rockshots. I'm just pretty aggrivated on 10 failed runs becuase of this incident.

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

19 Jul 2005 at 22:17 - 4

Hm.

-do you see damage numbers pop up above your head?
-what is your skillset?
-does this happen at the same location every time?
-do you have lag problems in other areas?

Mugon M. Musashi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

France (Paris)

BUG

Mo/W

19 Jul 2005 at 22:17 - 5

then have you had any lag lately ?
I've been killed several times because of that

katalyst

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

On Earth(i hope)

W/Mo

19 Jul 2005 at 22:41 - 6

Yeah, it might be the lag. I'll try again later

hydrak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

19 Jul 2005 at 23:52 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by katalyst

When im trying to attempt a griffion run i execute skills but most of the times i die when im near 400-500 hp.

For instance:
Im excutuing skills and all of a sudden the DP pops up and my hp bar just jumps from 500 to 0, i even have healing hands on me and all the enchants from the regular build.

Im just wondering has this happened to anyone else or is it just me.

Your stance might have run out. No stance + griffins' final thrusts = quick death.

noblepaladin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

19 Jul 2005 at 23:58 - 8

Yeah, often the moment you go below 1/2 health final thrust will kill you when you. Healing hands heals you about 17hp per hit (or at least with my attribute distribution) but final thrust will hit for well over 60 if you are under half health and with 10 griffons on you, you will die almost instantly.

The Hated

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

20 Jul 2005 at 00:02 - 9

LEAVE THE POOR GIFFIONS ALONE, OR AT LEAST ALONE WITH US PROS lol!

hydrak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

20 Jul 2005 at 00:05 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by noblepaladin

Yeah, often the moment you go below 1/2 health final thrust will kill you when you. Healing hands heals you about 17hp per hit (or at least with my attribute distribution) but final thrust will hit for well over 60 if you are under half health and with 10 griffons on you, you will die almost instantly.

Healing hands only save you from normal hits. You need stances to deal with final thrusts.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

20 Jul 2005 at 00:10 - 11

Griffons should only be tackled by good monks

Who's that guy from the other day? I really loved his video!

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

20 Jul 2005 at 00:14 - 12

Do you have a stance or weapon/mod, whatever, that boosts your health up at a certain moment? You may die if this criteria is removed and you haven't recovered your health, therefore dropping it back below zero.

Like health +25 while in a stance maybe....takes a hit...stance ends...health goes POP! lol.

Saphic The Unclean

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/E

20 Jul 2005 at 00:15 - 13

i destroy griffon mobs with a n/m smiter build i made. works like a charm. your prob sounds like lag.

Van the Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

In Yak's Bend like always...

W/

20 Jul 2005 at 00:24 - 14

when u are less than 50% health 20 things using final thrust on you will kill you

Uzul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arctic Tundra

Pints N Quarts [PsQs]

20 Jul 2005 at 00:26 - 15

sometimes they all use final thrust at once... thus giving you 8-12 critical hits at the same time - no healing hands will help you there... thats why i am using shield of judgement

since most people enjoy some action: http://home.versanet.de/~mdgeist/dl_..._farming01.avi
[now working, and fast too]

i am pretty slow on killing the griffons there... >_<

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

20 Jul 2005 at 00:30 - 16

Or maybe you're artificially raising your hp using endure/defy pain or some other spell that gives + to hp. Once it ends, it subtracts whatever it originally gave you, from your current hp. That might explain the sudden drop.

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

20 Jul 2005 at 01:08 - 17

Just make a monk, they're the best for farming.

katalyst

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

On Earth(i hope)

W/Mo

20 Jul 2005 at 03:54 - 18

The other thing is how i use bonnetti's and it doesn't block "75%" more like "50%" but maybe its just me, i've gotten them down with my timing on the lag, i guess im getting use to the lag spikes here and there.

edit: oh and uzul i can't view your video

Borealis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Black Rose Gaming

Mo/W

20 Jul 2005 at 04:09 - 19

Mark of Protection > all

elitey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

20 Jul 2005 at 05:03 - 20

they should have just put in a mesmer type monster there just like they did with the arcanist in snake dance...
btw, hunting griffons in desert is kinda lame and too easy...
try do the same in snake dance..

Mitsu Bishi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Austria

Need for Seed [SeeD]

Mo/Me

20 Jul 2005 at 06:27 - 21

Much the same but there are fewer of them and more dispersed. But it pretty much works the same way, they only seem to drop worse.

Uzul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arctic Tundra

Pints N Quarts [PsQs]

20 Jul 2005 at 08:58 - 22

i used to hunt in snake dance until it's been nerfed to a point where it got pretty much useless to fight the blessed ones. (which aren't not that much harder to kill, but drops suck hard now)
the challenge with the desert ones is to take on 12 of them as a squishee-monk and survive it. (best with 3-6 minos in your back when rushing in

)

i personally hate the desert ^^ there is only one reason to go there: kill griffons for some quick cash refill - after 3-4 runs i am getting sick of the burning sun, the endless dunes and the darn devourers anyway.

@katalyst: it's divx pro encoded... normal divx should play it... if there are still probs send me a pm and i can up some other version for you.

looking forward to my new webspace ^^

Mugon M. Musashi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

France (Paris)

BUG

Mo/W

20 Jul 2005 at 09:31 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by katalyst

The other thing is how i use bonnetti's and it doesn't block "75%" more like "50%" but maybe its just me

I've experienced the same
the 75% avoiding from gladiator defense is much better than the 75% avoiding from bonetti
strange isn't it ?

and I know it wasn't just bad luck because it was during griffon farming
which means I've done the same thing like 200 times and the results are the same
glad defense > bonetti defense (and it shoudn't)

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

20 Jul 2005 at 10:33 - 24

I alternate Gladiators defence and Bonettis defence. Both seem to work equally well for me, and when one's used up the other's charged up and ready to go.

I do most of my damage through monk PBAoE spells, and Gladiators. My sword skill is something like 2 on my farming build, it's only there to gain adrenalin and energy (I've got a zealous blade). When health runs low I run a Healing Breeze or two during Gladiators defence.

I have little problem taking on two groups as long as no ¤#!""#"@ devourers turn up without me noticing. I keep Sprint just to outrun those damn devourers (you can't outrun griffins even with sprint - big hint for collecting them without also collecting devourers). I don't do more than two groups at a time, because of the risk of getting Minotaur adds. I don't think I could handle more than one minotaur group + 2 griffin groups.

It's not the perfect build, but it works for me.
Of course, I have to remember clicking my stances as soon as they charge, and to attack with the sword when a griffin goes down to keep the adrenaline building.

JackOften

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

20 Jul 2005 at 10:37 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitey

they should have just put in a mesmer type monster there just like they did with the arcanist in snake dance...
btw, hunting griffons in desert is kinda lame and too easy...
try do the same in snake dance..

Which is just as easy / easier without rockshots.

Lord SuperVillain

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Terminators

W/Mo

20 Jul 2005 at 13:34 - 26

Sometimes my char just erm. Falls and dies for no reason

. Even if thers no monsters. Could be this.

elitey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

20 Jul 2005 at 14:15 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackOften

Which is just as easy / easier without rockshots.

er, with shadow knocking u down and arcanists shattering ur enchantment?

katalyst

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

On Earth(i hope)

W/Mo

20 Jul 2005 at 16:16 - 28

question: isn't glad's defense an elite skill?

hydrak

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

20 Jul 2005 at 18:02 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackOften

Which is just as easy / easier without rockshots.

Try to take on 10 blessed griffins at the same time, and repost here on how easy it is. Better yet, capture a video to prove it.