Today while I was hunting in a UW group as usual, people were chatting about how hard it was getting shards/ectos and the like. Amongst the group were most typical replys about getting money and shards.. yet one stood out in an alarming way.
One member of the group boasted he had bought out the Rare Material Merchant of all Shards and Ectos, and that he had Bots(yes more than one) farming/camping the vendor even as we spoke. His bots would buy any shards and ectos sold to the Vendors(which he could buy for 2-3k a shard and 3-6k a ecto) and sell them afterwards for 3.5 per shard and 10k ectos. His intentions it seemed was to give people no other choice but to buy them from him. How successful he is, he would not comment on it. But the fact that hes doing it makes me thinks hes doing pretty well.
To a certain point it is a first come first serve when it comes to buying things, but this just seems a bit wrong to me.
Comments?
New Bots/Farming...??
Dudededu
BurningPants
Nothing a nice banning can't take care of...if he is actually doing it.
Dumachum
And how exactly do you "catch" a bot when they dont say anything or move?
AceSnyp3r
So that's where all those shards and ectos went...
Nightsorrow
Did you take his name down? And screenshot where he boasted to using bots? The use of Bots is banned by the EULA as far as I know, so if you make ANet aware of him, he will most likely be banned.
Using bots NEVER pays off.
Concerning him buying out the market ... if he brought ALL stock from the vendor, then as soon as 1 was sold, the price for that would be sky high would it not? On the Euro servers, Ecto is ~10plat per piece and thats IN stock - with only 1 stock, the price would be too much for 1 person to be able to drain the market and still make a profit from them - besides, not everyone sells to vendors.
Using bots NEVER pays off.
Concerning him buying out the market ... if he brought ALL stock from the vendor, then as soon as 1 was sold, the price for that would be sky high would it not? On the Euro servers, Ecto is ~10plat per piece and thats IN stock - with only 1 stock, the price would be too much for 1 person to be able to drain the market and still make a profit from them - besides, not everyone sells to vendors.
d4nowar
If you took a screenshot of him bragging, you could send it to anet and they would probably take action.
Bingley Joe
I was wondering when some douchebag would figure that one out. I hope you sent screen-shots and a report off to ANet.
Half expecting to see groups of mobs guarding the traders now.. ;P
Half expecting to see groups of mobs guarding the traders now.. ;P
Dudededu
Yes I did take some screen shots... and did report it like 5 minutes ago.
I even have screen shots of his bots too. He went so far as to say the name of one of his bots and say what district/town it was in(in a very "matter of fact" way), so I went to see myself. And true enough, the bot was there besides the Rare Material trader in an almost empty district.
As for the price. He swore that hed bought the shards as low as 500 gold and Ectos for 1k. Since I cant find any vendor with either for sale I cant really check how true this part is.
I even have screen shots of his bots too. He went so far as to say the name of one of his bots and say what district/town it was in(in a very "matter of fact" way), so I went to see myself. And true enough, the bot was there besides the Rare Material trader in an almost empty district.
As for the price. He swore that hed bought the shards as low as 500 gold and Ectos for 1k. Since I cant find any vendor with either for sale I cant really check how true this part is.
Drakron
Its a lie, ecto and shards prices are simply too high in the trader to anyone corner the market in such way, he (and the bots) would run out of money trying.
Dudededu
Well just managed to buy not 1 but 2 shards for 1.7k. So I can imagine there could be some truth to this all. Still checking to find ectos tho.
Volarian
A bot standing is as easily detected as a bot farming (i.e. monitoring merchants and purchases by a single account, same was monitoring areas where 1 member groups are zoning/rezoning repetitively)
Paul Templar
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Its a lie, ecto and shards prices are simply too high in the trader to anyone corner the market in such way, he (and the bots) would run out of money trying.
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this also explains why there is no black too maybe
Digital Bath
Plus, wern't the prices of ecto and shards reset at the last patch? I remember hearing people buying shards for like 100 gold and ecto for like 400 gold or 1 plat.
Jaythen Tyradel
There was a poster on this fourm a while back that thought it would be fun to buy all of one Item (steel ignots or something like that), and corner the market in order to cause the economy to crash. His idea was for him to either make some type of profit (dont know how) or attempt to ruin the economy becuase he was bored or simply thought it sounded fun to do.
Haloknight9
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Originally Posted by Dudededu
Yes I did take some screen shots... and did report it like 5 minutes ago.
I even have screen shots of his bots too. He went so far as to say the name of one of his bots and say what district/town it was in(in a very "matter of fact" way), so I went to see myself. And true enough, the bot was there besides the Rare Material trader in an almost empty district. As for the price. He swore that hed bought the shards as low as 500 gold and Ectos for 1k. Since I cant find any vendor with either for sale I cant really check how true this part is. |
I hope the cheater gets whats coming to him. Good job on screenshots and sending it in.
velvetbunny
I got really bored and curious one day and camped the Rare Material Trader for about an hour while i tried to sell stuff. Ended up buying about 6 shards for 400-500 gold a piece, so it's totally possible to do what this guys saying.
HydroX
It is possible.. I was at the rare trader the other day and I saw Shards for sale for 946g. Sadly I keep all my gold in storage, so I ran over to grab gold quick, ran back to the trader, but when I went to select the Shards, it said it was out of stock.
Depressing.
Depressing.
HydroX
By the way, am I the only person that sees that 90% of the Ember Light Camp population is BOTS? I'm getting sick of seeing bots like 'Angel Re' and 'Di Moon' running to the merchant then to the portal all the time. It's all randomized names of the same words too. Keep an eye out for that, Anet! 
Dudededu
Your not the only one... and its been going on for a long time really...
FooB
just out of curiosity, say ANet has thier eye on someone who is possibly botting, as picked up by thier constant zoning/re-zoning in thier solo party blah blah etc etc. how would they tell the difference from someone whos using a bot to do it, and someone whos doing it manually (and thus abiding by the rules, assuming they arent farming an exploit)?
as many people as it seems use bots, there must be twice that doing it "legit" and a ton of people must set off ANets sensors in this way. a TON of people have legit runs for farming runes etc.
hell, even i have worked out an excellent legit farming run i use to get rare crafting materials(and quite a chunk of cash) but now i worry im about to be warned by ANet because what im doing is simply repetative.
and please dont PM me asking what my route is, ive had this before on this and many other forums, and i dont want my route being mass-used and insta-nerfed. i will share builds in PM though.
as many people as it seems use bots, there must be twice that doing it "legit" and a ton of people must set off ANets sensors in this way. a TON of people have legit runs for farming runes etc.
hell, even i have worked out an excellent legit farming run i use to get rare crafting materials(and quite a chunk of cash) but now i worry im about to be warned by ANet because what im doing is simply repetative.
and please dont PM me asking what my route is, ive had this before on this and many other forums, and i dont want my route being mass-used and insta-nerfed. i will share builds in PM though.
Hellboy640
I am wondering the same thing how does A-Net choose whos a bot and whos not? I farm griffons for like 5 hours a day and ive been doin i t for like a week and a half. If A-net bands my account falsely do i get it back? or wat?
Lasareth
The situation is impossible at this point. I was a fully online trader camper, and bought out nearly every one that appeared when prices were low. I now monitor prices to do the same thing they did (it was my main source of income before the recent update--until the supply went dead), and the prices of ectoplasms and shards buy/sell ratio cannot make a profit.
So don't worry about it, the update seems to have solved the problem.
p.s. when I did this I was at the computer the entire time, and did not bot. I would either log out or AFK and return on ~1hour intervals to check prices. Kind of like stocks and bonds... pretty fun stuff
So don't worry about it, the update seems to have solved the problem.
p.s. when I did this I was at the computer the entire time, and did not bot. I would either log out or AFK and return on ~1hour intervals to check prices. Kind of like stocks and bonds... pretty fun stuff
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just out of curiosity, say ANet has thier eye on someone who is possibly botting, as picked up by thier constant zoning/re-zoning in thier solo party blah blah etc etc. how would they tell the difference from someone whos using a bot to do it, and someone whos doing it manually (and thus abiding by the rules, assuming they arent farming an exploit)?
as many people as it seems use bots, there must be twice that doing it "legit" and a ton of people must set off ANets sensors in this way. a TON of people have legit runs for farming runes etc. hell, even i have worked out an excellent legit farming run i use to get rare crafting materials(and quite a chunk of cash) but now i worry im about to be warned by ANet because what im doing is simply repetative. and please dont PM me asking what my route is, ive had this before on this and many other forums, and i dont want my route being mass-used and insta-nerfed. i will share builds in PM though. |
I am worried as well for i been Farming Fort ranik over and over for charr carvings and i just now found out about bots. Hell i didnt even know we are not allowed to use them. But it would help alot but hell I not going to risk my acount.
Drop of Fear
and the award for best zombie thread resurrectiong goes to...
00039
holy thread necromancy batman!
mods lock this >_>
mods lock this >_>
Darcy
ANet has invested money in tracking down the companies that run the bots and sell the gold and prosecuting them. This is why they don't ban an account immediately.
As to a real player getting banned for farming, this happens everytime ANet does a sweep of bot accounts. You are allowed to appeal the ban but you don't always win the appeal. ANet feels that if you are getting "farming flags" and ignore them then you are exhibiting "bot behavior."
As to a real player getting banned for farming, this happens everytime ANet does a sweep of bot accounts. You are allowed to appeal the ban but you don't always win the appeal. ANet feels that if you are getting "farming flags" and ignore them then you are exhibiting "bot behavior."
Arduin
Whoa Shards for 500g?! Oh Wait, June 2005....
Avarre
This thread is older than I am!