Is there any point to different Ele armours?
Shifty Geezer
All the elementalist armours I've seen so far are identical in stats except in the type of elemental resistance. I'm wondering what's the point in getting Aeromancer armour when there's more Fire damage heading my way at present?
Is that really the only difference, whereas other occupations get different attributes and better AL?
Is that really the only difference, whereas other occupations get different attributes and better AL?
ZD_kusanagi
are you talking about pvp or pve?.. because in pve.. it really doesnt matter what armor you wear.. it's easy enough anyway. But in pvp, it matters alot. you need to be equipped against the "flavor of the month" damage makers.
Aracos79
But even for PvP, isn't Aeromancer really the only choice? Air magic is easily the most popular choice for elementalists. Armor choices in this game really are too simplistic. I think ANet needs to implement some new armor variations... but that's an item for another thread.
Weezer_Blue
In PvE, you won't notice it as much. But in PvP, I suggest equipping yourself in Aeromancer armour as to have a bit more defense against those annoying Air Spike builds which seem to be so common. For PvE, it depends where you are. Mostly fire damage, except the Shiverpeaks and the Crystal Desert.
Nizzim
I think there should be a higher AL for the Fissure armors and the ascention armors, otherwise theres no point in getting them
Jwh6913
I like the looks
I use the geomancer chest, pyro gloves, hydro leggings, aero boots looks neat, especially in all purple
I use the geomancer chest, pyro gloves, hydro leggings, aero boots looks neat, especially in all purple
Nizzim
but theres no insentive to having them.
Like, kids that PVP, get the highest armor possible without earning it.
If you pay short of 80k to have special armor, wouldnt you want an extra 20 AL?
Like, kids that PVP, get the highest armor possible without earning it.
If you pay short of 80k to have special armor, wouldnt you want an extra 20 AL?
Ollj
yes yes get aero armor to make it easier for winter spirits !
KvanCetre
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
but theres no insentive to having them.
Like, kids that PVP, get the highest armor possible without earning it. If you pay short of 80k to have special armor, wouldnt you want an extra 20 AL? |
Lets go with elementalist for this:
The person using the PvP armor has 60, the person who is at droknar has 60. Its fair for both PvE and PvP to go to PvP, as their armor is equal. Someone who pays the extra cash(which isnt THAT hard to get) shouldn't suddenly be stronger than everyone else in PvP.
If you want to look different and prove you've played a lot, shell out the cash. I bought the 15k armor because it looked cooler. I even dyed it all black. If I pay that much for dye, I don't expect more armor
Nizzim
i think thats dumb
If you spend 3 hours in fissure to find the crafter and waste 200k to get the armor, I would want more armor.
Screw the pvp'ers, they should get off their asses and go get the armor. I hate this mixed view of equality and balance in this game. It should only exist in some instances, I think if you earn the armor, you should get more
If you spend 3 hours in fissure to find the crafter and waste 200k to get the armor, I would want more armor.
Screw the pvp'ers, they should get off their asses and go get the armor. I hate this mixed view of equality and balance in this game. It should only exist in some instances, I think if you earn the armor, you should get more
Rieselle
I've been trying for a while to make a workable E/W melee character for PvP... I'dve liked it if there was some real tradeoffs available in armor for all characters. For my character, as an example, I would have liked to be able to choose a set that provided higher AL (perhaps just vs. physical), or damage reduction, at the cost of something else. Max Energy, a weakness to something (eg. Mesmer/Necro/Smiting damage) etc.
Currently in Elem armour and some other armours for some other classes, the differences are so minor there's very little to think about when choosing between sets. (In fact, for elem, I mix and match to get the most visually pleasing outfit - the powers are almost irrelevant for me atm.)
Currently in Elem armour and some other armours for some other classes, the differences are so minor there's very little to think about when choosing between sets. (In fact, for elem, I mix and match to get the most visually pleasing outfit - the powers are almost irrelevant for me atm.)
TheGreatBoo
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
i think thats dumb
If you spend 3 hours in fissure to find the crafter and waste 200k to get the armor, I would want more armor. Screw the pvp'ers, they should get off their asses and go get the armor. I hate this mixed view of equality and balance in this game. It should only exist in some instances, I think if you earn the armor, you should get more |
Nizzim
no i understand that, no one said stomp out. Armor doesnt kill anything quicker.
It would just take longer to kill you, thats all
It would just take longer to kill you, thats all
Sagius Truthbarron
It even depends on the type of PvP you are doing, in my opinion.
I like to match up my elemental armor for PvE, one Anti-Eart, one Anti-Fire, one Anti-Air and one Anti-Water.
In 4vs4 I would suggest Fire and Air resistance at the moment, being that they are the prefered ele classes at the moment.
In the HoH/ToPK you might want to bring those two and and maybe even anti-earth to combat against KD warriors. That's my observance, anyway.
But in my opinion, the Hydromancer's coat is the best looking
BTW: Many make the mistake of getting armor specific to their used attribute. This is a big mistake, it's like naming your healing monk "Healing Healer [Please kill me first]": it's painting a bull's eye on your head.
Naturally people will go after the areomancer before the hydromancer.
I like to match up my elemental armor for PvE, one Anti-Eart, one Anti-Fire, one Anti-Air and one Anti-Water.
In 4vs4 I would suggest Fire and Air resistance at the moment, being that they are the prefered ele classes at the moment.
In the HoH/ToPK you might want to bring those two and and maybe even anti-earth to combat against KD warriors. That's my observance, anyway.
But in my opinion, the Hydromancer's coat is the best looking
BTW: Many make the mistake of getting armor specific to their used attribute. This is a big mistake, it's like naming your healing monk "Healing Healer [Please kill me first]": it's painting a bull's eye on your head.
Naturally people will go after the areomancer before the hydromancer.
hydrak
Hydro armor set is most effective armor for PvP (reason: ask Ollj). The 15k set is best looking too.
Weezer_Blue
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
I think there should be a higher AL for the Fissure armors and the ascention armors, otherwise theres no point in getting them
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/sarcasm
if you did that, you'd have to seperate PvE and PvP entirely, to avoid complete imbalance, and then you might as well add UAS and UAR.
... hey... that sounds like a good idea...
Nizzim
why is that such a bad idea, theres nothin wrong with a version of pvp with imbalance
Im sure it wouldnt be that hard, and it would make plenty of people happy
Im sure it wouldnt be that hard, and it would make plenty of people happy
Black Raine
15k armors were made to *BE* gold sinks.
Do you need to know anymore...?
Do you need to know anymore...?
generik
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Originally Posted by hydrak
Hydro armor set is most effective armor for PvP (reason: ask Ollj). The 15k set is best looking too.
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Unless you spammed plenty of spirits.. or use some other secrets, heck, I don't know
TheGreatBoo
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
why is that such a bad idea, theres nothin wrong with a version of pvp with imbalance
Im sure it wouldnt be that hard, and it would make plenty of people happy |
DrSLUGFly
I think fire armor is the least important since (as any fire ele knows) almost all the fire dmg is aoe and dot. So getting out from under the meteors or fire rain, and stepping out of the searing heat, is far more effective than a +15 fire armor.
Wa$d
I think its for looks personaly, I love my aeromacer 15k dyed yellow set, and i dont PvP so its really just a preference for what your taste is
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Nizzim
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Originally Posted by TheGreatBoo
If you don't know whats wrong with that statement, you need to grow up and choose a new game. It's the exact same thing as hacking or cheating. If you can't win a balanced fight, then I'm wondering why you're interested in pvp anyway. And as for making other people happy, you couldn't be further off. All it would please is the people who lack the skill to win a fight fairly and don't have the dedication or ability to strategise, form a good build, or counter opposing builds.
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Wtf does growing up have to do with anything. If you're short sighted to have open arms for some change in this game you should change youre mind set. I think two different pvp sets would please plenty of people. But apparently people bought this game and swore their blood to it, I guess you're willing to die for it, cuz you're fighting to protect it soo much
Wa$d
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
Wtf does growing up have to do with anything. If you're short sighted to have open arms for some change in this game you should change youre mind set. I think two different pvp sets would please plenty of people. But apparently people bought this game and swore their blood to it, I guess you're willing to die for it, cuz you're fighting to protect it soo much
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Brett Kuntz
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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly
I think fire armor is the least important since (as any fire ele knows) almost all the fire dmg is aoe and dot. So getting out from under the meteors or fire rain, and stepping out of the searing heat, is far more effective than a +15 fire armor.
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Nizzim
I was, but someone had to start something, so im finishing it.
There should be rewards for things you strive for, if not, then dont be dicks and put them in the game for no reason. Ive said my piece
There should be rewards for things you strive for, if not, then dont be dicks and put them in the game for no reason. Ive said my piece
entropy
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
Wtf does growing up have to do with anything. If you're short sighted to have open arms for some change in this game you should change youre mind set. I think two different pvp sets would please plenty of people. But apparently people bought this game and swore their blood to it, I guess you're willing to die for it, cuz you're fighting to protect it soo much
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hydrak
Nizzim, if you haven't notice, items in this game are not about stats. They are all about look. PvP only characters can only use basic items (collector's types), thus look like craps. PvE, due to your grindings and farming, can achieve "better" looks.
If you are about uber stats in items, then you are playing the wrong game.
If you are about uber stats in items, then you are playing the wrong game.
theclam
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Originally Posted by hydrak
Hydro armor set is most effective armor for PvP (reason: ask Ollj). The 15k set is best looking too.
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QTFsniper
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
I was, but someone had to start something, so im finishing it.
There should be rewards for things you strive for, if not, then dont be dicks and put them in the game for no reason. Ive said my piece |
But back on topic, if you are fighting the same element over and over, grab that armor for its extra benefits.
hydrak
hydro set + winter + mantra of frost = gg to all enemy elemental damage
Nizzim
I dont get why people in this game dont enjoy rewards. It really bugs me, but I guess people are too stiff to want something that would be refreshing.
Im just saying its extremely gay that theres no difference from droknars onward
Im just saying its extremely gay that theres no difference from droknars onward
hydrak
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Originally Posted by Nizzim
I dont get why people in this game dont enjoy rewards. It really bugs me, but I guess people are too stiff to want something that would be refreshing.
Im just saying its extremely gay that theres no difference from droknars onward |
Nizzim
but no better
Lampshade
Looks and to identify what type you are.
Usually Ele's will wear the armor that they accel in.
Makes a lot easier on parties
Usually Ele's will wear the armor that they accel in.
Makes a lot easier on parties
Saerden
The simple fact that nizzim is not yet flammed to death and back, rezzed, and flammed again shows what state the game currently is in. Really, build a time maschine, and try that "reward" thing on the beta forums ....
But after the release incident, i actually am looking forward to the level cap increase + the new armors with +10 AL in the expansion
On topic...
Air eles are the most dangerous thing atm, but noone said that they have to do air dmg ...
Winter > air protection gear
From what i hear, earth can be nice, too - metagame changes, and so should your armor choices
But after the release incident, i actually am looking forward to the level cap increase + the new armors with +10 AL in the expansion
On topic...
Air eles are the most dangerous thing atm, but noone said that they have to do air dmg ...
Winter > air protection gear
From what i hear, earth can be nice, too - metagame changes, and so should your armor choices