Million Damage Masacre

Rick James

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Let the crying begin.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/pk1280.jpg

AceSnyp3r

AceSnyp3r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Work in Progress [WIP]

Looks pretty 'shopped to me, judging mainly by the attribute points, 256/4? 512/5?

Synthos

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Yet another person learns how to use photoshop.

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

you blocked out the district?

I swear some people are insane

LathalDraugr

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Would have been more convincing if you sorted the attribute refund points out, they're all over the place.

Unless of course they're like that because of a real hack in which case you're going to get banned, either way it's quite funny.

Synthos

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Its not even the same font as the game numbers are..

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Synthos
Its not even the same font as the game numbers are..
owned

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

it would be more believeable if it was actualy possible

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

nice photoshopping.

... I wish I had photoshop... but I'm too cheap.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Unfortunately the font is the same, it is very possible to hack these numbers, and I wouldn't put it past some people to do so.

I mean, look at FFXI, for example... lol. Hacks to run faster, walk in the sky, etc etc. Very possible for GW as well. Albeit low.

Tigris Of Gaul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I'm pretty sure it's the same font...

Sanity

Sanity

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Honor An Respect

W/E

Nice picture, although I'm not fond of fakes.

Darc.Syde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Spirits Of War

Me/Mo

it could be a hack that only affects his client, but doesnt reflect on anets servers. so go in with your 350 healing prayers, you'll still be healing for 16 or under.

TopGun

TopGun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I doubt that Syde, that'd be a hardcoded hack, and a pretty useless one at that.

You know, I thought the font type was very convincing, he just needs to learn to count.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

the problem is you cant base its realness off of text, its not rocket science to find a matching font

Speedy

Speedy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Knights of the Alliance - KoA

Mo/W

It's obviously photoshopped, but how is this a massacre if you're not killing anything?

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

and thats hardly 1,000,000 damage... i guess its just to show off his photoshop skills and the title is just meant to draw you in

ManadartheHealer

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

Ah, the wonders of photoshop

Squallox

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Syde is correct. This could also be a client side edit using tsearch or something.

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

2063 is the correct amount of damage a signet of judgment would do at level 512, assuming that the damage increase is linear.

Can someone with the smite attribute level GREATER than 12 confirm how much damage they are doing with their signet?

At level 12 the damage is 63. If the progression is linear, then the damage is 67 at level 13 smite or 71 at level 14 and so on (base 15 damage + 4 every level). If, however, someone comes back and says that the damage is NOT 67, and is actually anything else, then the picture is faked. If however the damage IS 67, then we are no closer to knowing the truth but at least we tried.

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

lol... not even worth mentioning the validity of the picture... but the font match is pretty smooth.

Freyas

Freyas

Champion of the Absurd

Join Date: Jan 2005

Spirits of War

Mo/W

It is possible to hack the client application on your computer- people have done that for speed hacks. Unfortunately, the server keeps track of all the information about your character, and ignores anything your client tells it that can't happen. Sure, you can zoom around 10x faster than normal movement speed, but to everyone else, you move normally, and you don't actually see mobs that are not nearby to where the server has your character, and you'll routinely get warped back to where you are at for the server(as a side note, this is where rubberbanding comes from- if the server thinks your caught on something, and your client doesn't, a couple seconds later, you'll jump back to where the server says you are).

I'm sure a similar thing could be done for attribute-point allocation, client-side, but in the photoshopped picture, if you ever use that Signet of Judgement, you'll be doing the damage of a level 4 SoJ, as that's the amount of attribute points the server says you've put into smiting prayers(since there's 5 to boost it to the next level). Your client can say whatever it wants, but you're not going to have any advantage when you actually play.

Whether or not the picture is photoshopped, it's not having any effect on the game- only the view from your client.

The Amazing Krandor

The Amazing Krandor

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/N

Where, exactly, does one find henchmen in the game that are simply named "Healer Henchman"?

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

in the tombs silly

The Warbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by TopGun
I doubt that Syde, that'd be a hardcoded hack, and a pretty useless one at that.

You know, I thought the font type was very convincing, he just needs to learn to count.

Nope, it wouldn't be a "hardcoded hack". I could do it and I'm 13...

Arturo02

Arturo02

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

See that third planet from the sun?

Sacred Forge Knights

R/Me

Not that we needed any more evidence that this person's claim is bogus...

this is an upclose version of this person's pic:




this is an upclose version of my hero screen:



Note the clarity of the pixels around the numbers on my pic as compared to the first pic. Lots of fuzziness which most times means doctoring.

Not that we didn't know this already

*edit* not to mention the different font usage as I have since noticed hehe

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arturo02
Note the clarity of the pixels around the numbers on my pic as compared to the first pic. Lots of fuzziness which most times means doctoring.

Not that we didn't know this already

*edit* not to mention the different font usage as I have since noticed hehe
I don't mean to be a party pooper or dead-horse beater, but pixel quality is related to compression quality of the saved pic.

Also the overlay settings, try using -largest- on the Options menu, and his font will look a lot more believable.

I don't think this is photoshopped, just messed with in coding. And not knowing how server client data check and balance works, I'm not going to go into its impact on gameplay.

Arturo02

Arturo02

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

See that third planet from the sun?

Sacred Forge Knights

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasareth
I don't mean to be a party pooper or dead-horse beater, but pixel quality is related to compression quality of the saved pic.

Also the overlay settings, try using -largest- on the Options menu, and his font will look a lot more believable.

I don't think this is photoshopped, just messed with in coding. And not knowing how server client data check and balance works, I'm not going to go into its impact on gameplay.
it's doctored. If you blow it up you see the differences.

Dr Morbius

Dr Morbius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Where Am I??

The Crimson Mantle

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick James
Let the crying begin.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

But seriously Rick... to silence all of the doubters, why not give us video eh?

I have a funny feeling though, we'll never see it.

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

I can't believe that the validity of this is even being discussed... there's no mystery to solve, there's no proof needed...

Dr Morbius

Dr Morbius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Where Am I??

The Crimson Mantle

E/Mo

Because we're bored?

Saerden

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

There is no way to disprove his / her claims. The picture may be a real screenshot - the interesting part is wether the server uses his numbers, or not. And there is no way you can disprove that. He can fail to prove them, but this is no falsification. Or can you disprove the existence of a hiding god, too?

Mithie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Rest En Pieces [RIP]

Me/W

How high do you want the numbers? Just tap into the Guild Wars memory instance, find the address of those stats, and raise them up. Clientside only, but it'll get the effect up.

Imrys Starborn

Imrys Starborn

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Canada

Mo/Me

Everyone take a gooood look at the number 5 on both pictures posted above... they are NOT the same... hence, the foto is undoubtedly fixed

Dr Morbius

Dr Morbius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Where Am I??

The Crimson Mantle

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imrys Starborn
Everyone take a gooood look at the number 5 on both pictures posted above... they are NOT the same... hence, the foto is undoubtedly fixed
Good catch. On my fist viewing of the pictures, I couldn't see any real difference in font styles... but you're 100% correct about the 5 being different. The 5's from the legit image have no serif... whereas the fake 5's definitely have serifs. Again... good catch!

Edit: And now that I'm looking more closely at the serif's (or lack of them), I'm noticing issues with the 4's and 2's as well.

Synthos

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

I think the bottom photo is just stretched a bit, so the serif is hidden.

Dr Morbius

Dr Morbius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Where Am I??

The Crimson Mantle

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Synthos
I think the bottom photo is just stretched a bit, so the serif is hidden.
Taking your theory into consideration, I went and stretched a portion of the "alleged" fake.



I even went a little overboard with the stretch... and as you can see... the serifs remain. In other words... FAKE!

Edit: Another way to look at is... the 5's in the legit image go flat at the base. The 5's in the fake image are rounded at the base.

zidane888

zidane888

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle WA

[Oops]

W/R

I work at premier graphics on a typsetting team. IE our job is to replace as precisely as possible words/letters/numbers using a database of fonts. ^ this image is doctored period.

Dr Morbius

Dr Morbius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Where Am I??

The Crimson Mantle

E/Mo

As I stated earlier... I'm bored. So here's zoomed in look at the differences in the 5's.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

the fake pictures uses a Tahoma Family Font the real graphics are a Roman Family Font....close but you'll notice that the kerning is off as well...which could have been faked had he just used seperate layers for each number.