warriors should get 10 more power

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asdar
Krytan Explorer
#1
Warriors are just awful in Tombs and PvP. They can do alright in 4 v 4 arena but they are so weak in HoH.

I think it's 'cause there's so many ways to stop them. Just running will stop most attacks. Even if your'e slowed you can usually sidestep a bit. With all that running they're having trouble building adrenaline while the runner is having no trouble regaining power.

If they gave warriors ten more power they could be a threat again.

Or maybe a pool of adrenaline to start with, or a skill that halves condition duration.

As it is they're just spot threats. You can't ignore them but they won't single handedly ruin any build the way a ranger/necro/mesmer can and they can't protect anyone the way a monk can and even if by some miracle they trap a monk they can't damage them as devastatingly as an ele can without trapping them.
Weezer_Blue
Weezer_Blue
Elite Guru
#2
Try a hammer warrior, or... a good build.
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Xellos
Jungle Guide
#3
What does 10 more power mean? Like 10+/10+ magic cards? 10 more levels so that warriors are level 30 bosses? Elaborate please.
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Calimar
Frost Gate Guardian
#4
He meant 10 more energy/mana, I think.

I stand with weezer blue - warriors have adrenaline and sidestepping or running won't help much. Try a new build.
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Xellos
Jungle Guide
#5
I dunno, maybe 10 more energy arrows sounds more like it.
Algren Cole
Algren Cole
Banned
#6
or...you could come to the same realization that the rest of us have....your warrior isn't a damage dealer, he's a tank.
Mumblyfish
Mumblyfish
Lion's Arch Merchant
#7
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
or...you could come to the same realization that the rest of us have....your warrior isn't a damage dealer, he's a tank.
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Xellos
Jungle Guide
#8
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
or...you could come to the same realization that the rest of us have....your warrior isn't a damage dealer, he's a tank.
Can't agree more, every warrior should use Bonetti's defense and have Life Barrier on them right guys?
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MuKen
Frost Gate Guardian
#9
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
or...you could come to the same realization that the rest of us have....your warrior isn't a damage dealer, he's a tank.
Umm... he was talking about pvp...
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Mormegil
Krytan Explorer
#10
Hey, what about shield stance, endure pain, defy pain as Elite and dryder's defense on my Mighty Pwner W/R? My mates are all dead already, but hey, look, a grp of 8 people is taking FOREVER to finish me off, I'm so cool!
Weezer_Blue
Weezer_Blue
Elite Guru
#11
Tanks are completely useless in PvP. Your job is either to disrupt enemy actions, to deal damage, or to heal protect your team mates. Protecting yourself does none of these, but if the team works right, you should have no need to protect yourself.

Warriors can both deal damage and disrupt... very well...
Algren Cole
Algren Cole
Banned
#12
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Originally Posted by MuKen
Umm... he was talking about pvp...

which is the reason warriors are awful for PvP.....
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Xellos
Jungle Guide
#13
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Originally Posted by Mormegil
Hey, what about shield stance, endure pain, defy pain as Elite and dryder's defense on my Mighty Pwner W/R? My mates are all dead already, but hey, look, a grp of 8 people is taking FOREVER to finish me off, I'm so cool!
Pssh shield stance is noob, gotta kite korean style run around in burial mounds for about 30 minutes to be a true warrior.
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Calimar
Frost Gate Guardian
#14
Xellos I don't really understand if yours is sarcasm or you're trying to troll or what.

Point is, warriors can be damage dealers but it's not their main role or the role cut out for them. Warriors force a monk to run or spend his energy curing himself - being a monk, I know. A good warrior can deal lots of damage. Not as much as an elementalist can, but try to keep an ele energy up in a heated battle... warriors become better while the battle lasts.
No class should be underestimated. If it doesn't work for you, it might not be your class, or you can be a bad player.
RTSFirebat
RTSFirebat
The Humanoid Typhoon
#15
Warriors are underpowered.... lol! Ok maybe your just doing something wrong, they are anything but underpowered.
Ollj
Ollj
Jungle Guide
#16
Hehe, good warriors in the tombs. thats a good joke.
This is the place were they realize this game is not a hacknslash and they actually have to THINK.
Most fail!
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Xellos
Jungle Guide
#17
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Originally Posted by Calimar
Xellos I don't really understand if yours is sarcasm or you're trying to troll or what.

Point is, warriors can be damage dealers but it's not their main role or the role cut out for them. Warriors force a monk to run or spend his energy curing himself - being a monk, I know. A good warrior can deal lots of damage. Not as much as an elementalist can, but try to keep an ele energy up in a heated battle... warriors become better while the battle lasts.
No class should be underestimated. If it doesn't work for you, it might not be your class, or you can be a bad player.
You accuse me of trolling yet not Calimar? I take offense to that >=(
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Diomedes
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
I feel very strongly that warriors do not need 10 more energy. Warriors can already don gladiator's armor and swap out a shield for a foci. Doing this can net a warrior...roughly 50 energy (with a regen of 1 pip) (20 + 8 [glad] + 12 [foci] + 15 [foci mod/-1 pip] = 55). This is a trade off. The whole game is a series of trade offs. Working with less energy is fine since warriors have plenty of adrenaline based skills (something that's great and unique to them) and several ways to build up adrenaline and energy via stances. The solution is to either make the trade off and give yourself a lot of energy or pick cheaper skills or pick skills that help you recover energy. The solution is not +10 energy.

-Diomedes
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Meeker
Ascalonian Squire
#19
If you think warriors are worthless for pvp then I am sorry for you. ON second though I am happy that you are so oblivious because that makes my guilds build, which includes 3 warriors, to run rampant even longer.

To put it bruntly warriors are incredible damage dealers/utility characters. People do not normally attack warriors because like you they think they are useless. This allows warriors to get away with a lot of things.

Get creative, warriors are not tanks in PvP, far from it. Go look at other things a warriors can do then reach conclusions.
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Lorelei
Frost Gate Guardian
#20
A suggestion: there are ways for warrior to gain adrenaline without having to hit with hammer/axe/sword. Oopps, why should I tell that?

I am against giving warrior +10 energy. The minute you do that, you would have elementalist or necromancer in warrior costume....