Build the ultimate bow

Silverglade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Honor Above All

R/Mo

I just built a max damage poisoner's longbow of defense (+4), that I'm pretty happy with. Otherwise, what would you build as your "ultimate" bow?

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vampiric 5:1 of Fortitude(+25 HP)

Tinweasele

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

fiery, enchanting+20, +15>50, half moon (mursaat version)

corax5

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

Whats the difference between a normal and Mursaat bow?

I think Zealous Longbow of Quickfire would be the ultimate bow, but that doesnt exist...

Enigmatics

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

Appearence. I was under the impression that all muursat bows are simply horn bows with different appearences; evidently I'm wrong.

Tinweasele

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

no they are just a difference in looks... my ultimate bow would have to look cool as well:-P

Enigmatics

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

Storm Bows seem to scratch most people's itch. If you're into flaunting your money for a plastic toy, go get one. They've got longbow specs and good critical %.

Tinweasele

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

I already sold off all my storm bows *shrug*. longbows are too slow and slow=low dps so i use a horn bow with tigers fury and favorable wind to give a straight flight path as well as a rapid rate of fire.

Ripper

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I'm just about finished up with my perfect bow collection. So far I have.

Zealous Half Moon of Fortitude
Max Damage Half-Moon
+15% > 50
+30 Fortitude Grip
Zealous Bow String

Poisoners Ascalon Bow of Marksmanship
Max Damage Ascalon Bow
+15% > 50
+20% Marksmanship Grip
Poisoners Bow String

Sundering Hornbow of Marksmanship
Max Damage Horn Bow (Old style)
+15% > 50
+20% Marksmanship Grip
Sundering Bow String 10/10

What I would like is the following.

Vampiric Half-Moon of Fortitude
Max Damage Half-Moon
+15% > 50
+30 Fortitude Grip
5/1 Vampiric String

The feathered style Longbow with
Max Damage
+15% > 50
mods that I can swap out when I need to.

Enigmatics

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

I've never said that storm bows have good performance; I just said they look like neon flashing toys that little boys play with.

corax5

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

I think the reason Stormbows etc are so popular is because people think they are the best, in most cases, like cars for eg, generally the cooler somthing looks the better it is, this is true in most games too. So here people see that something looks amazing, so they automatically think its the best, same with 15k armor.
Although there isnt anything wrong with paying for something that looks cool, as long as you've got the money.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

I like my storm bow. I think it looks really nice. BTW the short bow is not that much faster than the storm has 40 foot less range and a longer flight time.

corax5

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

So is there a Mursaat version of the Flatbow?

Thanato

Thanato

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Quebec, Canada

Followers of the Faith

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
I like my storm bow. I think it looks really nice. BTW the short bow is not that much faster than the storm has 40 foot less range and a longer flight time.
but you're forgetting something, storm bow has a higher arc to its flight path as compared to a shortbow

up close and personal i'd use my shortbow over a longbow anyday (especially with the one i have now )

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
I like my storm bow. I think it looks really nice. BTW the short bow is not that much faster than the storm has 40 foot less range and a longer flight time.

but..short bow or half moon + tigers fury = effective
longbow + tigers fury = waste...

I think that's the main difference.

Tinweasele

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...ies-id1092.php

i guess you are right in some sense although if you do the math i guess a short bow is a better choice than a horn bow. lower refire time and near to the same flight time although throw up a favorable winds and pretty much all the flight time is the same. or close enough that the refire time is all that matters. and lets be honest how often do we do long range fighting? i can think of about 2 times in PvE where doing long range is useful for helping complete the mission(ascension missions). you should always have a back up longbow for those occasions and pulling but in combat the shortbow is the superior weapon.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tinweasele: exactly...I'd never use a longbow as my main. I have two half moons as my main bows. one fiery one icey(seems to be all I really need as I'm a trapper not a marksman). I use the longbow for firing over obstacles or firing up to enemies perched above me..other than that I never use it. And it's a simple clean white max dmg ascalon bow. It's good for pulling too...but really you can pull without using a bow.

Tinweasele

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

does anyone know if speed enhancements are ever on bow drops? or is it only the like 2 collectors? i would kill many people for the chance to use a fiery short bow with 66% speed bonus.

Bwsk8

Bwsk8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/E

For the perfect cheap bow go with a short ascalon collectors bow with +15% dmg, a +5 defence bow grip and a poisoners bow string.

Iceciro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Surface Warfare and Tactics

E/N

Where can I get that bow? I mean, where is the collector? That bow sounds great for my budget builds, since I'm trying to get good armor for my Warrior too.

Bwsk8

Bwsk8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/E

Mineral Springs, its is from moutain troll tusks, I think. Or you can just get one from someone in Lions Arch for about 2k + 2k for Posion String + 2k for Defence Bow Grip. = 6k for a near perfect bow. I suppose Vamp or Sundering String would be better but that would raise the price around 60k-100k. Also dont go for a fortitude bow grip it will just cost more and still be less efective than the defence grip.

Thanato

Thanato

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Quebec, Canada

Followers of the Faith

R/Me

O.o makes me wonder about my bow

Sundering Ascalon bow of Fortitude
15~28 (acts like shortbow)
+15% when health above 50%
armor penetration +10% (5%)
Health +27

any guesstimates on this?

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thanato
O.o makes me wonder about my bow

Sundering Ascalon bow of Fortitude
15~28 (acts like shortbow)
+15% when health above 50%
armor penetration +10% (5%)
Health +27

any guesstimates on this?
Well, the health grip on it is nice, too bad there is no way to salvage it out. I've seen better sundering strings.

David Lionmaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

above the floor and below the celing

Fortunes Favored

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinweasele
does anyone know if speed enhancements are ever on bow drops? or is it only the like 2 collectors? i would kill many people for the chance to use a fiery short bow with 66% speed bonus.
what? u can get a bow that has a faster fire rate? i didnt know that. are there really ones like that?

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Lionmaster
what? u can get a bow that has a faster fire rate? i didnt know that. are there really ones like that?
There are collector bows with speed modifiers not seen on any other bows. The sad part is those collector bows are all way below max damage. I wish higher marksmanship would increase bow fire rate, but that's another topic.

Kishin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The Twilight Vanguard [TTV]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwsk8
Mineral Springs, its is from moutain troll tusks, I think. Or you can just get one from someone in Lions Arch for about 2k + 2k for Posion String + 2k for Defence Bow Grip. = 6k for a near perfect bow. I suppose Vamp or Sundering String would be better but that would raise the price around 60k-100k. Also dont go for a fortitude bow grip it will just cost more and still be less efective than the defence grip.
There's actually another, easier to get Ascalon Bow that acts as a short bow and has +15% damage when health is over 50% in the Desert, due south of Destiny's Gorge. A collector named Mourn Drakespear takes 5 hydra claws for it.
The Mineral Springs can be a bit of a haul to walk to.

Also, the only collector's bow I recall with a speed modifier had -66% attack speed. Ouch.

A max damage version of the Longbow you can craft at Denravi (Which adds +10 armor) would also be nice.

Izzy Izumi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/N

That Armor Penetration is useless, IMHO. A 1 in 20 chance of a 10% AP is not worth it at all. I'd change that so something more useful. A zealous string if you spam fast shots, or even a fiery string if you want to use it in conjunction with Kindle/Ignite Arrows. Or if you want constant damage, a perfect 5:1 or 4:1 bowstring would help too.

I personally use
Fiery Ascalon Bow (Ascalon Bow bought of Drakespur near Skyward Reach)
15-28 Fire Damage
+15% > 50% (though, I'm starting to debate how good this is...I'd rather have 15% in stance right now)

Lowbow of Fortitude
14-27
+15% > 50%
+21 health

Prolly gonna try to get a Defense Grip for the short bow next. The longbow's only used for pulling, so I don't mind what the stats are on that one, really.

David Lionmaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

above the floor and below the celing

Fortunes Favored

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasher Dragon
There are collector bows with speed modifiers not seen on any other bows. The sad part is those collector bows are all way below max damage. I wish higher marksmanship would increase bow fire rate, but that's another topic.
where do you get these?

mvpberto

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

California

Knight of Eternal Darkness

E/Mo

Vampiric Half Moon of Fortitude

15-28(req 8)

+15%Dmg(always no penelties)

+5life steal

-1life regeneration

+30health

There is +%Dmg with no penelty weapons they only appeared in the first week of when guild wars came out i wish i would've farmed drakes all day =(

Lasher Dragon

Lasher Dragon

Draconic Rage Incarnate

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Alphahive

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Lionmaster
where do you get these?
Check the collector thread, I am not sure - but I remember seeing a collector with one near Serenity Temple.

Bwsk8

Bwsk8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kishin
A max damage version of the Longbow you can craft at Denravi (Which adds +10 armor) would also be nice.
At Henge of Denravi or somewhere out side it because all i could find was a crappy +15% while enchanted that wasn't even max?

Lord Malikai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Colorado

Imperial Fist Guild Leader

W/E

I have a ...

Sundering Storm Bow of Fortitude
15-28
+12% while enchanted (I'm R/Me, keep a perma enchantment up, Illusionary Weakness)
10% armor penetration (9% chance)
+20 Health

Sure, the mods could be better but I haven't picked one up yet. +10 health really isn't worth 90k to me, for a +30 fortitude mod I mean. Anyway. I like this bow. Short distance bad ? Errm, when I'm up close and personal, there is no firing arc, it just shoots the mob in front of me at the same speed a shortbow would. The only noticeable difference is the reload time. .2 seconds isn't a whole lot (it might actually be .5 but big deal). Tigers Fury works the same if you are at close range with this bow just as it would a shortbow. The only big difference I've found between using my halfmoon and stormbow is that I like being able to pull from an inch out of my agro bubble and not having to worry about switching weapons. Who cares, really. Go with what you feel comfortable with. I've used em all, have been enjoying the longbow style of the stormbow.

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Zealous Short of Defense.

Peace,
-CxE

shady_knife

shady_knife

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Australia, Victoria

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
Vampiric 5:1 of Fortitude(+25 HP)
iv got a vamp half moon 5/1 + 20hp, gold to, very nice

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

I'd have to have two, because long and short range + rate of fire is important...

Vampiric (5:1) Shortbow of Defense (5)
Zealous Storm Bow of Defense (5)


...I wouldn't put Vampiric on a cool looking bow, cause then in non-battling, I gotta put it away.

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

Icey Stormbow of Marksmanship +15% dmg in stance.

I found mine so it's free, cool looking, and I love its range. No 15% dmg modifier though, I'm not that lucky. I would definitely prefer a bow for range then for point blank fighting no matter what anyone says.

I'm warrior type. I'd easily whip out a sword+shield with Apply Poison for close fights if needed. Someone got Fragility? ^_^

Paine

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Clan Plus [Plus]

Here's my one:
Longbow
* 15-28 dmg
* +30 HP
* Armor Penetration 15% ( chance 10% )
* Damage above 50%

It's a golden one with perfect stats. It's a longbow with the longest range and the fastest firerate. The arc isn't the fastest though =/
Still pure ownage =)