I think its been a week since Europe had favor.
They have been getting really close sometimes.
Just wondering if we are backing off on trying to get the favor?
Europe not trying its hard enough?
Faith the Insane
Hmm..
I think its been a week since Europe had favor.
They have been getting really close sometimes.
Just wondering if we are backing off on trying to get the favor?
I think its been a week since Europe had favor.
They have been getting really close sometimes.
Just wondering if we are backing off on trying to get the favor?
madness2k4
The Amercian and Korean always hogs the favor and for Europe hardly any. The current favor system simply "does not" work. It is for unfair for the people who plays on the european server like myself. I've been getting quite paranoid with Europe and it not getting favor often enough, even if it did get favor it'll only last about. If we're lucky when korean and amercian necking for favor then 2 to 3hrs at max. Then don't expect the next few days for favor. I think my last entry to underworld was sunday or was it monday of this week.
Nash
Stop playing on European server like the smart people?
Krank
That was a stupid comment Nash.
But i think Europes players aren`t as "committed" as Koreans and Americans.
But i think Europes players aren`t as "committed" as Koreans and Americans.
Nash
It wasn't stupid at all.
Consider the following:
Europe never has favor.
America has favor often.
You want to play in areas that require favor.
You can switch to America.
What is the smart thing to do?
Consider the following:
Europe never has favor.
America has favor often.
You want to play in areas that require favor.
You can switch to America.
What is the smart thing to do?
rii
meh, i switched to the american server, on the simple principle that there are more people there, and therefore the chances of finding the class you need is somewhat higher. Twas amazing to go into team arenas and find it flodded with 'mo healer lfg', whereas in good old europe there would just be maybe an ele stood huddled in the corner hoping you wouldnt talk to him.
vLx
nice idea switching to the american dis. avoiding any trouble, making your life easy. but I will stay on the european districts forever muhahaharr. i just dont care about the favor.
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Andy_M
Went on the us servers briefly, didn't like it (ppl generally more abusive, ect) went back. Funny thing is, although I don't really consider myself European leaving for an easy life on the US servers just feels.....wrong.
judders
I dont think u should really swap to America becaus if everyone does then there is no way that Europe will ever win favor.
edwinna elbert
Thta's some of the problem; asome of the so-called 'hardcore' players decide that the American server is a a better place to play and so move there, leaving Europe with less players. Korean players are by farthe most dedicated; S. Korea has a population of 48 million people, yet they can compete easily against the US with 300 million people and Europe, who have even more.
So no, Europe aren't trying as hard as they should.
So no, Europe aren't trying as hard as they should.
rii
^^ whats population got to do with it???
you need about 5 teams of high quality and thats about it. Everything after that is mush. If youve got that many teams, you should hold the favour whenever your awake.
you need about 5 teams of high quality and thats about it. Everything after that is mush. If youve got that many teams, you should hold the favour whenever your awake.
Arcador
Well, they can do some sort of auto balance program. Here is a simple example - the more time you have not win the favor of the gods - the less wins you have to do. The min ammount can be around 2 wins and the maximum 8. For example America take the favor from Korea with 5 wins, then Korea from America with X wins and then America have to win 6 times to get the favor (not 5)...if America does not get favor for 12 hours then the limit goes down to 5 and so on. If you win your limit goes with 1 up.
There can be done nomerous such automated balance things. This was the simplest one.
There can be done nomerous such automated balance things. This was the simplest one.
Mayar third Keeper
The WaW system is dieing. The lesser europ gains the favor the more people switch to the US servers. The more people switch the lesser we win.....
quanzong
How do you switch servers? I want to go over to Korea.
POP deals a lot with winning favor, you have more pool of people and much better chance to have better players. Kind of like a million trying out for basket ball team, after tryouts you expect that team to be best. I've seen Europe get favor couple times, dunno why you think they havent gotten favor in a week or so.
POP deals a lot with winning favor, you have more pool of people and much better chance to have better players. Kind of like a million trying out for basket ball team, after tryouts you expect that team to be best. I've seen Europe get favor couple times, dunno why you think they havent gotten favor in a week or so.
Faith the Insane
I dunno how to switch to korea , When I used up my 5 switches 
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I never saw that you could switch to Korea .
Only America and Europe , but it might be different for others.
, I never saw that you could switch to Korea .
Only America and Europe , but it might be different for others.
Yabba
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Hmm..
I think its been a week since Europe had favor. They have been getting really close sometimes. Just wondering if we are backing off on trying to get the favor? |
and atm many european countries have holidays so people are on vacation.
... and it´s summer. sane people play less and spend their time out and at the beach instead in front of a monitor
but since i don´t care about favor i just have fun as usual in in tombs and gvg on euro server .
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Mariena Feladon
Hmpf. Call Nash's comment stupid, but if you really want to play in the UW/FoW regularly then you can better switch to the American servers.
I did that for two obvious reasons:
- Favor
- Everybody speaks English
And I've met a lot of European, and even Dutch, players on the American servers. Don't hesitate, you and your guild should move!
I did that for two obvious reasons:
- Favor
- Everybody speaks English
And I've met a lot of European, and even Dutch, players on the American servers. Don't hesitate, you and your guild should move!
corax5
It may be a smart idea to move to America, but we shouldn't have to in the first place, people in Europe are effectivly being penalized for not living in America or Korea.
But the thing is that I doubt the system will EVER change, it would probably take allot of effort and difficulty to change it to a more balanced system, plus MANY MANY people, mostly in America and Korea probably would got nuts.
The only thing Europe can do is "do better"......
But the thing is that I doubt the system will EVER change, it would probably take allot of effort and difficulty to change it to a more balanced system, plus MANY MANY people, mostly in America and Korea probably would got nuts.
The only thing Europe can do is "do better"......
zersenser
Maybe it's not known for players on american an korean servers, but ANet did european players no favor in splitting it up in different language districts. 
It's splittet in english, french, german, spanish and italian districts, so especially italian and spanish districts are almost empty. The ANet supports suggest to switch to english districts, which isn't helpful at all. Many players like me usually switch to the english districts to find groups at all and my opinion is that you find better groups in that district. But more than once I really thought of a switch to an american server to get rid of those limitations. Many already did.
I don't know who had the idea at ANet and why, but instead of the usually community driven development and this was a change which "killed" the whole european game experience without need. There were better solutions suggested but ignored.
It's splittet in english, french, german, spanish and italian districts, so especially italian and spanish districts are almost empty. The ANet supports suggest to switch to english districts, which isn't helpful at all. Many players like me usually switch to the english districts to find groups at all and my opinion is that you find better groups in that district. But more than once I really thought of a switch to an american server to get rid of those limitations. Many already did.
I don't know who had the idea at ANet and why, but instead of the usually community driven development and this was a change which "killed" the whole european game experience without need. There were better solutions suggested but ignored.
StandardAI
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Maybe it's not known for players on american an korean servers, but ANet did european players no favor in splitting it up in different language districts.
It's splittet in english, french, german, spanish and italian districts, so especially italian and spanish districts are almost empty. The ANet supports suggest to switch to english districts, which isn't helpful at all. Many players like me usually switch to the english districts to find groups at all and my opinion is that you find better groups in that district. But more than once I really thought of a switch to an american server to get rid of those limitations. Many already did. I don't know who had the idea at ANet and why, but instead of the usually community driven development and this was a change which "killed" the whole european game experience without need. There were better solutions suggested but ignored. |
zersenser
Yes, thats a point, too. Some language districts exists, some languages are ignored and pushed into the english district. To really straight forward. Language channels would be helpful and I don't have a clue why this simple and requested method was ignored.
Nash
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I dont think u should really swap to America becaus if everyone does then there is no way that Europe will ever win favor.
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Yeah, apearently swedish isn't a language. Who would of thought.
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StandardAI
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And this matters.... Why?
Well there are only 9 million Swedes, and not all of them speak Swedish. A small and insignificant language. Also Swedes are generally better at English than many other nationalities. This much due to how much English you're exposed to in Sweden, we have only subtitles and not voice-overs, many of the commercials are in English only, music in English, etc. |
Andy_M
Europe will never be as organised as the Americans and the Koreans. This has been discussed at length before, it just won't happen. Too many different nationalities, languages ect. WaW system is fatally flawed and became worse when they split up the European servers. Don't see why a PvP thing should affect PVE areas anyway...
EternalTempest
I don't think it the issue of not trying to hard but too many isolated regions grouped in to one.
Korea - One country / Culture
USA - One country / Culture
Europe - Many Country’s & Cultures
When they anet step this system up I suppose they assumed there would be several good competitive guild from each country and as long as one of them made it, it would represent all of Europe to stay with the single country servers.
Nash has a point but it wasn't tactful but a very valid option. There are a lot of Europe players on the USA server (in our guild for that fact). I also have been reading about how little advertising / sales push in Europe for guild wars.
If Europe is not getting the favor at all or way out of proportion then they need to find an alt system or break the all the countries in to there own server but since the way HoH is set up and the physically servers themselves, they may have some trouble with this.
They had problems with everyone in general districts on Europe and language issues and that's why they grouped them the way they did to resolve those.
If the expansion is going to give us new area's like Fow/Uw, when the expansion come's out, maybe give Fow/Uw to everyone and leave the new zones under the current system?
Korea - One country / Culture
USA - One country / Culture
Europe - Many Country’s & Cultures
When they anet step this system up I suppose they assumed there would be several good competitive guild from each country and as long as one of them made it, it would represent all of Europe to stay with the single country servers.
Nash has a point but it wasn't tactful but a very valid option. There are a lot of Europe players on the USA server (in our guild for that fact). I also have been reading about how little advertising / sales push in Europe for guild wars.
If Europe is not getting the favor at all or way out of proportion then they need to find an alt system or break the all the countries in to there own server but since the way HoH is set up and the physically servers themselves, they may have some trouble with this.
They had problems with everyone in general districts on Europe and language issues and that's why they grouped them the way they did to resolve those.
If the expansion is going to give us new area's like Fow/Uw, when the expansion come's out, maybe give Fow/Uw to everyone and leave the new zones under the current system?
corax5
Even before the language divides in Europe I dont recall Europe getting that much anyway, PvP and PvE should not be forcibly linked, if a PvE player wants to do the ultimate PvE they are FORCED to do PvP, mabey not in America and Korea where the PvP players do the job for them, but in Europe, once you've completed the game you have to PvP to do anymore PvE. (Or just wait for a blue moon.)
Alathys Tylderaan
Everyone knows that the good EU players still hang around in international looking for PUGs...
But yeah, it's depressing that with more people leaving the Eu server for america, it becomes less and less that we get our chance to have favour.
I took a trip to the US server yesterday to have a look at trader prices and during my breif stay, i actually turned my local filters on, because the amount of crap going on the chat was disgusting. I'll never move to america, because it just wouldn't be right. I'm quite proud to be european and leaving so that i can be lazy and let people take favour for me would be something i just can't do. Europe Unite and take favour once more!
Something else i noticed is that I see the big euro guilds not being active as much anymore, Rus Corp, Valandor, I haven't seen those for a while. Esoteric Warriors are hopefuls and there's a few others, like TWG that just haven't been able to ge through recently
But yeah, it's depressing that with more people leaving the Eu server for america, it becomes less and less that we get our chance to have favour.
I took a trip to the US server yesterday to have a look at trader prices and during my breif stay, i actually turned my local filters on, because the amount of crap going on the chat was disgusting. I'll never move to america, because it just wouldn't be right. I'm quite proud to be european and leaving so that i can be lazy and let people take favour for me would be something i just can't do. Europe Unite and take favour once more!
Something else i noticed is that I see the big euro guilds not being active as much anymore, Rus Corp, Valandor, I haven't seen those for a while. Esoteric Warriors are hopefuls and there's a few others, like TWG that just haven't been able to ge through recently
Nash
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But yeah, it's depressing that with more people leaving the Eu server for america, it becomes less and less that we get our chance to have favour.
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I'm quite proud to be european and leaving so that i can be lazy and let people take favour for me would be something i just can't do. Europe Unite and take favour once more!
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Personally I could care less if people in a server group labelled "Europe" or "America" has access to the favor content, as long as I do too. Then again, I don't let illogical and arbitrary restrictions stand in the way of my goals.
StandardAI
Not like they're missing out on much really.
Mariena Feladon
Unless they need to grind XP for skill points.
Right, Nash?
Right, Nash?
StandardAI
Actually you can get skill points a lot faster outside of TOA, That's a common misconception.
Nash
Solo XP farming really depends on your character setup, though, and you need scrolls for it. Anyone can be on a team in UW, and it's a lot cheaper.