No Korean Server Access??

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

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I think that it's pretty preposterous that we can't play on the Korean servers. I've been learning Korean for awhile and I would really like the opportunity to use my knowledge of it on something other than a low scale, 2d game.

I think not allowing Korean server changes also builds up a lot of racial tension. For one thing, it makes people hate it when Korea gets the favor because they can't share in the favor; like they could if Europe had it. It also gives the idea that you would find less English speaking people on the Korean servers than the European; not true, all Korea schools today teach English while it is seen as secular in most European countries. This may also give people the idea that Koreans aren't in the same "plain" as Europeans and Americans.

Why not a Korean server change option??

Maxiemonster

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Well, I guess about 5 people of the European and American servers can speak Korean. Don't think it's that strange. Probably many Europeans and Americans would then go there and talk English.

Sagius Truthbarron

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
Well, I guess about 5 people of the European and American servers can speak Korean. Don't think it's that strange. Probably many Europeans and Americans would then go there and talk English.
Most Koreans speak English; atleast to an extent. I doubt you have any idea how wide-spread the Korean interest and communication is, but alot of people can speak Korean. It's not some small, back woods little place as you may think.

Korea would rank in the top 10 most influential places in the world.
The United State's most friendly countries might even be summed up in the order of: England, Isreal, Japan, Italy, South Korea. With North Korea being Around the same range or higher with least friendly.

Sure, alot of people would go there and speak English, but do you think there is absolute silence of the English language in the Spanish Districts?

(Sorry if confusing, tired )

Uzul

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Arctic Tundra

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i think you can only change to korean server if you set your client to korean language first...
after doing so the option to join the korean server should be unlocked.

i know from several people who played on korean server for a while.

Sagius Truthbarron

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uzul
i think you can only change to korean server if you set your client to korean language first...
after doing so the option to join the korean server should be unlocked.

i know from several people who played on korean server for a while.
No, it's all Korean but there's still only two servers listed. Perhaps they bought the Korean version?

EternalTempest

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I agree for full openness to have access to all 3 servers.

Anet probable did it to cut down on support complaints for people that get stuck there who can't speak Korean. Where if you get stuck on Europe you can still do well with less language barrier problems.

I suspect they access to all there since most Korean’s speak English. Anet problem aligned the server choices based on if you get stuck, can you function on some language level.

Uzul

Uzul

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Arctic Tundra

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grmpf.. this was possible quite a while ago... i just checked myself - 2 servers only...

it should be possible or do they have a special tyria?
btw: anyone of you ever looked at the korean guildwars site.... hmmm tasty design.....
i wish i could read it thou'

Arturo02

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
like they could if Europe had it.
i like how you used if and not when. hehe

ecirbaf

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Sorry for waking up an old thread, but I DO USE THE SEARCH button.

So, in a similar vein, I guess I won't be able to play with Japanese friends either, when the game comes out in Japan on 20 January 2006 ?

I noticed already I can only relocate my account to the US.

I was excited about continue learning the language while playing with japanese people.

But what worries me is that even if I buy the game overseas, the japanese version, the game might well detect it is run in Europe and still prevent me from joinging Japanese districts then.

ANybody in CHinese/Japanese beta could shed a little light ?

I asked something of that effect at guildwars support site but no reply yet .. :/

I really want to play with japanese, using the windows "IME" to type kanji/hiragana/katakana.

Maxiemonster

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

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The international district can be used for that. Since I've seen Koreans in the international district alot, I'm pretty sure that Japanese people will get the same.

I hope that helped

Gaile Gray

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Join Date: Feb 2005

Hi, all,

Just a note to explain the differences in servers. In North America and in Europe, all players purchase the game and pay no subscription fee. In Korea, there are additional options. This is because while some players do purchase a copy of the games they play, many prefer to pay a small fee when they play in a gaming cafe. In order to allow Korean gamers to play via either method, a system was created that allows both options: game purchase or gaming cafe play. In order to keep things clear as far as billing systems and methods of purchase or payment, we can't allow migration between the territories.

In the future, other countries may also have the option of purchase or gaming cafe play. In that case, it is likely that migration or changing of territories will also be limited or disallowed so as to keep the financial matters clear and distinct. We're sorry if you see this as a divisive factor. That is absolutely not our intention. It's only by necessity that we have these systems, and only in the interests of allowing as many options as possible for all of our players.

Of course, the bright light in all of this is the International Districts, where people from all over the world get together, become friends, play together, and form international guilds or find a home for their already-created international guild. I encourage everyone to visit the International Districts -- I think they are one of the best things about Guild Wars!

NekoZ

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Then we should ATLEAST get the same events as korea *ahem* Coke event *ahem*

Gaile Gray

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Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoZ
Then we should ATLEAST get the same events as korea *ahem* Coke event *ahem*
We had preorder items. Korea did not. I've really answered this one a hundred times, and the answer isn't going to change.

The Korean Coke promotional items are not "overpowered" or "uber." They are simply different. I appreciate that some non-Korean players would like to have those items, but I know Korean players would have enjoyed the US or European preorder items. There will be other promotions like this in the future, and having some small differences in availability of items is just a reality of the global nature of Guild Wars. I hope that it won't be seen as a problem or an area of concern by anyone, for it truly should not be seen that way at all.

NekoZ

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Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

Well I don't know about others but I would rather have that 15^50 bow then an Ithas bow. But then again.. I don't have either lol.

Mayar third Keeper

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Just a little annoyance about the international districts. I cant stick to them. Everytime i move (or log out/in i dont know for sure) im back in my home district. It would be nice to stay in the international districts!

Maxiemonster

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayar third Keeper
Just a little annoyance about the international districts. I cant stick to them. Everytime i move (or log out/in i dont know for sure) im back in my home district. It would be nice to stay in the international districts!
I agree, maybe an option in the option menu that makes you able to select which one you want to pick as your standard type of district.

Snowman

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hi, all,

Just a note to explain the differences in servers. In North America and in Europe, all players purchase the game and pay no subscription fee. In Korea, there are additional options. This is because while some players do purchase a copy of the games they play, many prefer to pay a small fee when they play in a gaming cafe. In order to allow Korean gamers to play via either method, a system was created that allows both options: game purchase or gaming cafe play. In order to keep things clear as far as billing systems and methods of purchase or payment, we can't allow migration between the territories.
Can I just ask,

We have Cyber cafe's in the UK, and Im sure they exist elsewhere, why didnt you feel it nessasary to standardise the payment methods?

With your uber streaming technology, surly you could standardise all this.

I agree with the author of the thread, I dont think its devisive, but yea.. I really would love to play with Koreans, well actually I'm learning Japanese and was hoping to game with them once its released.

Will the japanese also be segregated?

ecirbaf

ecirbaf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

Fair enough about the International Districts.

What about communication with my Japanese pals ?

Will I be able to type in Japanese hiragana/katakana/kanji using the standard Windows IME in the EU/US version of Guild Wars ?

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
The United State's most friendly countries might even be summed up in the order of: England, Isreal, Japan, Italy, South Korea. With North Korea being Around the same range or higher with least friendly.
Haha I know the Americans love to hate Canadians, but Korea and Italy before Canada? Ouch! You just hurt my feelings!

Slade xTekno

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
Can I just ask,

We have Cyber cafe's in the UK, and Im sure they exist elsewhere, why didnt you feel it nessasary to standardise the payment methods?

With your uber streaming technology, surly you could standardise all this.
In Korea, you can tack your WoW monthly fee [although Lineage is still quite popular] onto your cell phone bill. Most people already know this, but South Korea is the most wired country in the world. Hell, the national sport is practically Starcraft.
Being Korean, I've been there, and LAN Cafes are equivalent to clubs in the US. People go there to hang out with friends, eat, play games, and yes, meet girls. People who watched the Korean GW tournament during the BWEs noticed that the teams were almost all co-ed, and it's true - girls there game almost as much as guys do.
A GameSpy article on Korea mentioned that at cafes, there are often pairs of computers with a loveseat for couples to game together - it's true. The same article cited Lineage raids being cafe v. cafe, with a commander standing on a table yelling orders - it's true [and awesome to witness].

In conclusion, Korea is the ugly duckling - it gets special priveleges because it's just so radically different when it comes to its attitude on PC gaming. The culture there practically revolves around their "PC bahngs," or LAN cafes. The companies can go through the hassle of setting up two different payment systems and still profit, something you couldn't do in most other countries.

Lexar

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Koreans may speak english, but isn't it selfish to go to their servers and suddenly speak in a foreign language? I don't think it would be very well-received if suddenly a lot of people started speaking french in the US districts. I don't think it really matters wether or not they speak english, it's their district, so it's their language you would be expected to speak.

Brknkybrd

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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I think the Korean ID number is also an issue. For any online game or service in Korea, you have to have a Korean ID number. Each of your forum accounts, game accounts, etc is tied to this, and the system makes sure 1 person only gets one account in each service -- it's a bit of a Big Brother thing so that your online history is trackable.

It also ensures that foriegners don't get into most of the online games while living in Korea (grrrr, why can't I try Lineage or MU, why am I reduced to using my girlfriend's ID to sign up for anything, grrr). Guild Wars was the first game I found that allowed me to play on American servers while in Korea, and not pay any monthly fee.

Teufel Eldritch

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Ahhhh you mean we can't go to Korean servers & annoy them with our trade spam?

Orbberius

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch
Ahhhh you mean we can't go to Korean servers & annoy them with our trade spam?
lol so true.

fenix

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Of course Koreans can speak English. Here are some good examples from Lions Arch:

"you need?"
"need sword axe sheild?"
"25k ok?"
"you buy?"

and the huge amount of swearing they spam to you when you don't buy their stuff. I don't see the big deal about going to Korean districts. If you're Korean and not in Korea, then sure, but the International Districts work fine for me.

Slade xTekno

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Quote:
Originally Posted by talon
"you need?"
"need sword axe sheild?"
"25k ok?"
"you buy?"
Many of those are actually Chinese.

banishd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ivy League [IVY]

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Guild Wars is Dead in Korea.
Therse only 1 Tombs district all day, theres 1 district in all outpsots and cities including major cities. They are even giving away free guild wars copies to try and get more people to play the game.

defrule

defrule

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Also, I want to know why we can't put numbers or other characters in our names?

Lady Cream

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cause too many kids would name their warrior "the 1337 ub3rt4nk"

yesitsrob

yesitsrob

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and because names don't have numbers in them

Snowman

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slade xTekno
Being Korean, I've been there, and LAN Cafes are equivalent to clubs in the US. People go there to hang out with friends, eat, play games, and yes, meet girls. People who watched the Korean GW tournament during the BWEs noticed that the teams were almost all co-ed, and it's true - girls there game almost as much as guys do.
wow, that sounds truley awesome, thanks for that reply!

so do you know if the Japanese are the same?

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

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Wow. Someone ressurected my thread and Gaile Gray posted in it O.o;;;

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

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So where have all the Koreans gone? What game is big there now?

FazeDx

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W/Mo

Starcraft is still really big. So is WoW and other Games.