AXES or SWORDS?
nooby nooby
what is better i got my axe mastery now but i was thinking on switching to sword is this worth?
Ole Man Bourbon
One way to find out. I'm gonna try all 3 with my warrior here before long. Collect all the elites and then just go crazy. :P
Been using axes myself, just got eviscerate. Good skill.
Been using axes myself, just got eviscerate. Good skill.
Moridan Fireheart
Axes and swords are basically the same except swords have 15-22 damage and axes have 8-26. I would go sword because it has less range in between the 15-22. My warrior has sword mastery and he rocks.
Swords all the way!
Swords all the way!
Plommon
well cleave id say is a better choice comboed with dismember as it only costs 4 adrenaline
Moridan Fireheart
Sever arterie then gash works wonders.
soz bout my spelling
soz bout my spelling
Plommon
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Axes and swords are basically the same except swords have 15-22 damage and axes have 8-26. I would go sword because it has less range in between the 15-22. My warrior has sword mastery and he rocks.
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Krank
Sword. Gotta love a sword, damage output is nice, constantly alot, axe has highs and lows but sword will stay a good amount (have your swordsmanship to 15-16 for it to really be better) and most of the sword attack skills are better (seeking blade/pure strike)
Moridan Fireheart
seeking blade is ok, pure strike rocks.
Plommon
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Sword. Gotta love a sword, damage output is nice, constantly alot, axe has highs and lows but sword will stay a good amount (have your swordsmanship to 15-16 for it to really be better) and most of the sword attack skills are better (seeking blade/pure strike)
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Pure strike and seeking blade cost 5 energy and recharge times are 4 and 8 seconds.... after using both twice your energy is spent and youre screwed.
Cleave costs 4 adrenaline!!!!! (you get adrenaline while attacking and getting hit) and you get 25+ damage to the original damage you had done.
Moridan Fireheart
Maybe so but swords are so much kewler than axes or hammers.
Warlawk
hammers are king for pvp, they offer some brutal disruption options. a well played hammer warrior makes me cringe when im on a mes/ele/mo/ne.
axes are king for damage, spamming cleave and penetrating, with disrupting and executioners thrown in for good measure... you can REALLY lay on some hurt.
swords are king for looking neat. they are passable in play, and ill freely admit hamstring is nice. galrath and dinal slash can put out some hurt in the right circumstances.... but axe gives you better ALL the time instead of every now and again. hammer is far better than just having hamstring if you want to slow down/disrupt your targets.
in short, play with sword if you want to look cool, play with hammer/axe if you want to be effective. ive used all 3 extensively in pvp and even occasionally in pve. sword can find a home in niche builds, and has a couple nice skills.... but in the hands of a skilled player, an axe or hammer warrior is infinately more dangerous.
axes are king for damage, spamming cleave and penetrating, with disrupting and executioners thrown in for good measure... you can REALLY lay on some hurt.
swords are king for looking neat. they are passable in play, and ill freely admit hamstring is nice. galrath and dinal slash can put out some hurt in the right circumstances.... but axe gives you better ALL the time instead of every now and again. hammer is far better than just having hamstring if you want to slow down/disrupt your targets.
in short, play with sword if you want to look cool, play with hammer/axe if you want to be effective. ive used all 3 extensively in pvp and even occasionally in pve. sword can find a home in niche builds, and has a couple nice skills.... but in the hands of a skilled player, an axe or hammer warrior is infinately more dangerous.
Moridan Fireheart
I agree but,
SWORD!!!!!!!!
COME ON! THEY ROCK!
SWORD!!!!!!!!
COME ON! THEY ROCK!
Racthoh
Sword is the more defensive way to go, and although it has spike potential with Final Thrust it takes 10 strikes to get it away. Hundred Blades... eh, you have cyclone axe, just as effective with less recharge time and it keeps your elite open. Hammer, knockdown... very effective, just wait till it happens to you.
This topic has gone into extensive lengths time and time again. If you do a search you can find a lot of details about.
Personally, sword.
This topic has gone into extensive lengths time and time again. If you do a search you can find a lot of details about.
Personally, sword.
XENOGEARSHARINGAN
lol swords are ok. i have experiments with all weapons and i like axes the best ive fought many sword warrior and own them with axes. i like to use executioner, penetration, eviscerate, axe rake, disruption axe, bersker.
eviserate is one of the best skills and usefull too. +40 damge and deepwound, followed by axe rake which criples them. then follow up with executioner, penetration. if you use berskers you can bust all of them out. right now i tried this new build i replaced disruption with apply poison, and put in cyclone axe. it works wonders. the target has 10% less healing, 20% less health, crippled, poisioned, and if you have a warrior buddy trow in bleeding.
eviserate is one of the best skills and usefull too. +40 damge and deepwound, followed by axe rake which criples them. then follow up with executioner, penetration. if you use berskers you can bust all of them out. right now i tried this new build i replaced disruption with apply poison, and put in cyclone axe. it works wonders. the target has 10% less healing, 20% less health, crippled, poisioned, and if you have a warrior buddy trow in bleeding.
Darksci
You forgot to mention that cyclone axe is quite neat. Its a proper area effect, unlike Hundred Blades which is also an elite.
Spike
I find swords work best for me and have yet to find any axe skill that beats final thurst. Aslo swords have a faster attack speed than an axe and a better dps.
twicky_kid
i think its all depends on your build.
axe skills have lots of conditions and can hit an area. axes can have more benifit from vapiric and zealous hilts. swords have more consistant dmg and dmg skills.
axe skills have lots of conditions and can hit an area. axes can have more benifit from vapiric and zealous hilts. swords have more consistant dmg and dmg skills.
I Am A Sasquatch
axes can inflict more conditions, and they have a greater variety of skills then swords.
axes are better.
axes are better.
nooby nooby
thanks guys!Im going to try sword then if im not satisfied ill switch back to axe 
Moridan Fireheart
Yes Go Sword!
thanks for agreing Racthot!
thanks for agreing Racthot!
Avantos
Actually, from the information I have, swords and axes attack at the same speed.
Axes are better for pure damage. If you want to just keep hitting for very large damage (higher critical hit chance, better damage skills), then go for axes. The problem for axes is its utility skills (crippling, interrupting, etc.) are adrenaline based. If someone casts a very disruptive spell to you (say, empathy or enfeeble and the like) immediately upon your reaching them, you cannot stop them.
Swords are good at controlled affliction. Savage slash is energy based and can disrupt any time you are up close. You can hamstring immediately and stop the enemy from running... but you do less damage (final thrust being the exception). For PvP, I personally do not like to rely on what order of action my OPPONENT decides to act. I like to decide when it is too late for them to run, or what skill I wish to shut down--rather than like axe where how long they take to do these things decides whether or not I can affect them.
The downside, of course, is sword abilities are basically all energy based, meaning you can be shut down by energy denial very easily.
Precision goes to sword while pure damage goes to axe. It truly depends on your playstyle.
Axes are better for pure damage. If you want to just keep hitting for very large damage (higher critical hit chance, better damage skills), then go for axes. The problem for axes is its utility skills (crippling, interrupting, etc.) are adrenaline based. If someone casts a very disruptive spell to you (say, empathy or enfeeble and the like) immediately upon your reaching them, you cannot stop them.
Swords are good at controlled affliction. Savage slash is energy based and can disrupt any time you are up close. You can hamstring immediately and stop the enemy from running... but you do less damage (final thrust being the exception). For PvP, I personally do not like to rely on what order of action my OPPONENT decides to act. I like to decide when it is too late for them to run, or what skill I wish to shut down--rather than like axe where how long they take to do these things decides whether or not I can affect them.
The downside, of course, is sword abilities are basically all energy based, meaning you can be shut down by energy denial very easily.
Precision goes to sword while pure damage goes to axe. It truly depends on your playstyle.
kirkmping
The axe skills by far make up for the low minimum damage. A combo with eviscerate, axe twist, and executioners strike leaves an enemy with a deep wound, weakness, and minus about 200 hp. Thats with only 12 in axe mastery. BTW the damage for 200 is what i achieve in pvp against a caster, but the eviscerate/axe twist combo is nice for really chopping down a warrior and virtually making him useless. I also use disrupting chop to disable to pesky res signets and those AoE ele spells. With 4 adrenaline based skills 3 will always be ready to go when you use one plus you conserve your energy. For PVE you can switch out disrupting chop and put cyclone axe for some AoE.
I also tried using a sword, but I found that the skills werent that effective. I definately advise axe over sword.
Hope this helped.
I also tried using a sword, but I found that the skills werent that effective. I definately advise axe over sword.
Hope this helped.
Tony Blair
Axes are far superior to swords due to better skills and criticals.
Doomlord_Slayermann
They are very well balanced. Sword is excellent against a single opponent while axe has a few AoE skills (namely Cyclone Axe).
They both work well for PvE. In PvP I find it helpful to have an axe, sword, and hammer warrior coordinating their attacks. Example:
1. Sword uses Hamstring to slow a spell caster so they can't run away.
2. Hammer interupts any healing (or just any) spells that the target attempts to use.
3. Axe beats the target's health below 50%
4. Sword uses Final Thrust to finish off the target
Of course, there are many other (and probably more effective) combos to use, but I would say that the three melee weapon types work best when used together.
They both work well for PvE. In PvP I find it helpful to have an axe, sword, and hammer warrior coordinating their attacks. Example:
1. Sword uses Hamstring to slow a spell caster so they can't run away.
2. Hammer interupts any healing (or just any) spells that the target attempts to use.
3. Axe beats the target's health below 50%
4. Sword uses Final Thrust to finish off the target
Of course, there are many other (and probably more effective) combos to use, but I would say that the three melee weapon types work best when used together.
Warlawk
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The downside, of course, is sword abilities are basically all energy based, meaning you can be shut down by energy denial very easily.
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few things make me laugh harder than dropping wither on a sword warrior and leaving them with zero energy regen for the next 36 seconds. most sword warriors only have one or 2 adren based skills (usually galrath and final thrust). wither em and hit em with a soothing images.... GG, that warrior is now useless, lol.
my above post may be a bit overly harsh to swords, they DO have some very nice skills, enough so that ive used it occasionally. but not nice enough to give up the obscene damage you get from axe, or the knockdowns of hammer. when im playing a soft target, i consider axe warriors vaugely dangerous, sword warriors an annoyance, and hammer warriors to be a threat only dehind mesmers! lol.
sino-soviet
I like axes more, but its not that they have better skills; they have MORE skills. Sword really doesn't have enough damaging skills in their lineup that can spammed. You do a sever + gash, and then are basically left using regular attacks for the rounds until you get a galrath in. Meanwhile, an axe warrior can spam penetrating blow, cleave, etc.
kirkmping
if anybody wants help with an build or capping axe elites just give me a shout in the game if im on my name is Kirk the Ruthless, add me to friends and ill cya on!
Anya
thank you for the discussion, i was wondering the same thing for my second character =)
I believe I'm going to focus on axes to get through PvE and switch to hammer once I get to strong PvP
I believe I'm going to focus on axes to get through PvE and switch to hammer once I get to strong PvP
Moridan Fireheart
Sword is always the greatest. My PvP char has dropped many hammer or axe weilders simply combining sever arterie(adrenalin) gash (") garlath slash and final thrust combo, nothing, nothing can beat that.
zeeke
go axe, cyclone axe is a good aoe for farming until u get 100blades, it has deep wounds and cirpples its a great weapon choice thats as fast as sword but can do more mxdmg.
kirkmping
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go axe, cyclone axe is a good aoe for farming until u get 100blades, it has deep wounds and cirpples its a great weapon choice thats as fast as sword but can do more mxdmg.
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XENOGEARSHARINGAN
lol yea an sword has less damge thatn axe if and ive taken down alot of blade warrior who try to use aretery, gash, final trhust and it dont work couse i use healing breeze plus my monks are always watching so its hard to land that final thrust. if you have 15 axe mastery, i do 120 damge wiht eviscerate to casters, same with executioner, and about 70 wiht penetration. and its true it adenaline base but not many people cary anti adrenaline couse they are expecting either, a sword warrior, or a hammer warrior. so they will try to burn their energy.
one combo ive tried is this one
executioner, penetration, eviscerate, axe rake, disruption, berserker, apply poison, troll urgeant.
if you do it apply poision use berserker, all skils be ready in about 4 sec. use eviscerate, axe rake, penetrastion, executioner. and if you have warrior in group i let them bleed them.
so you have a target who is, crippled, poisioned, deewound, bleeding and gettin slashed all over again and in 4 sec i use all skils again
but i hardly have to use them they are dead by then.
one combo ive tried is this one
executioner, penetration, eviscerate, axe rake, disruption, berserker, apply poison, troll urgeant.
if you do it apply poision use berserker, all skils be ready in about 4 sec. use eviscerate, axe rake, penetrastion, executioner. and if you have warrior in group i let them bleed them.
so you have a target who is, crippled, poisioned, deewound, bleeding and gettin slashed all over again and in 4 sec i use all skils again
but i hardly have to use them they are dead by then.
Brother Mhenlo
hello everyone yes im back to guru, i've changed my avatar and attitude, jk about the attitude part, but anyway i got a fissure helm.
o and about the question of is axe or sword better, take it from the best axe is best, great justice the enemy then eviscerate axe rake, and axe twist if you have room for it in your skill bar, hopefully by the time u get to weakening them your guild/team/group should have killed them, in PvE dotn worry about axe rake. i taek axe rake for pvp and axe twist for pve.
good to be back. from my long break.
o and about the question of is axe or sword better, take it from the best axe is best, great justice the enemy then eviscerate axe rake, and axe twist if you have room for it in your skill bar, hopefully by the time u get to weakening them your guild/team/group should have killed them, in PvE dotn worry about axe rake. i taek axe rake for pvp and axe twist for pve.
good to be back. from my long break.
Captain Arne Is PRO
I only read about four or five posts and didn't see it mentioned, but I was told by some nerd that Axes always inflict critical hits vs moving foes. So that would make Axes better for pvp, because you always hit critical vs running casters, not to mention they have better skills.
Brother Mhenlo
Ya axes are best for sure i didnt read any other posts becuase anyone who isnt me or doesnt agree with me is always, Always..wrong. so i dont bother reading b.s. and i dont care about the other side of the arguement or other peoples opinions. pretty much.