Some one is going to report me.
Devts-Waver
I need you help people. I was doing a run from Beacon's Perch to Droknar's forge. Anyway, we finished it and everyone wouldn't pay. One guy even went so far as to type things like 'you scammed me' after seeing that I was only 1k more expsensive over someone else. He then typed things acting as if i scammed him and ran. He said he was gonna report me to ANET. I didn't scam him, however I think that with the way he typed, it could easily convince someone that he was scammed and I was just playing dumb. Is there anyway for me to counter his report if he does? I don't want my account banned and for me to not have anyway to prove it false. Please, can someone help me?
EverBlue
Most likely if ANet does look into it, they will view their logs, and see that the guy was full of himself. You could also take your own screenshots of the message.
Mugon M. Musashi
lol, he's the one who used your services to get to the forge
Shandoo Bilari
Your screwed and you will probably go to jail, better to make that run to Mexico a few days early bud.
Aniewiel
Shhh...Shandoo.
You are fine, Devts. As said, IF (and that's a big IF) he reports you, and IF (another big IF) ANet reviews the logs, they will see that you did not scam him. Running is a legitimate "business" in GW so unless you conveniently left out some other facts, you're fine.
You are fine, Devts. As said, IF (and that's a big IF) he reports you, and IF (another big IF) ANet reviews the logs, they will see that you did not scam him. Running is a legitimate "business" in GW so unless you conveniently left out some other facts, you're fine.
Sekkira
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Originally Posted by Shandoo Bilari
Your screwed and you will probably go to jail, better to make that run to Mexico a few days early bud.
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Actually, it's really your word against his, backed by the logs. Don't even bat an eye.
Shadow_Avenger
Yep, A.net is like Big Brother. The are watching you. 
Every single chat is logged and dated on file to be looked over. They cannot see you ingame due to the instances, we maybe in town areas, but not in adventure areas, but they are able to track and monitor all conversations through chat.
A.Nets says WE ARE WATCHING YOU. * evil chuckle *
Every single chat is logged and dated on file to be looked over. They cannot see you ingame due to the instances, we maybe in town areas, but not in adventure areas, but they are able to track and monitor all conversations through chat.
A.Nets says WE ARE WATCHING YOU. * evil chuckle *
Devts-Waver
well thats the problem. if they can't track in adventure areas, they will probally side with him. i dunno. hopefully this will all turn out right.
and btw, how in the world will they find what they are looking for if the log has everysingle thing done in the chat room? sounds pretty big to me.
and btw, how in the world will they find what they are looking for if the log has everysingle thing done in the chat room? sounds pretty big to me.
Damon Windwalker
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Originally Posted by Shandoo Bilari
Your screwed and you will probably go to jail, better to make that run to Mexico a few days early bud.
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Algren Cole
when are people gonna realize that ArenaNet doesn't care about scammers? if you get scammed that's your fault...welcome to life.
stop worrying about it...nothing is going to happen.
stop worrying about it...nothing is going to happen.
Devts-Waver
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
when are people gonna realize that ArenaNet doesn't care about scammers? if you get scammed that's your fault...welcome to life.
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Lorelei
"you've got scammed"
Damon Windwalker
So I do have one serious question about this whole thing - and I don't mean it to be accusatory....
But something sounds odd about this story to me. You ran people to the forge - no-one in the group would pay, and 1 person accused you of scamming?
It sounds like there's more to the story to me. Sure - people are going to scam you when you do that kind of run - but for everyone to scam you, and 1 person to accuse you of scamming?
Now, I'm not saying that you were - but is there anything about this whole run where your customers weren't satisfied or were suspicious of you for some reason?
But something sounds odd about this story to me. You ran people to the forge - no-one in the group would pay, and 1 person accused you of scamming?
It sounds like there's more to the story to me. Sure - people are going to scam you when you do that kind of run - but for everyone to scam you, and 1 person to accuse you of scamming?
Now, I'm not saying that you were - but is there anything about this whole run where your customers weren't satisfied or were suspicious of you for some reason?
noblepaladin
I don't think A.Net does anything about scammers unless one person gets reported repeatedly. I'm sure they get 1000 reports a day, with most of them coming from idiots, so it's impossible to follow up on all of them. However, if they get 10 on the same person (all coming from different players), which is quite possible when someone goes on a scamming spree, they will probably check the logs and do something.
Shandoo Bilari
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Originally Posted by Damon Windwalker
I can do the Mexico run for only 5 plat per person....
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Anyways to the OP i wouldnt even give it another thought, I guarontee no action will be taken unless there is some blatant text with you stating how you wtfpned him for a large sum of cash and then bolted.
Lorelei
Okie, now a tip for wanna-be contreband/trafficker here:
- plan your route so that you could stop at a quiet place (half-way) and collect half of the money.
- disclose that you need half the money half-way, and the rest at destination.
- disclose that you would be back at the stated district if someone got dropped and you would
do the run again until they got passed.
- plan your route so that you could stop at a quiet place (half-way) and collect half of the money.
- disclose that you need half the money half-way, and the rest at destination.
- disclose that you would be back at the stated district if someone got dropped and you would
do the run again until they got passed.
Dax
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I don't think A.Net does anything about scammers unless one person gets reported repeatedly. I'm sure they get 1000 reports a day, with most of them coming from idiots, so it's impossible to follow up on all of them. However, if they get 10 on the same person (all coming from different players), which is quite possible when someone goes on a scamming spree, they will probably check the logs and do something.
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Considering it is only half of the story he might have a reasonable reason not to pay.
Darkest Dawn
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Originally Posted by Mugon M. Musashi
lol, he's the one who used your services to get to the forge
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LOL, The dude scammed you! He freaked out so he wouldn't have to pay and got a free ride!
Old Dood
I am curious. How much are you charging? If someone accepts your "service" then they should pay you. A Deal is a Deal in my book. I have seen people asking for 5K and up for the trip. I will call them on it in the open chat. That is just plain too high. 2K is more then fair. I had a guy do it for us at 1.5K. (These are our second set of characters, I finished the game fully with my first) He was a decent person too. He would stop and Recharge/Heal and then show us the view. Explain what he was using as skills/spells as well. So I gave him a full 2K. He didn't want it at first, but I told him he earned the "tip". This was just a few days ago too. After the update to the run. Mega-Mobs of bad guys. I made it half way.
Devts-Waver
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Originally Posted by Damon Windwalker
It sounds like there's more to the story to me. Sure - people are going to scam you when you do that kind of run - but for everyone to scam you, and 1 person to accuse you of scamming?
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Lorelei
Then you are scammed for sure.
Teh Azman
People like that suck. Even if you did get suspended, believe me, first offense isn't so bad. I got reported for cussing at a leecher and i got suspended...For the damning period of 3 hours.
Digital Bath
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Originally Posted by Damon Windwalker
I can do the Mexico run for only 5 plat per person....
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Lorelei
Usually it is the reverse, running FROM Mexico 
Wa$d
I had another person like this that i ran, really he was just dumb, well we get to the camp easy and im doing a 2k at campand 2k at forge deal, and im like "pay time" and he says i dont think so i will pay at droknars and then i said no and pasted my pay scheaduel and if he didnt pay i would kik him. So he didnt and i kiked him and he said he would report me, and i was "ok, thats fine it wont do anything. Then this other guy in the group payed for his share when we got to the forge and i was happy
Plommon
wow i think id be pretty pissed being an A-net dev....the complaints you hear everyone sending must be reaching 7 digit
Devts-Waver
so how many times can you get suspended before you are banned?
Lorelei
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wow i think id be pretty pissed being an A-net dev....the complaints you hear everyone sending must be reaching 7 digit
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Paul Templar
I think you have to look at the type of person who would want to be run to the Forge etc
Most are looking to take the easy way rather than apply themselves with working through the game the hard way.
The easy way for him from paying you was to run around screaming "scammer"
Its not surprising the number of twits running around screaming scammers noobs when they themselves only show they have no idea what they are talking about and show themselves up as being twits not to be taken seriously
(most not all)
These same people get one good find in mission with a group then try and sell it for a stupid price (whos the scammer)
Thats the problem with running is u take the risk of being scammed by some players
Sorry I cant be bothered entertaining people like that
Most are looking to take the easy way rather than apply themselves with working through the game the hard way.
The easy way for him from paying you was to run around screaming "scammer"
Its not surprising the number of twits running around screaming scammers noobs when they themselves only show they have no idea what they are talking about and show themselves up as being twits not to be taken seriously
(most not all)
These same people get one good find in mission with a group then try and sell it for a stupid price (whos the scammer)
Thats the problem with running is u take the risk of being scammed by some players
Sorry I cant be bothered entertaining people like that
Talesin Darkbriar
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Originally Posted by Devts-Waver
I need you help people. I was doing a run from Beacon's Perch to Droknar's forge. Anyway, we finished it and everyone wouldn't pay. One guy even went so far as to type things like 'you scammed me' after seeing that I was only 1k more expsensive over someone else. He then typed things acting as if i scammed him and ran. He said he was gonna report me to ANET. I didn't scam him, however I think that with the way he typed, it could easily convince someone that he was scammed and I was just playing dumb. Is there anyway for me to counter his report if he does? I don't want my account banned and for me to not have anyway to prove it false. Please, can someone help me?
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. . . So you were engaged in an activity that may be against the spirit of the game, and these people reported you?
Well, you are no more guilty than they are - for having you run them.
If you get banned, they should be banned as well.
Otherwise, I wouldn't lose any sleep; it appears ANet is simply trying to "discourage" the practice as opposed to outright punishing it.
Talesin
tuskenraid
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Originally Posted by Paul Templar
I think you have to look at the type of person who would want to be run to the Forge etc
Most are looking to take the easy way rather than apply themselves with working through the game the hard way. The easy way for him from paying you was to run around screaming "scammer" Its not surprising the number of twits running around screaming scammers noobs when they themselves only show they have no idea what they are talking about and show themselves up as being twits not to be taken seriously (most not all) These same people get one good find in mission with a group then try and sell it for a stupid price (whos the scammer) Thats the problem with running is u take the risk of being scammed by some players Sorry I cant be bothered entertaining people like that |
Yes this guy who scammed the OP is a prick and should probably be suspended for jumping out of an agreed upon deal, but you need to mellow out. Besides if you "can't be bothered" then why post in this thread.
Jeez.... people sometimes!!! *walks away mumbling, shaking head*
Sir Skullcrasher
just to warn guys who offer service to run people to forge or any other place. Sometime, you might meet people that is dumb or not wanting to pay you and use the excuse of "omg.. i got scammed" to try and get off your case.. so hopefully a-net won't ban you just because people don't like the price of 1k that your charging.
trust me, i seen to many freeloader out there that want to be ran to certain places and not wanting to pay golds for it.
trust me, i seen to many freeloader out there that want to be ran to certain places and not wanting to pay golds for it.
=HT=Ingram
Anet is not going to lock you out for making runs and charging for it. if you want to take that risk more power to you. This is not a scam situation. Typical scams get a warning e-mail from Anet and they you know that they actually do watch the logs. This kind of thing is not something they care one way or another about because it is not integral to the game as a whole, and is not even encouraged. But it is not a problem for most. only a few that make money off this kind of action feel that it is worth attention. In any case its nothing you need to worry about Anet is not so stupid to just ban an account on the word of just one player...
Devts-Waver
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Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar
. . . So you were engaged in an activity that may be against the spirit of the game, and these people reported you?
Well, you are no more guilty than they are - for having you run them. If you get banned, they should be banned as well. Otherwise, I wouldn't lose any sleep; it appears ANet is simply trying to "discourage" the practice as opposed to outright punishing it. Talesin |
Denny Pace
People are funny. I was slumming in Yak's Bend the other day, and there were bunches of people, low levels, wanting to be run all the way to the Temple, so they could (no doubt) die in the UW or FoW. Now, I wonder:
1) How many of those people actually thought they'd complete the entire run?
2) How many people actually took pre-payments for the run and laughed when everyone died, or bailed after they got the prepay?
3) How many runners, like yourself, saw nothing but empty pockets for the failed run?
I don't know who's more pathetic: people who spam every town with 'Will run to xxx for 1k' or the poor saps that get taken by unscrupulous runners.
In general, I think running for cash is just ridiculous, and everyone involved deserves what they get (or don't get).
1) How many of those people actually thought they'd complete the entire run?
2) How many people actually took pre-payments for the run and laughed when everyone died, or bailed after they got the prepay?
3) How many runners, like yourself, saw nothing but empty pockets for the failed run?
I don't know who's more pathetic: people who spam every town with 'Will run to xxx for 1k' or the poor saps that get taken by unscrupulous runners.
In general, I think running for cash is just ridiculous, and everyone involved deserves what they get (or don't get).
Weezer_Blue
Actually, he scammed you. That sucks. I don't think A.Net is stupid enough to ban you for another player's stupidity, though.
Gedscho
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Posts like these make me see why crack is illegal.
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Aria
Since this thread is really going nowhere, and is becoming rapidly infested with off-topic/spam posts, I'm going to close it.
To the OP, ANet takes its bannings and investigations very seriously. Chances are, the guy won't even report it. If he does, it does him more harm than it does you. Don't worry -- if you didn't do anything wrong (and forge running is by no means forbidden), everything's fine.
To the OP, ANet takes its bannings and investigations very seriously. Chances are, the guy won't even report it. If he does, it does him more harm than it does you. Don't worry -- if you didn't do anything wrong (and forge running is by no means forbidden), everything's fine.