Guild Wars tech question

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hello, this is my first post, and I am pretty excited about Guild Wars. I have read the system specs, and i think my computer will run GW fine, but I wan't to make sure, because I havn't played the game yet.
My system specs are:

Pentium 4 processer, 1.70 GHz
256 mb of RAM
Nvidia GeForce 2 MX

I do have a stick of 256 mb of ram that I havn't installed, so please tell me if I should install it, and also, if you need any more info about my computer to tell me if my computer will run GW smoothly, then please post and let me know hwat you need to know.

Thanks, and hopefully I will see you all on 4-28-05 !

Im not sure if I have an integrated graphics card, nor what one is. Under specs I was able to see DAC Type:Integrated RAMDAC, does that mean I have a integrated graphics card? thanks

corax5

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

If youv got that extra RAM you should definantly put that in, that should really help, and I think you may need to upgrade your graphics card, try getting the GW client up and checking the quality of the login screen.

Ren Falconhand

Ren Falconhand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Passed out on my Keyboard from lack of sleep from playing GW too much

The Harpers

R/Mo

I have and older card ATI 9000 and GW runs Great on my machine

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

thanks.

One more question...

Mr graphics card runs games like unreal 2k4, and SW:BF fine, and i have the most recent drivers. Do you still think I should upgrade my graphics card, and how do I update my graphics card, just buy a new one and take hte old one out and put the new one in?

thanks again

Ren Falconhand

Ren Falconhand

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Passed out on my Keyboard from lack of sleep from playing GW too much

The Harpers

R/Mo

baiscly yes The new card should come with a net set of drivers for it but it doesn't hurt to check the makers website too. On some of the Really High end cards you may want to think about an extra fan or something to cool it.

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

sorry to keep asking questions, but updating graphics cards might end up being expensive, do you think I could get away with playing the game on low setting with this graphics card without having many problems?

ZennZero

ZennZero

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Join Date: Apr 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alias_X
sorry to keep asking questions, but updating graphics cards might end up being expensive, do you think I could get away with playing the game on low setting with this graphics card without having many problems?
You should be fine at lower settings. It's not going to be the most beautiful thing in the world, but it should certainly be playable.

Alias_X

Alias_X

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Join Date: Apr 2005

thanks, that confirms it, I will buy Guild Wars. Hopefully, I will see you all in it

Ren Falconhand

Ren Falconhand

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Passed out on my Keyboard from lack of sleep from playing GW too much

The Harpers

R/Mo

see how the client runs first. If you are happy with the looks and the Lag OK then fine. Remember you do not have to buy the most expensive card out there. mine was only $99 and that was a about a year and a half ago. Also here is a Tech question does your motherboard support AGP cards. If so then you def want to get one because they are sooo much faster and better. But all that is up to you.

corax5

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

you could play the game with your current card and POSSIBLY have to lower the settings, but if you do you may end up missing out on some of the amazing GW art etc. Plus you can get a fairly good graphics card for relativly cheap, I live in the UK and I can get quite new cards for less than £50. But remember that until you've actualy tried the game, (like I said the client login page is a good place to get an idea), you can't be certain what the game will be like.

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

yeah, but how can I try the game without purchasing it. Once i purchase it, open it up, install it, and then play it to see fi it will work, then I won't be able to return it if it doesn't work.

Ren Falconhand

Ren Falconhand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Passed out on my Keyboard from lack of sleep from playing GW too much

The Harpers

R/Mo

go to www.Guildwars.com and download the client

you will not be able to play but you can see how it would look. For dial up I should take about 45min I think

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ren Falconhand
I have and older card ATI 9000 and GW runs Great on my machine
actually the gf 2 is almost 2 years older than the 9000 (i still have it in a bag in a drawer here(2000 as 2002 for the 9000)

also an 8 mb rage card

edit

your 9000 is the recommended as opposed to the minimum

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

I can't find where to download the client lol ?!!?

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

nevermind, I overlooked hte big obvious button that said CLIENT DOWNLOAD

Ren Falconhand

Ren Falconhand

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Passed out on my Keyboard from lack of sleep from playing GW too much

The Harpers

R/Mo

it is on the left side of the screen on www.guilswars.com just scroll down a bit. click on "download the Client" and follow ithe instructions. it is 73KB

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Download complete woopeee

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

ok, a message came up that said I have an unsupported video card!?

I checkied the list and sure enough, nvidia geforce 2 is unsupported

http://www.guildwars.com/support/uns...-hardware.html
referr to above link.

so i click continue anyways, and it opened up and it looks great, no lag, and runs fine.

what does unsupported graphics card mean, and will i run into any problems because of that?

because to me it looked fine

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

that is kilo byte not mega byte so people are not scared off

however if you start on the 27th before you get the retail box with the cds in it be prepared for a big download

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

someone please respond

PawnBoy

PawnBoy

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canada, Ontario

Team Backspace

N/R

I believe that "Unsupported Graphics Card" means that you MAY run into trouble with your card, and if you do, they can't really do anything to help you. If it runs...it runs, and congrats to you.

OrangeArrow

Flame Bait

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mass

Mo/Me

I think unsupported graphics seems to be the ones that lack the pixel shaders needed for the neat glow eddetcs though for some reason the 4mx is included o well

Darkmane

Darkmane

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Join Date: Feb 2005

It is kinda funny they have a list of unsupported. But no list of supported. So.. no one knows what they should upgrade to. I can run the game on my computer which is on the list of unsupported. It could be that they plan on having a future 'upgrade' that will render runing the game on these 'unsupported cards' useless. But I do not know for sure.

Lunarbunny

Lunarbunny

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Seattle, WA, USA [PST | GMT -8]

Ready and Willing [RAWR]

If you want you could cruise through the graphics card section of www.pricewatch.com. Just make sure that the company you're buying from has a good number of positive reviews on pricewath before you buy at their site.

As far as drivers, you may want to check out www.guru3d.com. They have some later drivers than the manufacturer's "official" release currently on the site. That does mean that you may have to try different drivers from guru3d; sometimes the build sucks and you'll have to use a different one.

EDIT: about the IGP, check if there is an extra RGB out on the mobo. If so, go to BIOS and disable it or turn it down to the lowest memory setting possible. IGP usually leeches off of system memory instead of having its own seperate memory like a normal PCI/AGP/PCI-E expansion card.

Sin

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Joint :p

Alias_X, it seems to me unsupported is just to cover those people who have that card and it doesn't work (i.e. known issues with the card or drivers) or who will contact tech about, for example: "The screen is flashing when I run the client...I can see the background but it flashes" With the latest and "greatest" nvidia drivers and anti-aliasing set to 2 my gforce 5200 fx does exactly that! Hahaha! What is more odd is anti-aliasing set to 4 and it doesn't do it....No I don't wanna "go figure" that!

Please don't recommend alternate drivers as I am in windows 98 SE also and most of them don't have a version for me, besides 61.76 works fine. No lag, no flashing, no problems. Anyway, I hope you can see one possible reason for the unsupported list: So people will go buy something not on that list if they have a problem and aren't computer saavy enough to figure it out. Though this may not be the exact intention of the unsupported list, it certainly is a reasonable expectation and appears to be the common outcome.

Also some times people won't see a texture or some shading effect but they won't even know what they are missing. The developer knows from comparison to other in-house systems which are supported.

corax5

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

I was just checking my current graphics card driver and iv got 66.93, I want to get a newer version but im not sure which to get, iv got a GeForceFX 5200 and XP, what do you all think is hte best one to get?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by corax5
I was just checking my current graphics card driver and iv got 66.93, I want to get a newer version but im not sure which to get, iv got a GeForceFX 5200 and XP, what do you all think is hte best one to get?
note the 5 FX line has a problem just a moment while i get the cure for you

I am using a NVidia GeForce FX video card and am having trouble seeing some terrain features.

There is a known issue with NVidia GeForce FX video cards (GPUs) and driver version 61.77 when the user has changed "Image Settings" to "High performance". Some of the problems include missing terrain. The solution is to change your video settings to "High quality". To do this, follow these instructions: On Windows XP:
Open Display Properties control panel
Click Settings tab
Click Advanced button
Click GeForce "Version" tab
Select Performance and Quality Settings in left window
In the Global Driver Settings window select Image Settings
Move the slider to the right to "High quality"

Sin

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Joint :p

corax, the more recent nvidia drivers seem troublsome--like they hired the pre ATI 9000 card programmers. I use 61.77 without a problem, if anything I'd suggest going backwards to that version as anything after that seems buggy.

My specs...

1.3 ghz Celeron Talatin core
512/133 ram
nvidia 5200 Fx 128 video ram


*Edit* Hahaha see I never went for high performance. No wonder. However when you search around you find people with the later drivers than 61.77 having fan problems and apparently that was remedied in the lastest nvidia drivers released a couple days ago. However, when I put AA at 2 on the latest drivers the screen flashes, whereas the old drivers no problem at all. I'd strongly suggest sticking with 61.77 and just putting the slider at quality. I dont' even have it at High Quality.