Petition to let me attack with my fists
Mithie
Is there any reason you *must* use a weapon to smack things around? My monk knows kung fu. He should be able to Bruce Lee people instead of flinging silly little glowballs out of a fairy wand.
Shamblemonkee
They aren't silly little glowballs they are unstable orbs of raw energy created from potents magics fired from enchanted weapons that will rend your flesh!!!
The idea of a fist fighter beating on an armor plated warrior makes me smile.... 6ft burly warrior looms tall while *dink, dink, dink din-din-dink* little monk chips away at his armor before aforementioned warrior swings his sword. No more kung-fu.
Tongue firmly in cheek.
Seriously: I think a kung-fu style of fighting would be hard pressed to fit into this kindof world. A rogue / assassin type maybe.
The idea of a fist fighter beating on an armor plated warrior makes me smile.... 6ft burly warrior looms tall while *dink, dink, dink din-din-dink* little monk chips away at his armor before aforementioned warrior swings his sword. No more kung-fu.
Tongue firmly in cheek.
Seriously: I think a kung-fu style of fighting would be hard pressed to fit into this kindof world. A rogue / assassin type maybe.
Mithie
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Originally Posted by Shamblemonkee
They aren't silly little glowballs they are unstable orbs of raw energy created from potents magics fired from enchanted weapons that will rend your flesh!!!
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Shamblemonkee
Yes that is true, I quite like the /excited emote for them too, although depending on your armor (or lack of) it can be indecent enough to make an elementalist blush. 
Anyway back on topic, are you talking about just letting people fight with hands, or the creation of a new class?
Anyway back on topic, are you talking about just letting people fight with hands, or the creation of a new class?
Mithie
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Originally Posted by Shamblemonkee
Yes that is true, I quite like the /excited emote for them too, although depending on your armor (or lack of) it can be indecent enough to make an elementalist blush.
Anyway back on topic, are you talking about just letting people fight with hands, or the creation of a new class? |
I don't care if I do 2 damage, but it would be fun. Can you imagine a Me/W doing 34 damage per hit by his fists with IW?
Crimson_1190
personally, I think my cane (with matching mesmer accesories) makes me look exceedingly metrosexual ....come one the glowballs (or whatever they are called) just add to it...
Mugon M. Musashi
I'd like to be able to punch things
let's say with a damage of 0-1
sometimes you just know you are going to die
in these cases I'd like to be able to go hit the bad guys with my fists
let's say with a damage of 0-1
sometimes you just know you are going to die
in these cases I'd like to be able to go hit the bad guys with my fists
Mithie
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Originally Posted by Crimson_1190
personally, I think my cane (with matching mesmer accesories) makes me look exceedingly metrosexual ....come one the glowballs (or whatever they are called) just add to it...
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Lorelei
African tribal masks, or Japanese opera mask? That would be cool
Edit: but what's wrong with custume party? Toga! Toga!
Edit: but what's wrong with custume party? Toga! Toga!
Mithie
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Originally Posted by Lorelei
African tribal masks, or Japanese opera mask? That would be cool
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Shwitz
Sure, let the characters beat away on things with their fists. However, should they make contact with something hard or rock/steel, they should take take damage (even more damage than they cause to their target). It'd be funny. "I keep hitting him, but I broke my hands on his platemail!"
Haroldo
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Oh yea, Mesmer's wear hose (like pantyhose)
derrtyboy69
hmmm hitting a warrior in think steel with your fists, smart. your bones would shatter, and then some1 would walk up and cut your defensless self to pieces with a sword
TeamEllis
Lol it would be cool lol. Fightoing with fists. Then have an item on the market called brass knuckles or spikey gloves makeing punching some deadly crap!
Gedscho
i think kung fu (or jeet kun do :P) would fit perfectly in the smiter style. you know, throwing back damage...
(well maybe thats NOT exactly what those styles actually do
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in fact, first thing i tried with my monk was to unequip his weapon and try to go melee. but he would just stand there, gwen jumping happily around.
i see only one problem: no more safety net for peace and harmony :P
(well maybe thats NOT exactly what those styles actually do
)in fact, first thing i tried with my monk was to unequip his weapon and try to go melee. but he would just stand there, gwen jumping happily around.
i see only one problem: no more safety net for peace and harmony :P
Lorelei
Judo! Monk try to throw Charrs with big hammer off balance!
Iceciro
I think they should be able to go kung-fu on thier enemies too, is there any reason EVERY SINGLE caster class has to have a bloody wand or staff? I think it would be cool to have monks fight barehanded, perhaps base that damage on Smiting Prayers?
GW Insomniac
It'd be fun to think of 'chop socky' monks roaming the countryside...but not very practicle.
A lot of people,who opt for a monk primary,do so for the 'hands off' healing/protecting abilities that come with the profession - making a monk a 'hands on' (literally) fighter would mean having to include new skills and armour in order to carry off the new persona - not to mention completely altering the balance of the game.
And what then of people who take monk as a secondary?
Burly warriors,dressed up to the nines in heavy duty armour,prancing round like a pyjama clad Bruce Lee?...can't see it myself.
A lot of people,who opt for a monk primary,do so for the 'hands off' healing/protecting abilities that come with the profession - making a monk a 'hands on' (literally) fighter would mean having to include new skills and armour in order to carry off the new persona - not to mention completely altering the balance of the game.
And what then of people who take monk as a secondary?
Burly warriors,dressed up to the nines in heavy duty armour,prancing round like a pyjama clad Bruce Lee?...can't see it myself.
Mesmer1287
I have an Illusionary Warrior build for my mesmer and it would be great to deal chaos damage with my fists
btw, look at smiting monks. All good smiting monks get right up there in the pack of meat sheilds taking hits left a right to dish out 100s of damage. Monks are already in the heat of battle, yet no one realizes it. The same with the Illusionary Warrior, a Mesmer Melee build.
btw, look at smiting monks. All good smiting monks get right up there in the pack of meat sheilds taking hits left a right to dish out 100s of damage. Monks are already in the heat of battle, yet no one realizes it. The same with the Illusionary Warrior, a Mesmer Melee build.
Iceciro
Hey, don't knock wierd builds, I won the HoH with a PUG and using a Melee Mesmer, Me/W, and I DIDNT use IW, I carried a big ass scarry hammer and stomped.
I want this in so bad. Why would it be bad for a warrior to hit stuff with his fists? Maybe make an armor weight req, so you'd have to be wearing a Gladiator's armor or something... light... to Bruce Lee fight.
I want this in so bad. Why would it be bad for a warrior to hit stuff with his fists? Maybe make an armor weight req, so you'd have to be wearing a Gladiator's armor or something... light... to Bruce Lee fight.
Mithie
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Originally Posted by derrtyboy69
hmmm hitting a warrior in think steel with your fists, smart. your bones would shatter, and then some1 would walk up and cut your defensless self to pieces with a sword
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Iceciro
Also, I suggested a fix to the above problem, by linking it to smiting prayers, your monk isnt hitting with JUST his fists, he's using Balthazaar-Powered Butt Kicking Fists of Fury.
Bohr Nal
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Originally Posted by Mithie
Is there any reason you *must* use a weapon to smack things around? My monk knows kung fu. He should be able to Bruce Lee people instead of flinging silly little glowballs out of a fairy wand.
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And 4k for burn treatments from injuries relating to man handling inferno imps and titans...lol.
Iceciro
Again, the monk is using his fists as a conduit for smiting magic. He doesnt feel any of that.
Mithie
Yes, that's right. It's Balthazar who's actually doing the punching, you're just cheering him on.
Omega Complex
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Originally Posted by Mithie
Yes, that's right. It's Balthazar who's actually doing the punching, you're just cheering him on.
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Iceciro
Not quite that much - we're looking at 18-28 range for 12 in smiting prayers.
Mithie
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Originally Posted by Omega Complex
W00t! You punch, nice pretty blinding blue light, deal 140 damage to target foe, yes, i like that idea very much....
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kg_lildude1
i made this thread
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=38364
for a fighting/martial arts build, hope u guys like it, because it's a start
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=38364
for a fighting/martial arts build, hope u guys like it, because it's a start
Iceciro
We dont really want a whole new class, we want monks to use what they do when they /dance offensively.
DrSLUGFly
I feel the best fighting style for the monk would be Tai Chi or Aikido (Hapkido in Korea). Or quite less cool but fitting since it matches the /dance, caparia (sp?).
All classes should have some sort of unarmed combat option. Their damage decided by class and their estimated max dmg for their level (based on some common skill perhaps)
Monk - 60%
Warrior - 40%
Ranger - 35%
Mesmer - 30%
Elementalist/Necromancer - 20%
many will cry that this is unfair, but how could a wizard who spends most of his youth nose buried in books hit as hard or effectively as a warrior who spends most of his youth wailing on strung pigs in his father's shed?
All classes should have some sort of unarmed combat option. Their damage decided by class and their estimated max dmg for their level (based on some common skill perhaps)
Monk - 60%
Warrior - 40%
Ranger - 35%
Mesmer - 30%
Elementalist/Necromancer - 20%
many will cry that this is unfair, but how could a wizard who spends most of his youth nose buried in books hit as hard or effectively as a warrior who spends most of his youth wailing on strung pigs in his father's shed?
Blow_Holez
I like the Balthazar powered fist idea. Also, even if the monk wasn't using balthazars power to punch, why can't he just puch that big ungly warrior in the throat where there is no armor? Or the Eyes? Those could be new skills... punch in the throat, the casters cant use spells since they can't chant anything, or the warrior cant use shouts. Punching in the eyes causes blindness. lastly, a kick in the back of the knees casues crippled. Anyway, the monk could punch the warriors in armor at the weak spots! The possibilties are endless.
gosl
People can't really argue about fist hitting armor is not plausible, because obviously some aspects of reality are thrown out the window in video games. GW is no exception. You still typically have to hit someone 10+ arrows to kill them, or hit someone numerous times with a sword/axe. In real life, one good hit of a war hammer is enough to knock someone senseless (if not death), but not in GW. So monks being able to use open hand techniques is not that far-fetch, IMO.
When I first played GW as a monk, I was hoping to find at least a staff for melee attacks, but only staves I've found shoots magic missiles.
Anyways, I like that idea of open hand fighting for monks. Or at least, a bo or a jo weapon for melee. I've always thought of monks as separate from wizards and sorceres (and mesmers in GW).
When I first played GW as a monk, I was hoping to find at least a staff for melee attacks, but only staves I've found shoots magic missiles.
Anyways, I like that idea of open hand fighting for monks. Or at least, a bo or a jo weapon for melee. I've always thought of monks as separate from wizards and sorceres (and mesmers in GW).
Iceciro
And another thing about armor, monks would have no trouble beating on females of ANY class, except perhaps certain female armor styles for warriors- those things show so much skin, a Mesmer could hit them with his fist and deal damage.
And actually, I'm against Warriors having open hand, really. They don't train in open-hand melee like a monk does, they train in beat stuff senseless with a weapon in hand.
And actually, I'm against Warriors having open hand, really. They don't train in open-hand melee like a monk does, they train in beat stuff senseless with a weapon in hand.