Last update killed another fun aspect of game?

Hakaido

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

KL

W/R

The so called *equipment exploit* they closed during the last update....

Did it also screw around with refund points? Up untill a day or two ago your refund points would be reset to 24 of 24 any time you go and switch your secondary back and forth. And now it doesn't do that anymore.

To me that's not an exploit. I was having a lot of fun with my character running around, trying out different skills and hunting for each proffesions elite skills... Since I can no longer reset my refund points I'm not longer able to experiment with different skills and magic schools.. Unless I go hunt and then get them back slowly per each 250Xp earned....

So much for that.... Hey thanks for screwing up yet another fun aspect of the game.

Tellani Artini

Tellani Artini

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

America

The Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS]

R/

I think that was changed long ago. Back around the time of the mirror fight XP exploit.

Izzy Izumi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/N

Look at it this way, it's a way to farm while getting those refund points back!

Arcador

Arcador

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

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R/N

Ok, Hakaido, relax, grow up, find a job, get fired for no reason and come talk again.

Mumblyfish

Mumblyfish

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Blighty

Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcador
Ok, Hakaido, relax, grow up, find a job, get fired for no reason and come talk again.
Drop the attitude, sunshine. This was... "fixed" some time ago, granted, but it's a legitimate complaint.

Lorelei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere unexpected

250XP isn't too much to complaint about...

gosl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorelei
250XP isn't too much to complaint about...
Agree. That would be ummm ... 2 1/2 dessert minotaurs solo'ed.

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorelei
250XP isn't too much to complaint about...
too true, you could probably get this back in 10 minutes of work, if you take on tough mobs.

Crispie

Crispie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Michigan

Lords of the Dead

Mo/

I dont get why refund points even exist. All it does is hinder people. I mean, the only thing it can do is prevent people from changing builds quickly. I dont want to grind 6,000xp in order to change my build. Just get rid of refund points and freeze attributes in battle.

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

Freezing attributes in battle and allowing unlimited refund points outside of battle would be a great solution. How often do you change attributes mid-battle anyways? Definitely far less than you switch around attributes out of battle.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

i dont mind the 250xp (or what ever it is), because when im enjoying the game xp flys by like cazy.. no "grind" needed... i could understand 2500xp.. but 250xp is nothing to complain about

TheGreatBoo

TheGreatBoo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

PA

Once again I'm a free agent. Quality guilds ahoy?

Yeah, 250xp is nothing to fret about.

Crispie

Crispie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Michigan

Lords of the Dead

Mo/

250xp is nothing, untill you realize its 6,000xp to use all your refund points. On average, you may change half your attributes, which is 3,000xp. For me, thats at least a missions worth of killing. Another way to look at it is this, you get about 20xp per kill at level 20 on the average monsters, so have fun killing 300 monsters

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

well, then do a mission.. if your done it, then help someone do it (free of charge, because only jerks cost money) and then you will be on your way... or just find a quest you havent done, 6000xp is only a lot if you make it a lot...

Kdab

Kdab

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

San Diego, CA

BFP

N/Me

If I were you guys I'd even be thankful you can refund points in this game. If not then I'd probably would have made and deleted 100 characters by now.

Kishin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The Twilight Vanguard [TTV]

R/

It still works, albeit not like it used to. Switching your secondary refunds you all the attribute points you spent on any secondary attributes instantly, at no cost.

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kdab
If I were you guys I'd even be thankful you can refund points in this game. If not then I'd probably would have made and deleted 100 characters by now.
My thoughts exactly. Several times I've gone "Damnit if only I had...hey wait a minute, I forgot refund points were there." It basically allows you to change what you do with a character. For example, my monk has been a healing monk, smiting monk, and now a protection monk. It allows you to try different things using the same character.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

i have to agree, refund points for your attributes is annoyed. I know it don't take much exp (250 to get one points back) but it really kill the fun for people to experiment with there attributes points. For example, my W/E. I put 10 on strength, 11 on hammer, 5 on tactics, and 9 on fire magic. But since the refund points is in effect, i can't move any of these points around to say change my elementlist attack to earth, water or something else. or to put all 11 points on swords or axe.

Lorelei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere unexpected

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispie
250xp is nothing, untill you realize its 6,000xp to use all your refund points. On average, you may change half your attributes, which is 3,000xp. For me, thats at least a missions worth of killing. Another way to look at it is this, you get about 20xp per kill at level 20 on the average monsters, so have fun killing 300 monsters
Isn't killing monsters your job? Go back to work!

Argon The Seeker

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

It should be that you can only change attributes in town just like skills (you could still raise them in Missions If you had extra points) and get rid of the refund points altogether

Saerden

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

I am so thankfull (!!! praise ANET!!!) that GW does not format my HDD when i uninstall it. PRAISE ANET. Actually i know a game that did exactly this...
/fanboi mode off

Please check the following: put attribute points into your secondary profession attributes, and then change profession. You dont get refund points back, but the points you had in the secondary attributes should be refunded at no cost. If it does not work, place your bets on the next "fix"

edit:

If the game is good enough for you to "endure" this stupid mechanic:
DONT do a mission for refund points. Thats the worst way of getting them back. Find something you can farm with your current build. Its really sad the way it is, but oh well...

entropy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/W

God my E/R can switch to an E/Mo to smite... but It takes me so f****** long to change from being air to earth to smiter or any of those. switching from air to earth is atleast 12 att points and more if im using my secondary! god i hate att points

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

So, that last post was a joke, right?
And why did you censor "fireman"?

chaos dragoon

chaos dragoon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Warrior Nation[WN]

R/

as in many other posts i hate refund points.slo in other post i would like attribute points to be changable in towns and outpost unlimitedly.