Is anyone else tired of netspeak?

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

/Agreed with the idea that netspeak definitely does suck

Ok with those "lol, wtf, brb, np,cya" just for ease but have a look at locale chan, i never let it open and it's getting worse..when it's not a 2nd trade channel in outposts..it's always the same stuff

-"lfg"
-"lfg"
-"lfg"
-"lfg"
x200
-Need Mo
-Xperienced player lfg no noobs
-lfg to do bonus
-lfg
-stfu noobs

etc and u can easily add 200 trade msg in that crap

kg_lildude1

kg_lildude1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lionheart Braves [LHB]

W/

peope spam wts/wtb in local channels because they realize that no one ever has trade chat open, pretty soon they will be resorting to private msging in-game, which will be even more annoying

i am against MOST leetspeak or whatever you type it as, but i do use some of the useful ones ALOT, like; lol <-- said in earlier post, it's a word of its own now , brb, cya <-- often people have to leave immediately and do not have time to say a full goodbye, lmao <-- another version of lol, IFG, or LFG, but i never put experienced no noobs or any of that ****, because thats degrading the other people and i probably won't be invited. If you really want a group of probably very good people type, message me if you think you aren't that good and we can form group, then show a big smile , thats pretty much the only good ones that should be used

brb is probably the most important, i don't get what some of you people have a problem with this, because, if something in the real world comes up, i.e. for me sometimes i have to take the dog out, i don't have forever to type be right back, because by then, i'll get yelled at by my parents and prolly kicked off the comp, brb is generally used when a situation without previous notice comes up that REQUIRES the persons immediate attention, so if you see someone say, brb, THEN THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS ATTENTION, so don't get pissed at them if they have responsibilities in REAL life...., if they say brb gonna get food, then that would be an excuse, because they can spell that out and then get their food, but for emergencies you don't always have time to type out every single word like a grammar/spell freak

Diomedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Blue Island (think Chicago)

Me/N

Quote:
Language isn't some kind of immovable, set-in-stone, holy set of rules. The nice thing about language is that it's constantly changing. We now also say "you" instead of "thou". Who is to say that this won't evolve further into a generally-accepted "u" ?
Although "you" instead of "thou" was a form of English rebellion IIRC. The King demanded to be addressed in the plural (i.e. the royal "we") and hence the rebellion was to always use the 2nd person plural instead of the 2nd person singular when addressing /anyone/ (so the king was addressed as he desired, but it wasn't distinct or unique). Thus thee/thy/thou left our language.

I somehow like that more than, "Well, someome made a typo and said 'pwn' instead of 'own' and all well... monkey see, monkey do."

However, my opinions will ultimately have no effect on the course of the language. Hence I might as well bite my lip and just go with the flow on this one. The only upshot is that usually if someone is saying, "Man I'm 1337", I know not to invite them to my PUG, and if they're using complete sentences, they'll get the invite.

-Diomedes

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

The problem is that people seem to push more neurons toward saying something that is harder to type than "new player" or "idiot" because they think, on some subconcsious (not always) level that typing
3l1+3 /\/00b135

makes them somewhow super evil geniuses who can walk through walls, dodge bullets, and claim Neo as their father, and the matrix as their mecca.

Problem is, intelligence and being able to make art are not always in tandem.

People type that way for several other reasons, such as:

It annoys others, and they KNOW it does.

It slows down the communication between people who may not talk like that, and they KNOW it does.

It causes misunderstandings, and they KNOW it does.

The point is, ignore tools who act like that, and go on with your day. You cannot EVER hope to stem the tide of the inane and the mundane, but if we're lucky, Anet will put a filter in place and all that SHIT will become replaced with things like "i like twinkies and candycanes" instead of "OMG SUXORS JOO!"

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
PS: On the subject of pet peeves: 'ignots'.
A carryover from my Diablo days:

roUge vs. rogUe

One is make-up. One is, in this case, a female game character that MIGHT wear the former.

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

Communication is the key to this game. People that complain about others usually to not make their thoughts well known. It is not that hard to type out full words to make your point. I can undetstand Short Speak like "ya" or "rdy" but this wierd other slang doesn't work for me. You want people to understand you and not frustrate you while playing this game then take the time to TYPE your message.

Also people that start saying "GoGoGo" as soon as I accept an invite I either whisper the leader to kick them or I just drop out any more. They are usually the ones that charge in and bring on the mobs then complain that they were not healed or everyone else is a n00b. I have had it. Now that I am playing a Monk I can and will find a group that will appreciate good team play and sportsmanship.

The Stealth Ranger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

R/E

I never liked chatting and SMS. I think it's an extremely inefficient, slow and unpleasant way of communicating. You only have a very short time to type your thoughts on something as dreadful as a keyboard. And when you're finally done, the other is already talking about another subject. And I'm not even talking about all the typos you always see. I think it's very strange that so many people do it a lot and seem to like it. We haven't got a voice for nothing. It's the best way of communicating (it's possible to use Skype in the background with Guild Wars). I try to avoid chatting as much as possible.

But especially in a fast game environment, it's inevitable that people come up with all sorts of esoteric and exotic abbreviations. It's inevitable. Inherent to something inefficient like chatting. Not that I appreciate words with various numbers and symbols in it. Simply because a lot of normal people don't have a clue what the other is "talking" about. It also looks a bit silly and childish, in my opinion. It's all "monkey language" to me

Stur

Stur

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Athens Georgia

Outlaws of Ascalon

E/Mo

Nerds complaining about Geeks using lEEt hahaha ohhhh the irony

Shandoo Bilari

Shandoo Bilari

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

NoVa

Dark Brotherhood

Mo/

Llama > Here comes the WAAAAMBULANCE > Nubs > Noobs > Newb > Ninja Pirate

I have no idea why I posted this, humor me I am stuck in a meeting.

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shandoo Bilari
Llama > Here comes the WAAAAMBULANCE > Nubs > Noobs > Newb > Ninja Pirate

I have no idea why I posted this, humor me I am stuck in a meeting.
Go back to the meeting.

Anarkii

Anarkii

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

-None-

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by kg_lildude1
pretty soon they will be resorting to private msging in-game, which will be even more
It has already started. I was standing with my new character in Yaks Bend the other day, and got 3/4 PMs about items. like "Do you need a fiery axe haft? Its great for killing monsters in these ice areas. 500g only!!".

Oh and I didnt say "stfu nub"
I actually bought it

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arturo02
I kinda like pwned though. Just a funny word to use.
pwndizzld and w00tburgrz are 2 of my favorites

Quote:
Originally Posted by FiveDisgruntledMonkeys
I abhor netspeak, l337speak, what-have-you, and I never use it in game. I capitalize and punctuate my sentences, and do my best to spell things correctly.
And, really, I'm starting to feel like I'm the only one.
You're not.

Jczech

Jczech

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Actually, I'd like to know where these people get this from. Surely schools teach you how to write with proper grammer, spelling and punctuation. What happens to these people when they log on? Does their entire education that has been engraved into the minds just disappear? How? What causes this? Why would someone throw away years of learning that is second nature on how to spell and such for this?

It frustrates me, it pisses me off. I hate stupid, idiotic people and sometimes they're lucky I'm not around them with something that can be used as a weapon.
I have a couple theories as to where it comes from. My favourite being that they're all 12 year olds and don't know any better

Seriously though, I think it comes from those who can't type quickly. While I understand that someone who's new to the online world to not have the ability to type as quickly as is required, it's not an excuse to cut short words into shorter strings of alphanumerical characters. If something is too hard, do you practice until you get better, or set your standards low enough so, atleast in your own eyes, you're 'good enough'?

The problem is that they start using it while they're new, and the habit sticks. Either they don't know better, or they pick it up from the 'cool' people, and imitate them. Perhaps if they taught typing from an earlier age, it would stick around. But that's just my theory on where this utterly annoying 'netspeak' comes from.

It annoys the hell out of me too. I sometimes wish I knew how to crack (not to be mistaken with the horribly abused hacking, which annoys me almost as much as this 'netspeak') so I could atleast harm them for being so stupid, even if it couldn't be physically.

JoDiamonds

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

Subcultures develop their own jargon and language. It's part of human nature. It helps differentiate those people from others, and provides a sense of community and insulates against "outsiders".

I'm not saying all of these things are good or bad, and there are many studies and books on the subject, far more than could be said here. But it's going to happen, and no one can stop it. =)

rwt2006

rwt2006

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

American Border Patrol

W/

l33t-speak is for idiots, whoever uses it or created it is a retard with no life living in his mommies basement playing games all day long. Netspeak is annoying too, but then again sometimes it can be helpful to shorten things out but ROFL and lol are way over used. Don't forget LMAO too... oh and if u say ROFL i doubt it's that funny or you would have actualy gotten on the floor.

Diomedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Blue Island (think Chicago)

Me/N

Quote:
l33t-speak is for idiots, whoever uses it or created it is a retard with no life living in his mommies basement playing games all day long.
Just to insert some history. 1337 speak started waaaaay back when in newsgroups and such by people who were (usually) engaged in some illegal activities (like hacking, phreaking, pirating, etc). Many of these folks were paranoid (and rightly so) that their messages were being scanned by FBI/law enforcement computers and such. These programs were sort of "dumb" text search engines that would look for words like "hack" and if it found one in a message, would flag it and send the message to an agent to review. Hence people started purposely misspelling and typing words to avoid the search. Thus 1337 speak was born.

Years later some kids who don't know the history or use of 1337 speak decided that it looked "cool" to do it. Let's face it, it used to be very cool to be a hacker, and if you couldn't hack, you could still sound like one on the internet. Thus people who didn't know anything started spreading it around.

Anyhow, those sorts of things do have a reason to exist, but their reason is now long gone and they've all moved on... except for some folks who still think it "sounds" cool.

-Diomedes

Krytan Warrior

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldfinger
It is really wearing thin for me. It seems like each and every little hip term is more and more idiotic. Newbie, newb, noob, n00b, nub, it just keeps getting worse and worse. Owned and pwned are pretty much the most uncool sayings to grace god's green earth. Anything with the intended mispellings, numbers for letters, and all kinds of jazz like that is pretty much a sure fire way to make yourself look like a fagnuts. That being said, why does everyone do it? What kind of simple minded retard seems to think that OMG STFU n00b is some sort of acceptable reply to anything. I am sick of seeing this crap tossed around the arenas and tossed around my whispers when I try to confront someone about something stupid they may be doing or may have done. Does anyone here do this? If you do can you explain why crap like this is said? Does anyone agree with me or is everyone looking to make gamers like some sort of crew hell bent on crapping on the english language?
I totally agree. That`s why I NEVER use abbreviations when I play Guild Wars. If I want to sell, I write "i want to sell" If I am looking for a group then I just type it. It is really not that hard.

These 733t, n00b etc. stuff just makes people look like immature morons.

Cap'n Hoek

Cap'n Hoek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Sunny California

Ancient Avatars

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokenSymmetry
Who is to say that this won't evolve further into a generally-accepted "u" ?
Don't you mean "devolve"?

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

To the OP, did everyone repeatedly pWnZ0r you and call you a newb? Did they WTFpwn you?

Leetspeak can be annoying in excess but sometimes it's funny.

- I pwn n00bs -

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

It's even used when naming a char

Thoese names rlly make me laugh..Who d name his char
XX /\/@@b $uXX Xx or P\/\/NU N@@b .. well maybe that kinda moron

This should'nt be allowed..i think that the idea of restricting the use of numbers and symbols is good.. GW is the only game where those stupid names aren't allowed, i think.. D2 was full of em

The Stealth Ranger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

R/E

I'm also getting tired of "netbehaviour". When people are anonymous, their true self comes out. And as it seems there are a lot of rude, uncivilized people out there. For instance, I was selling some items once and the first thing a guy said "Let me see!". Stupid as I was I had to walk a while to where he was. Made a trade session and after he silently decided that he wasn't interested he canceled the session and ran away without saying anything. A sad character that I bet never heard about the word decency and respect.

I learned from it though, next time when someone gets in contact with me like that without asking nicely I will just completely ignore him/her. Those people have to be tackled about their behaviour. We have to learn them that there are negative consequences when you don't behave civilized. When one misbehaves in a party, everyone has to let him/her know that it is not tolerated and throw him out of the party if necessary. But in practice almost nobody acts and speaks out. We have not created a civilization for nothing. It's the reason why we can live together peacefully. Think bigger guys. We have a real problem in society too. We have to act.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stealth Ranger
When people are anonymous, their true self comes out. And as it seems there are a lot of rude, uncivilized people out there. For instance, I was selling some items once and the first thing a guy said "Let me see!". Stupid as I was I had to walk a while to where he was. Made a trade session and after he silently decided that he wasn't interested he canceled the session and ran away without saying anything
hmm i d say that most people dont care cauz they are not in front of you so they think they have the right to do whatever they want, being rude, and dont saying a word, not even "thank you" during a trade, are a lil part of this
Those jerks "know" that you cant obviously do a thing , not like IRL ...
They dont care, just ask for a need in game, they take it and leave (that's always like that when doing a trade)

UltraPigface2002

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

considering computers and the internet is basically built on simplicity, i find it pretty logical that people would use abbreviations to limit the amount of typing, like if you were writing code, why would you have a dozen lines of code just to make it look better? these are the people who first made and populated the internet, its the reason why when you highlight a piece of text you can copy and paste it for ease or theres a quick reply at the bottom of the page. computers are made by and for "lazy" people and if it wasnt for that youd still be using a text based operating system. however calling someone a noob or such is just a new form of insult, and pretty retarded at that, considering it makes you look about ten times dumber then the person you just "insulted".

Lost

Lost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hell's Precipice

I just find it sad when people have to shorten already short words. What being typed wut or wat. To being typed 2.

There is rarely ever a need to have to type fast. You shouldn't be typing during combat. Taking the extra micro-second isn't going to make your text any less important. It will actually make it look more important.

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost
I just find it sad when people have to shorten already short words. What being typed wut or wat. To being typed 2.

There is rarely ever a need to have to type fast. You shouldn't be typing during combat. Taking the extra micro-second isn't going to make your text any less important. It will actually make it look more important.
Correct! You shouldn't be typing during combat. However, because some people just don't Get It you end up doing just that.

Why is the concept of stopping after a big fight so hard to understand? By stopping and Healing/Recharging you have a golden oppertunity to plan your next moves. Granted you don't ALWAYS have to plan a move. But on hairy missions that take some skill it is a good idea to know what is coming and who is doing what. ie: Pulling,Calling Target,Running pass instead of fighting, etc.

To me, by stopping for 15 secs can be the difference of winning or losing a mission. I just do not Get It why running and attacking before everyone is ready seems to be the norm in this game. One of the Skill Factors to me is the planning. The tactical strategy in other words. In a group we are no different then a squad in the field. Like a patrol in a real army. You have a squad leader, and usually a second in command. They just do not go out and attack "Willy nilly". They have a PLAN of ATTACK.

Enough said...

Bragg Madaxe

Bragg Madaxe

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

lyzrdstomp.com

Lyzrd's Tale

Mo/N

One I use often is NE1 for anyone. "NE1 looking 4 monk 4 bonus only?" like that.
Bragg

cynhounds

cynhounds

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Sweet Hillsides

Dragons Family (DF)

R/Mo

Netspeak...so that's what it's called. Here I've been calling it "TXT" because I thought that it was created for people doing TXT MSGing on their cellphones, and it takes a long time to type stuff out just using your thumbs.

And I understand that rationale. But I don't understand the messages...because let's face it, I'm old. Trying to read netspeak is like trying to work out a rebus, and just like a rebus, I sometimes don't get the right interpretation for an ambiguous symbol. So I skip over it until I can find something I can understand. I can forgive misspellings, bad grammar, as long as the person trying to communicate isn't trying to talk in code, and that to me is what netspeak is. I don't want to have to decode a message before I can try to understand what the meaning is.

I may be the second oldest person playing this game. Really. I say that because I know my husband is older.

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by cynhounds
I may be the second oldest person playing this game. Really. I say that because I know my husband is older.
I will challenge you to an Age Off. I remember having a rotory phone, Air conditioning was only in Luxury cars. Hair cuts cost 50 cents. Have you received your AARP letters yet?

Seriously I always welcome the order crowd like myself. I get so many youngens in the game that ask me:"You play GAMES?" I will be playing computer games even when my kids throw me in a home.

Arturo02

Arturo02

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

See that third planet from the sun?

Sacred Forge Knights

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
hmm i d say that most people dont care cauz they are not in front of you so they think they have the right to do whatever they want, being rude, and dont saying a word, not even "thank you" during a trade, are a lil part of this
Those jerks "know" that you cant obviously do a thing , not like IRL ...
They dont care, just ask for a need in game, they take it and leave (that's always like that when doing a trade)
people are just as rude IRL. Note how many people actually thank you for holding a door open for them nowadays.

and what can you do IRL anyways? You gonna go around and punch people in the face for this? Would be a good deterrent but not very practical hehe.

and look, we're using netspeak right now...IRL! No wait, it's a message board. ROFL!

Arturo02

Arturo02

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

See that third planet from the sun?

Sacred Forge Knights

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood
I will challenge you to an Age Off. I remember having a rotory phone, Air conditioning was only in Luxury cars. Hair cuts cost 50 cents. Have you received your AARP letters yet?
now did it snow both on the way to and from school when you had to walk uphill both ways and used a belt to hold your books together?

hehe

p.s. and you liked it!

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood
I will challenge you to an Age Off. I remember having a rotory phone, Air conditioning was only in Luxury cars. Hair cuts cost 50 cents. Have you received your AARP letters yet?
I remember rotary phones and so much so that I bought one in an "antique" shop (and wept while I was at it LOL!) so that during power outages, I could call the power company and complain!

AC in cars: Never was just a "luxury" in Arizona.

Haircuts for 50 cents? Yep, I remember. But I also remember my dad taking the 'clippers' to my poor brother's head with disastrous results.

AARP letter...err...you got me there. I've not gotten one yet.

Quote:
Seriously I always welcome the order crowd like myself. I get so many youngens in the game that ask me:"You play GAMES?" I will be playing computer games even when my kids throw me in a home.
I love it when someone says: "Don't you like have a life, dude? What is someone your age doin' playin' a kid's game?" Like you, I'll probably be playing them when I'm in Depends, have forgotten my kids' names and am eating baby food for every meal.

Besides, I almost always retort with, "My dad plays Diablo, GW, NWN, Divinity and a bunch of others....and he's 74."

The Stealth Ranger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

R/E

Quote:
and what can you do IRL anyways? You gonna go around and punch people in the face for this? Would be a good deterrent but not very practical hehe.
People can say something about it or show that they don't appreciate it, instead of being indifferent. You must confront the other with his/her behaviour. If nobody reacts they will start to think that it's normal behaviour. People can also be more aware to be nice to other people. For instance, in the train the conductor always says hello and I decided to say hello back from now on! It's in the little things. People wil get less negative about other people then. It's an interactive thing. An upward spiral instead of a downward.

BTW, I noticed that people in the USA are generally much more nice than people here in Europe. In fact the difference was pretty big. Something strange happened to Europe.

Anyway, I feel like I'm starting to look like a school teacher now

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
I remember rotary phones and so much so that I bought one in an "antique" shop (and wept while I was at it LOL!) so that during power outages, I could call the power company and complain!

AC in cars: Never was just a "luxury" in Arizona.

Haircuts for 50 cents? Yep, I remember. But I also remember my dad taking the 'clippers' to my poor brother's head with disastrous results.

AARP letter...err...you got me there. I've not gotten one yet.



I love it when someone says: "Don't you like have a life, dude? What is someone your age doin' playin' a kid's game?" Like you, I'll probably be playing them when I'm in Depends, have forgotten my kids' names and am eating baby food for every meal.

Besides, I almost always retort with, "My dad plays Diablo, GW, NWN, Divinity and a bunch of others....and he's 74."
My Dad gave us haircuts too. It was rare when we went to the Barber shop. The good old "Butch/Buzz" cut was all my Dad could do. Did it ever hurt when he "nicked" us and gave us that dent look.

Arturo02, I did walk to school though. 3-4 miles one way. Busing? Ha! That was not in the cards. My older Brother used a belt for his books. Well he fought in the Civil War..I was in the Spanish American War.

Aniewiel, Hmmm...Depends? there is a good idea to use them now. You don't have to wait for cutscenes to make your mad dash.

All in good Fun....

cynhounds

cynhounds

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Sweet Hillsides

Dragons Family (DF)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood
I will challenge you to an Age Off. I remember having a rotory phone, Air conditioning was only in Luxury cars. Hair cuts cost 50 cents. Have you received your AARP letters yet?
I received my first AARP letter years ago. Since I'm female, I am not telling how many.

We were just pondering the universality of air conditioning yesterday, in the 110 degree heat index. Our mothers kicked us outside at 9 a.m. and didn't expect us back until lunch, no matter what the weather.

And just to make it relevant to the actual thread, if I ever send my mom a note that says "Hw r u?", she'll check the postmark to see what country it came from.

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

cynhounds,

By no means am I asking your age. I will not fall in that trap, nor will I be that rude toward you. I find it pretty darn spiffy that an older married couple play online together.

Also I always find that older women are The Bomb. Just ask my wife of 22 years. She will agree with me.

As for the spirit of this thread...we may seem to be off topic however, we are just writing in a form that ALL can understand. Leading by Example.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldfinger
It is really wearing thin for me. It seems like each and every little hip term is more and more idiotic. Newbie, newb, noob, n00b, nub, it just keeps getting worse and worse. Owned and pwned are pretty much the most uncool sayings to grace god's green earth. Anything with the intended mispellings, numbers for letters, and all kinds of jazz like that is pretty much a sure fire way to make yourself look like a fagnuts. That being said, why does everyone do it? What kind of simple minded retard seems to think that OMG STFU n00b is some sort of acceptable reply to anything. I am sick of seeing this crap tossed around the arenas and tossed around my whispers when I try to confront someone about something stupid they may be doing or may have done. Does anyone here do this? If you do can you explain why crap like this is said? Does anyone agree with me or is everyone looking to make gamers like some sort of crew hell bent on crapping on the english language?

the fact that you associate the development of "leetspeak" with gamers takes all merit away from your post. Educate yourself before you rant.....especially when you rant about the declining intellect of the common person.

Third Quarter

Third Quarter

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ectos And Shards [EnS]

I consider the English language a close, trusted friend.

I do not mercilessly butcher my close, trusted friends.

Volarian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

NOT-Nomads Of Turmoil

*the guy above me*
"leetspeak" tagged as one of the perpetrators.

Cap'n Hoek

Cap'n Hoek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Sunny California

Ancient Avatars

Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraPigface2002
these are the people who first made and populated the internet...computers are made by and for "lazy" people and if it wasnt for that youd still be using a text based operating system.
Seriously? 12 year old internet cool guys are the ones who first made and populated the internet? Oh man, Al Gore's gonna be soooooo mad. You know, there's a difference between efficient and degenerate.

hi = efficient
sup = degenerate

Maybe the guys who first manufactured computers got their funding by writing the to the venture capitalists like this:

u n00bletz nedz 2 give me $$$ 4 comp d00d roxxorzzzz!!1!1! pwned~!

I'm sure that's how it happened. Roxxorz on!

BrynMaw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

OaP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
I would if someone uses it seriously. There's a difference between the spoken word and written word. English is supposed to be spelled properly, you don't type in dialect, that's just silly.

Personally I only use that crap if I'm just messing around. When I start typing in caps, that's when you should stop taking me seriously. If someone starts typing in caps, that's when I stop taking them seriously (unless their spelling and grammer is atrocious in the first place).
Irvine Welsh (author of Trainspotting) writes in dialect. It accurately reflects the way people speak. Good or bad - don't know