GW infested with Chinese

Rocco The Flipside

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/N

I have nothing against Chinese, in fact, I am an Asian American. However, recently, the ember light camps, ring of fire, abaddon's mouth, and hell's precipice have been literally infested with chinese speaking people everywhere. This really pisses me off because it makes it harder for me to find groups as they spam with gibberish chinese. I am pretty sure they are chinese slaves working for the loser bot- making companies so I ask for Anet to ban all of these people. Thanks.

ComMan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

A Chinese person would not enter an American district and spam "jou shou whoo shin quo wen" or whatever they're spamming. A Chinese person would use Chinese characters. Those, my friend, are not Chinese, but idiots.

Mario 64 Master

Mario 64 Master

wats going on

Join Date: Jan 2005

Trumbull, Connecticut

Nuclear Launch Detected [Nu]

W/Mo

They're bots.

B3H

B3H

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mid-West

Cheer Up Emo Kid [EMO]

W/R

I noticed this a lot the last couple of days too. Anet please ban these bots

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Just proves how ignorant they are...basically sticking two fingers up at Anet, making it obvious to everyone.
If i was ArenaNet, i would ban them by IP too.

prodigy ming

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

If you have no idea what they said, don't need to automatically assume they are bots (even though they may be)
make a chinese server then... there is a "Europe" and "America" server. Why not a "Asia" server but only Korean instead? Since chinese players don't understand korean, they have to play on another language server.

InvaderGIR

InvaderGIR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

I'm Chinese myself but I get extremely annoyed at the fact they're speaking in Chinese in the American servers. Not only that, I know Chinese characters are supported by GW. I'm not confusing them with the Korean characters since I know how to read Chinese myself. However, what they're speaking is basic Chinese and the most simplest terms. Seems to me like they just want attention or to prove some stupid AzN PrYdE (sorry, but I hate AzN PrYdE).

Some, I realized, are bots. The same statements copied and pasted over and over. They hardly mean anything in Chinese, too. Some of them say something about "Hi, I'm here! I'm here! I'm selling!" in Chinese. Granted, if they'd want to sell something, they might as well say it in English as these ARE American servers.

I noticed there's a huge gathering of Chinese in the Ember Camps and the Crystal Desert region. Rather annoying if you ask me.

prodigy ming

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by InvaderGIR
I'm Chinese myself but I get extremely annoyed at the fact they're speaking in Chinese in the American servers. Not only that, I know Chinese characters are supported by GW. I'm not confusing them with the Korean characters since I know how to read Chinese myself. However, what they're speaking is basic Chinese and the most simplest terms. Seems to me like they just want attention or to prove some stupid AzN PrYdE (sorry, but I hate AzN PrYdE).

Some, I realized, are bots. The same statements copied and pasted over and over. They hardly mean anything in Chinese, too. Some of them say something about "Hi, I'm here! I'm here! I'm selling!" in Chinese. Granted, if they'd want to sell something, they might as well say it in English as these ARE American servers.

I noticed there's a huge gathering of Chinese in the Ember Camps and the Crystal Desert region. Rather annoying if you ask me.
thanks for getting annoyed... question: where can chinese players speak chinese then? They don't get their own server and maybe they just want to find other chinese players to play with.

I understand chinese and the last time i saw spam messages like that, it was "WTB max gold damage weapons for high price". If messages like that really does piss you people off so much, maybe everyone who spams that in english should be banned as well...

the automatic assumtion that they are bots or slaves... talk about over stereotyping... so every american or european farmer might just be another slave kid playing 24/7 in the basement so his master would give him a few less whips that night? don't come to conculsion so quick on something you know nothing about and base your response on a few sentance you read in a magazine or overheard from a friend.

Ellington

Ellington

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

South Carolina

Sons of Zeus [ZEUS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by prodigy ming
Where can Chinese players speak Chinese then?
Korea.

Seriously, they'd probably have better luck finding people who understand them there, since the natural tendency is for players to join whatever servers are geographically closest to them.

suzumebachi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

New Mexico

Mas Chingon [VATO]

R/N

yeah, for the last.. 3 or 4 weeks now, every time i go to ember district 1 there's 4 or 5 guys spamming in chinese...

KelvinC

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

ANZ

There is no chinese server in guildwars and the english version does not allow players to switch to korean districts.

If they bought the korean version the chinese won't understand.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Fact = Those spamming in Chinese are bots... they go out, farm, come back, say some crap, leave and start again.

That's why the Ember Light camp lags so damn much.

If you see this happing, take a screenshot and report to A.net.

sandman1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

tre

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellington
Korea.

Seriously, they'd probably have better luck finding people who understand them there, since the natural tendency is for players to join whatever servers are geographically closest to them.

tats not true
im asian and i have a way better connection to the US not every country in asia has good conection to korea
yes im on US server as well and lots of other asian countries are playing on US servers as well
did u really think all those HOH matches US always wins are by american?
i know some of them and they are asians

and for those chinese spamming the same sentence in ember light , they are most likely bots cos wat most of wat they are saying is rubbish like *your lying if you are saying your invincible* ect its wierd since everytime i go there theres alsways someone saying the same thing but on different names

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellington
Korea.

Seriously, they'd probably have better luck finding people who understand them there, since the natural tendency is for players to join whatever servers are geographically closest to them.
This makes little sence. Not all countries are the friendliest in the world with eachother. It would be like saying they should get North Koreans to start playing the game with South Koreans.

Look at the maker of this post; a South Korean. Obviously this is some racial campaing. While it is annoying at times that Chinese players have seemed to have made Ember Light Camp home base, that's no reason to ban people.

When people start speaking Spanish and French in the areana waiting areas are you going to petition for Anet to exile them all to Europe Spanish/French Districts?

prodigy ming

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

maybe I sounded a little too offensive in the last post... but being a frequent gamer in both english and chinese games, I know how they feel.
Most of the chinese spam i see in GW are in traditional chinese which means they are most likely from Hong Kong or Taiwan.... where english is a much more common second language than korean. So naturally they go for the american server.
But seriously, there are probably many other Asian players around (including chinese, japanese, malaysian(sp), vietnam...etc) ... why is Asia represented by Korea? why is only korean (asian wise) allow to play and type in their own language?

Kiiron

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

La Jolla

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellington
Korea.

Seriously, they'd probably have better luck finding people who understand them there, since the natural tendency is for players to join whatever servers are geographically closest to them.
I disagree. Many Chinese people speak English as a second language. Comparatively few speak Korean as a second language. Therefore, many those Chinese people who speak English are going to play on the American servers, since they have a better chance of communicating there than on the Korean servers.

Dead Panda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Me

I thought Guild Wars was only sold in Korea, Europe and America? =/

Ellington

Ellington

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

South Carolina

Sons of Zeus [ZEUS]

Beh, fine.

I forgot about English being the world's main trading language...

prodigy ming

prodigy ming

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Lets just close this topic before it become a all out racial cuss war.
There was no point to this post anyways, and its way too racist in nature.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Really, I think we should be banning racists and not banning people for racists..

Ashley Twig

Ashley Twig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

germany

Guild Of Openhearted Deeds

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
If i was ArenaNet, i would ban them by IP too.
Good luck, banning an IP if it's dynamic.

BrokenSymmetry

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Panda
I thought Guild Wars was only sold in Korea, Europe and America? =/
Anyone in the whole world can simply go to the site of NCSoft, buy a GW key online ($44), download the initial client (75K), and start playing.

stratos_v2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

lol, actualy i must say that it's rather smart of the bot builder. (taking into the theory that they are bots)

Because the bot when he comes into the town speaks chinese, the GW mods on the server can possibly not understand them. So when the bot get's asked directly by a mod (for instance) if he's a bot, the program can just spout random chinese and the mod wouldn't be any wiser.

This basicly prevents the bot from having to understand english, and in the presumption that all asian speaking folk are on the korean server. (which in my infinite naivity i actualy also thought) there also would be no one whom would actualy understand them.

This all in the spirit of the old D2 bots that shouted random sentances and insult to bosses

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

You almost sound like you think bots are a good thing. And I'm very sure a.net has people that understand many different languages.

Bots are a problem, they annoying and causing all the farming areas to be reduce to nothing. Gates of Kryta alone shows that.

Don't like the way this thread is going, its going a bit flaming, hope it gets locked.

neoteo

neoteo

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Macau

www.exilesofdarksteel.com

E/

the only way i see to ban bots , is to have some players with ban power ...

btw , im portuguese/french blood , i live in Macau ( near hongkong ) , i play in american server ...

i am almost sure , everytime america gets the favor , it was an asian team playing in american server

americans are just to dam dumb ...

( lol just kiding ... its a pay back to the infest word )

stratos_v2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
You almost sound like you think bots are a good thing. And I'm very sure a.net has people that understand many different languages.

Bots are a problem, they annoying and causing all the farming areas to be reduce to nothing. Gates of Kryta alone shows that.

Don't like the way this thread is going, its going a bit flaming, hope it gets locked.
No i don't think bots are a good thing. It's just profesional intrest in the techniques they employ.

Just like for instance computer viruses, bot programs aren't very complex or anything, but they are however very creative in how they tackle problems, which makes them interesting.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by stratos_v2
No i don't think bots are a good thing. It's just profesional intrest in the techniques they employ.

Just like for instance computer viruses, bot programs aren't very complex or anything, but they are however very creative in how they tackle problems, which makes them interesting.
I see what you mean now, you didn't word your post very well. Bots yes must use interesting programming, but they are only able to do what their programmed to, which is my hope A.net continue to ban anyone using them. But lately they don't seem to be doing anything about them. All the warning and people are still boting away

stratos_v2

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
I see what you mean now, you didn't word your post very well. Bots yes must use interesting programming, but they are only able to do what their programmed to, which is my hope A.net continue to ban anyone using them. But lately they don't seem to be doing anything about them. All the warning and people are still boting away
Well stopping bots might not be as straight forward as it seems.
Although for a human being it is quite easy to recognise a bot, for software it isn't. (And i'm quite sure Anet isn't planning to hire a army of super inteligent monkies to detect bots)

D2 was basicly the place i think where all the bot strategies where born.
irregular walk patterns. random waits. random speaking.

Now taking that a "human" farmer, basicly tries to be as much as a bot as possible. (sometimes it's even quite scary how after a while of farming your fingers know just when to hit what skill)

Now sure there are other means of detecting bots than realy looking what a player is doing, but also this battle got fought in D2.
for every measure Anet takes in this respect the bot makers will simply devise a counter-measure.

And here in lies also the answer to the botting problem. If you attack the bot head on, the maker will see it as a challenge he wants to overcome.
If you simply take away the gain of botting (nerfing bot spots) the bot maker wouldn't really care, because quite possibly he finds making and tunning the bot program much more rewarding then the actualy reap.

However the people whom use the bot for profit no longer get the profit, and for them this changes the ratio `risk`vs`profit` of using a bot.
Quite fast a deal of people will quit botting, because Anet made there aggresive stance clear and the rewards went down dramaticly.
Now because there will be less botters, the remaingingbotters will get more pressure on them because the safety by nummbers is declining.
Which hopefully turns into a viscous circle where more botters will quit because botters they know are quitting because they think it's to dangerous.

On D2 they once had a very good run with a similar strategy, where they saved up bot account to ban them in one big anti-bot strike.
Perhaps they banned 5000 bot account or something, but because they made a big thing of it 10.000 more bot account simply disapeared because people thought it was getting to dangerous to bot.
(nummbers are fictional just to give a idea, i don't have a clue how many bot accounts got banned then, and how many botters quit after that)

silvertemplar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Me/N

One can argue this all day, the obvious solution for this:

Region : Asia
Districts : Korean I, Chinese I, Japanese I, Indian I , and the rest.

Its done on the European Servers [English, German, French districts etc], why not use the same logic for Asia?

Is there some law in Korea/Asia prohibiting this from happening, or is a different A-net team handling the Korean side of operations? I mean come on, this is really one of those "duh" moments.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashley Twig
Good luck, banning an IP if it's dynamic.
Haha, i did have that thought and was waiting for such a reply. Worth a try though, lol.
What i meant was, go to China and buy every copy of the game so they can't buy another one

Iceciro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Surface Warfare and Tactics

E/N

Yes, I too find it's wierd that Korea has it's own server while The europen countries dont. Even the American server isnt REALLY a single-country server, Canada is ALSO in North America, and thats a big chunk of landmass too. Korea should become Asia... just because many Koreans play, thats no reason to force someone in Japan to play on an American or European server.

UltraPigface2002

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceciro
Yes, I too find it's wierd that Korea has it's own server while Europe doesnt. Even the American server isnt REALLY a single-country server, Canada is ALSO in North America, and thats a big chunk of landmass too. Korea should become Asia... just because many Koreans play, thats no reason to force someone in Japan to play on an American or European server.
Canada is part of America, as is Mexico and South America, same with United States of America..

Iceciro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Surface Warfare and Tactics

E/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraPigface2002
Canada is part of America, as is Mexico and South America, same with United States of America..
That;s what I meant... the American server means North/South America, not United States of America - sorry if I wasnt clear.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceciro
Yes, I too find it's wierd that Korea has it's own server while Europe doesnt. Even the American server isnt REALLY a single-country server, Canada is ALSO in North America, and thats a big chunk of landmass too. Korea should become Asia... just because many Koreans play, thats no reason to force someone in Japan to play on an American or European server.
Europe does have it's own server.

thaumaturge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mo/Me

You can see them in Riverside too :/

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by prodigy ming
Lets just close this topic before it become a all out racial cuss war.
There was no point to this post anyways, and its way too racist in nature.
I think the point has been made that there are suspected bots in Ember Light Camp.

Those of you with these suspicions, please take screenshots and/or save chat logs and send them to ANet.

/closed.