Most difficult thing EVER

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

What is more difficult than beating Nuclear Launch Detected and Sissy Boys at the same time with 60 Dp and a henchmen team?

Selling an unidentified rune of superior vigor.

Do some of you have suffered from the unbearable frustration of not being able to sell a good item/rune? I'm not by any means a farmer, but I recently found a gold armor that, salvaged, turned out to be an Unided rune of sup vigor. I already have it unlocked, so I said to myself, hey, let's sell it right away. While I know that there are some fellblades that go for over 500k, this rune is still a decent item to sell and is worth between 55 and 70k lately.

Too bad because many professional farmers/botters already have a sup vigor (or aren't interested in an unided one), so it's infinitely easier selling a weapon, a shield or a mod. Not to mention ectos or shards, you dont even have the time to write "wts" and you already got 5 offers. There's a specific pool of players in need of runes but most of the times the buyer won't meet the seller. Four-five players in Lion's Arch had opinions identical to mine, after they tried to spam wts for countless hours and only got whispers like "hey, does it help in sexual intercourse?" or "so, superior vigor means I'll make my girlfriend happier with this". Ventari's sell is not helping at all, probably that pool of potential buyers is elsewhere.

Is it only me or some supposedly Uber runes/items have become a pain to sell? It has been said before that this game needs an auction house: I don't agree with that, but certainly there are major problems when you're looking for a specific buyer/seller.
That, and the fact that rune traders are ruthless sharks.

Mr Jazzy

Mr Jazzy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Cali

Mending For The [win]

W/A

if you have trouble selling it, sell it to me for cheap
(i offer two black dyes )

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Huh, thanks for the kind offer but...shouldn't we stay on topic? Mine was a general complaint, not a "wts" post.

Just want to know if someone else has experienced this problem.

powdahound

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Troy, NY, USA

Mo/Me

Well all the people that have tons of money have it from farming or eBay or just crazy amounts of play time, and they all already have the rune unlocked surely. The people that don't have it generally don't have very much money and so they won't buy it. This will drive prices down on items that people want to sell off which is a very good thing.

I wish this could also happen with weapons. It's stupid to need >50k to get a decent max weapon. Luckily those collectors aren't so demanding.

OrangeArrow

Flame Bait

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mass

Mo/Me

well Unided runes are a hard thing to sell

mainly cause 90% of the players out there has no idea what unlocking an item does

the majority of the ones that do already have it unlocked

and the ones that dont proabably dont have the cash or will use pvp faction to unlock it.


also the market was flooded with Sup Vigors a few weeks ago i got like 7 in 3 days rune farming for Unided runes for Guild mates

contrary to popular belief sup Vigor is probabaly the least rare of the Superior Runes.

also might be a good idea to sell in tombs instead of la for Unided Runes better chance of finding you desired market there

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

I've seen people spamming the WTS thing on the trade channels and have talked to several trying to sell things and not being able to or getting ridiculously low offers. I know one person who was trying to sell black dye for 8k (at the time the trader was selling for a bit over 10k) and he couldn't get anyone to buy. The best offer he got was 6k. I don't know if it's just a matter of who happens to be around when you are and what district you're sitting in or what. Maybe an auction would be a better option instead of trying to sell IG?

Vorlin

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Another thing to keep in mind is that some times are better than others for selling. I've had times when I couldn't give stuff away, then a few hours later I'm moving stuff left and right. If you know your price is a good one, then just be patient and the item will move.

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Tried both things.

Selling in the Tomb is useless since, apparently, superior rune of vigor is the first rune unlocked by most of the people when they have enough faction.

Like many friends of mine, I tried to put up an auction in Ventari and other forums, to no avail.

See, the impression I get is that rune sellers have a very hard time in finding the right buyer, where "godly" weapons sellers don't.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

I need it unlocking and i'm a rich farmer.
Add me up and send tell if you need to "dispose" of it.

As for selling them un-id'd, hmm, i prefer to sell them while still in their armour because they make more money at the merchant

Aracos79

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

I think this is a perfect example of why their needs to be an "Auction House" or some kind of CENTRAL trading hub/system. Out of all the people playing Guild Wars, there has to be a handful that would want to buy the OP's rune. So it now becomes his problem to find where those people are. The trading "system" (and I use that term VERY loosely) as it stands now gives him a very slim chance of ever finding those people who want to buy what he's selling. They have to be online, in the same district as him, and watching the fast-flowing spam in the trade/local channels. I truly hope ANet is working on this and has a better trading system ready to implement soon. This does need to be addressed.

Wa$d

Wa$d

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aracos79
I think this is a perfect example of why their needs to be an "Auction House" or some kind of CENTRAL trading hub/system. Out of all the people playing Guild Wars, there has to be a handful that would want to buy the OP's rune. So it now becomes his problem to find where those people are. The trading "system" (and I use that term VERY loosely) as it stands now gives him a very slim chance of ever finding those people who want to buy what he's selling. They have to be online, in the same district as him, and watching the fast-flowing spam in the trade/local channels. I truly hope ANet is working on this and has a better trading system ready to implement soon. This does need to be addressed.
Yes from what i have heard from guild mates that have "connection" there will never be a acution house in guild wars, but if one does come, you can slap a bumber sticker on me and call me a tow truck

DFrost

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

Cue stupid question: How do you know which rune it is if you haven't ID'd yet? Is the trick salvaging the armor before identifying it?

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by DFrost
Cue stupid question: How do you know which rune it is if you haven't ID'd yet? Is the trick salvaging the armor before identifying it?
Yes, but you cant distinguish all the runes.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

Can I ask a stupid question? Some rich farmer wanna lend me some money?

no seriously you guys have it so easy and have no idea...

Anyway to the topic at hand Well I have major and minor runes all to the grand count of over 20 and NO ONE WANTS TO BUY! The rune trader is selling the ones I have for around 200g a piece but wanted to buy them from me at 25g so I have been spamming 50g for runes... NO ONE WANTS ONE! I even spammed a "FREE RUNES!" just to get rid of some cause I'm running out of room... no one wanted free runes either.

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mormegil
What is more difficult than beating Nuclear Launch Detected and Sissy Boys at the same time with 60 Dp and a henchmen team?
you call that difficult?

Sair

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Stoats if Necessary

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mormegil
Selling in the Tomb is useless since, apparently, superior rune of vigor is the first rune unlocked by most of the people when they have enough faction.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollj
you call that difficult?
I call that impossible to be honest, and hope you were joking.

quanzong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere cold

The Followers of the Messiah

W/Me

Sissy Boys and Nuclear Launch Detected Guild arent very hard to beat in HoH, guilds I have problems with is Zpzg, and Team Union, those guilds give me hard time. Sissy Boys and Nuclear Launch Detected have plenty of losses, I think they get lucky when they win, because they face guilds that are rated 1000+.

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

Selling Unid'd runes makes more sense from abuyers point of view but less from a sellers point of view. For example, if you need an unid'd major fast casting, you'd be happier to buy an unid'd mesmer major rune than purple or blue armor. And that armor might sell better if it was sold as a slavaged bu unid'd rune. But for a seller, while his gold armor is unsalvaged, it could be superior absorption whch sells at over 80 plat last time I checked.

ratatass

ratatass

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New Mexico

I sell Vigors at the Rune trader, my spending money. Unid sell was to much work.

The rune trader sometimes offers nothing for it...I just keep it in my storage untill the price goes up again to about 40k at the trader, then I sell.

Ratatass

asdar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

It's the fallout from rewards.

The first thing most PvP players I know wanted to unlock was that rune.

If you have nothing unlocked it's only 3500 faction points.

It's almost nothing if you already have major unlocked. One night of GvG and you're done.

Shadow_Avenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Stolen Dreams

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
I've seen people spamming the WTS thing on the trade channels and have talked to several trying to sell things and not being able to or getting ridiculously low offers. I know one person who was trying to sell black dye for 8k (at the time the trader was selling for a bit over 10k) and he couldn't get anyone to buy. The best offer he got was 6k. I don't know if it's just a matter of who happens to be around when you are and what district you're sitting in or what. Maybe an auction would be a better option instead of trying to sell IG?
Its like that in real life, why should I pay £500 for that sofa, when I can wait 2 weeks for the sale and get it for £300.
Nobody will buy things if they are priced too high, even if you are selling cheaper than the trader. Simple as that. The actual trader system inplace works of the ammount of runes available, i.e. the more they have the cheaper they are to buy. (the more players have sold to them the lower they buy / sell for.)
If you all really want to drive the prices up you would need everyone never to sell to traders. But the effect of this would mean traders prices would be sky high, and you run the risk of the majority just not buying as it is just not worth it.
Personally I would never pay more than 4 plat for any item. For weapons it would have to be something really special to pay more than 1 plat for. It is too easy to find stuff in game. In fact it is easier to find the stuff than it is to save up the 40 plat that some times is asked for.

YellowMarker161

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
Sissy Boys and Nuclear Launch Detected Guild arent very hard to beat in HoH, guilds I have problems with is Zpzg, and Team Union, those guilds give me hard time. Sissy Boys and Nuclear Launch Detected have plenty of losses, I think they get lucky when they win, because they face guilds that are rated 1000+.
I guess you changed guilds from your avator, because your guild isn't even ranked.

quanzong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere cold

The Followers of the Messiah

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowMarker161
I guess you changed guilds from your avator, because your guild isn't even ranked.
My guild is friendly base guild, not rating hungry. But I bet those guilds that are top made it there facing other newbie guilds, and loss to other strong guilds.

mrpo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

I had a really nice selection of minor runes, couldnt give them away neither, so I tried to flog a job lot 10 for 1K (merchant price nearly double). The grief I had from people wanting to see *each* one, I nearly cried.

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

[Nu] wouldn't be hard to beat, anymore, as most of them have ditched Guild Wars. Sissy Boys would put up enough of a fight, though.

Nazutul

Nazutul

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Or Die Trying

Mo/W

Got one for 38k yesterday, guess I'm just lucky.

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue
[Nu] wouldn't be hard to beat, anymore, as most of them have ditched Guild Wars. Sissy Boys would put up enough of a fight, though.
Many Nu ditched? That's not what I heard. But if you mean they're on holiday, well, summer strikes guilds hard.

Basing on some days ago, they're still one of the most difficult Guilds to beat.

Visions jdd

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Nuclear Launch Detected

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
Sissy Boys and Nuclear Launch Detected Guild arent very hard to beat in HoH, guilds I have problems with is Zpzg, and Team Union, those guilds give me hard time. Sissy Boys and Nuclear Launch Detected have plenty of losses, I think they get lucky when they win, because they face guilds that are rated 1000+.
Go back to being a clueless nub quazong.

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowMarker161
I guess you changed guilds from your avator, because your guild isn't even ranked.
Don't bother reading his posts, he's full of shit. I've never seen Team Union in tombs (I believe they're a GvG-only guild) and ZPZG is usually pugging or otherwise just messing around in tombs. Neither guild takes the tournament seriously.

Peace,
-CxE

Warskull

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2005

[out]

The problem is they completely broke the trader's. The traders used to give you a fairly decent cut, but now they give you almost nothing for a rune. For a rune that sells for 2000 you are lucky to get 500 from the trader. Thus no one sells to the trader anymore. They need to change what the trader gives players so people sell to him like when he was originally implemented.

The other problem is you are selling it in lion's arch, home of clueless idiots. People would rather buy the chance to get a superior vigor rune (for 5k a try) than a superior vigor rune.

Mithie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Rest En Pieces [RIP]

Me/W

I played vs. Nu once... four of my teammembers went down in the first 2 minutes, then they put up frozen soil. GG.

Nad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue
[Nu] wouldn't be hard to beat, anymore, as most of them have ditched Guild Wars. Sissy Boys would put up enough of a fight, though.
Thats not exactly whats going on, its more like we're (Nu) idling until theres a patch. Right now Tombs is just broken, spirit spam makes the game retardedly boring.

And there are so many smurf guilds in gvg its equally retarded. We played Uni's smurf the other day, if we won we would have earned 3 rating, but we lost so we lost 25 rating. So lame.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

I just throw the runes into my trash icon...they're useless.