Homes and Guild Wars

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

I think its a good , idea

I think however that the "furniture" type gears should be made by collectors/crafters, using suitable materials like wood, bone, stone slabs, etc

This especially since some of the collectors/crafters out there now are really kinda pointless.

The house could be selected from of the "non entrable" houses in the cities or towns

Chrisby Pwns

Chrisby Pwns

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Legionnaires of Tyria [LoT]

N/Me

u spelt enterable wrong

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roupe
I think however that the "furniture" type gears should be made by collectors/crafters
No! It's bad enough I have to leave a big city, the hub of civilization, and go out into the jungle and fight drakes and giants and trolls just to get paper and leather! The last thing I want to do is carry 50 granite slabs out into the woods and fight Rotscale just so I can find the guy who builds couches.

kg_lildude1

kg_lildude1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lionheart Braves [LHB]

W/

/signed

i want house!!!
instead of paying xxx,xxx gold for it you should also have the option of building it yourself
you can use what ever materials you like, but keep in mind making a house out of feathers or out of linen might be out of the question, i would luv to see a fur house on the top of the shiverpeaks , or a wood house with scale's roofing, so you get blinding when you look at it

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
I'm just saying wouldnt a new Home just be like a secondary Guild Hall? Also the Guild Hall should cost WAY more then a house, not the other way around.
Maybe, but how many Soldiers from 1190 AD do you know that had their own mansion?

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

wow

well, all the stuff we have said here about adding this or that to the guild hall has been said in here

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=37949

lets not get the *homes* thread mixed up and get it locked or merged *grin*

homes as part of the hall, yeah, as a option, but not forced.
what about the folks that ether never join a guild for whatever reason, or keep getting tossed in the trash by the *ahem* more focused guilds that want you to be on all day, every day, and if your not, well, you just taking up a slot that a 24-7 guy would be more usefull filling? Hmmm?

also, dont forget the smaller guilds. if they did the merger thing, what about them? would YOU want to loose the house you set up and worked ages on to fill with cool stuff, just cause it clashes with the spot the *bigger* guilds officer poped HIS house in?

make it optional, and maybe slightly cheaper for a in guild home, theres usually plenty of room at the edges of the islands. and make sure that in GvG, all doors are locked, so no one can hide in their homes then ambush ^^

pets staying at nome, not bad ^^ saves selling them to that tamer guy, i dont fully trust him, he looks dodgey to me....
then i could have a couple of pets without selling.

theres no reason you cant make stuff at home, like food and beer ect, so long as it is sort of decorative, it dosent do anything, its like a prop if you will.
storeage...maybe, but if your guild did the personal store setup, even if you got both that AND the house store, they would be the same box, its only fair.
why should some people get 2 boxes per character of personal stuff, just cause they are in a guild?

shady_knife

shady_knife

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Australia, Victoria

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
1. You have Xunlai Storage that follows you
2. You have Private Message that you can chat with friends secretly, also you have the ability to go anywhere in a second to chat with friends in a place, also Guild Hall.
3. Homes would just be like Guild Hall
4.Guild Halls are already expensive, and having 1 home for 1 person cost 200k, thats WAY more expensive then guild hall itself.

or. they could just add house's to the guild islands, each player gets a lil house.

that would the make the guild halls worth it, there just boring atm

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
No! It's bad enough I have to leave a big city, the hub of civilization, and go out into the jungle and fight drakes and giants and trolls just to get paper and leather! The last thing I want to do is carry 50 granite slabs out into the woods and fight Rotscale just so I can find the guy who builds couches.
Well, many collectors set up camp just outside the city/village gates, so It wouldnt be to much of a worry.

But to put your mind at ease, I think the merchants should be able to sell most furniture as well. I just didnt like the idea of getting a couches from killing Rotscale, etc. Its hard as it is to get drops of stuff to make paper and leather already. (even if I probably could salvage leather from the couches)

johnnylange

johnnylange

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

USA/Near Chicago

The Divine Darkness <TDDG>

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
...The last thing I want to do is carry 50 granite slabs out into the woods and fight Rotscale just so I can find the guy who builds couches.
LMAO! I just like how you put that. Edge is like "damit! I'm tired of crafting already and you want to add more!?"

Us: Lol, Well, Yeah!

quanzong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere cold

The Followers of the Messiah

W/Me

Maybe adding house in Guild Hall be worth it. But buying a personal house for 200K? Wow thats muy expensive, 4 guild halls.

Selerious

Selerious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Veneratio Tutela

R/Me

/signed
Go the homes.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

WTS GOLD MAX DRAINAGE TOILET "S" PIPE 12K!!!

Eh, I don't really see the point in having a house... I think a guild is close enough. I think they could improve a lot of the guilds though...

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

Kai, a house is usefull for more than just standing about in...

for one, its a small isolated PRIVATE place you can take someone, say, your rl honey...your rl girlfriend/boyfriend or spouse/partner.
(assuming you want to do that sorta thing in game, or so on.)

this means you dont get told off if your in a guild and you started sweet talking them in the hall ^^. and what if your sweetie isnt in your guild? you can at least take them to your house and show them all the neat stuff you killed


as to Guild halls are good enough....ok, maybe they are to those who want to join a guild with a cape that has one. but what about those that have no cape, cause they dont like capes? they cant have a hall, so a house is a good alternative for a small guild that say, has less than 10 memebers and is casual.
or for those that dont want guilds at all.

yes, yes, i know its called guild wars....heard that too amny times now, yadda,yadda...but there are loners out there, and those that dont wanna join. a house gives them something to aim at, since they have usually got no intention of joining a guild, or even making one just for themselves.

think of houses as an alternative to a guild hall if you are a small guild or a loner.

Andy of Glacieria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

pD-Paladins of the Dark

W/Mo

OK the mansion idea is overpriced and dropping furni would suck bigtime. It would just be ur HQ where u d invite peeps to party, it would be premade. It would absoultely suck if the houses were too expensive... It would just lead to ANOTHER community breakdown :P it would be great if u got one after finishing the storyline... or a series of new (hard) quests I say this should be made... seriously cause this is an idea... besides i dun care if its a strategy or shooter or RPG or cheap arcade game if i like it

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayea
Kai, a house is usefull for more than just standing about in...

Really? lets hear your examples then.

for one, its a small isolated PRIVATE place you can take someone, say, your rl honey...your rl girlfriend/boyfriend or spouse/partner.


this means you dont get told off if your in a guild and you started sweet talking them in the hall ^^. and what if your sweetie isnt in your guild? you can at least take them to your house and show them all the neat stuff you killed

Like I said, sweet talk them using the Whisper feature.

as to Guild halls are good enough....ok, maybe they are to those who want to join a guild with a cape that has one. but what about those that have no cape, cause they dont like capes? they cant have a hall, so a house is a good alternative for a small guild that say, has less than 10 memebers and is casual.
or for those that dont want guilds at all.

Er, so what? If your guild doesn't have a cape or guild hall and you don't like it, leave and go somewhere else or what not. It's really not that hard. You can be casual in a guild hall, I always am. And FYI it's Guild Wars not House Wife Wars.

yes, yes, i know its called guild wars....heard that too amny times now, yadda,yadda...but there are loners out there, and those that dont wanna join. a house gives them something to aim at, since they have usually got no intention of joining a guild, or even making one just for themselves.

If you're a loner then who would you be showing your house to exactly? Just buy a guild and a cape that's unique to you. It only costs 2,100 for all of it which, being a loner, isn't going to be hard to do since you're working for everything on your own.

think of houses as an alternative to a guild hall if you are a small guild or a loner.

Again, why would you have a house if you're a loner? Guild halls are in no way bad for small guilds either, they are great, you can wander around in a huge back yard. I suggest the fire one because if you venture out in your play area you can find a cool head room place. It's perfect for any small guild, as are a lot of others.
All in all, I don't see the point of a house. Besides, if you're a loner, getting up enough money to buy a house would be around as much as a guild hall, and a guild hall is better than a house in many ways, so I'd just go ahead and get a little more money to buy the house. And if you are a loner, you need to realize that this is a cooperative game, you are to simple minded if you think that because you are a warrior who can run through everything that you're awesome and don't need anyone.

johnnylange

johnnylange

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

USA/Near Chicago

The Divine Darkness <TDDG>

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
All in all, I don't see the point of a house. Besides, if you're a loner, getting up enough money to buy a house would be around as much as a guild hall, and a guild hall is better than a house in many ways, so I'd just go ahead and get a little more money to buy the house. And if you are a loner, you need to realize that this is a cooperative game, you are to simple minded if you think that because you are a warrior who can run through everything that you're awesome and don't need anyone.
Some just like to solo so they can get all the drop and gold.

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

i whant a house in the northern kryta province in the ascalon settlement every morning when you wake up an ettin destroyed your house or once in a while ettins or other mobs infest your home for a tea-party

ether

ether

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Sweden

Mo/N

If you want a house go play sims or second life, don't really se the point to have one in gw..

Evlesoa

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

NYC

I TOTALY WANT A HOUSE! Be like a Crack Trader and trade Rare Items and stuff. Like a secret hideout! Totaly
/signed

madness2k4

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
i whant a house in the northern kryta province in the ascalon settlement every morning when you wake up an ettin destroyed your house or once in a while ettins or other mobs infest your home for a tea-party
I want a house in uw so I can eat smite crawlers for breakfast :P

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

or one in the southern shiverpeaks at some point an stone summit dwarves knocks on the door may i have a cup of sugar?

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

ahem.

kai, you need to be a little more polite.

things such as romantic shtick that most males hate.
i can just imagine the reaction of a standard teenage male population guild to somehting cheesy and romantic..its called the Kick from Guild functon.

FYI i am Not a warrior type, i play mainly Necro's, so your assumpiton that i am thick headed and think highly of myself is wrong. i dont think im indestructable, nor that i am the server gods gift to the game, like some people do.

if the game was solely about co-operation, why the frell are their henchmen? so that if you, the PLAYER choose to go it alone without human players, who, lets be frank, sometimes are just not up to team playing outside of the PvP side, and even then, a gang of henchies are often better.

i am quite happy in groups, as i am alone.
i have my own guild, but since, like many other players, i hate the look of the capes, i have no hall yet. if they implement the Cape Toggle, like so many players here have been begging them to, this will solve a lot of problems and those of us that dislike capes will be sorted and get halls.

what those of us who would like homes are saying, is that why should a player be forced to join a guild with a hall if they just want a building of their own.
or for small guilds.
lets face it, theres a lot of guilds that are small, around 10 or under members, i know, as mine is under 10.

a house can be an alternative to an expensive hall, specially if the cost is not included in the rise and fall of the economy, perhaps instead as a long, hard quest reward.

i guess im gona make my own assumption here...your a PvP player that plays no PvE, yes?
you are not realy interested in Roleplaying games, but in the player killing aspect of guild wars, the idea of whole guilds running about fighting and killing eachother is waht drew you to this game, i would say.

so, just because you do not like to roleplay, no one else should?

if you dont like houses, simply dont buy them. the same as what others say about guild halls and capes.

i personaly like guild wars. i play solely in the PvE section. THAT is what drew me, not PvP.
i could say, since i dont like PvP, it should be removed from the game and we could all go stand about and /emote a whole lot in the towns and speak in strange languages and so on....

but i wont, because i know other players enjoy PvP and i know i do not have the right to dictate how they have fun or play the game.

i sugest you think that thorough and see if you would like someone telling you how to play the game by their rules and in their way befor youtell others how to play.

Drake_Grievous

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Zealots of War (ZoW)

W/Mo

yeah I dig this idea, make like a new town thats just all player houses. could be fun

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

hmmmm and you would be put on a list to buy an house

whos da man

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

lee-wink

W/Me

i want a house. It would be like a bank and a hideout, and besides going naked is fun

darth_kyle

darth_kyle

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hyrule

Guild Troopers

W/Mo

Now homes would be a good implimentation, kinda like Tibia...but cool

Kyten

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Aimless Wanderers

E/Me

i just thought of something maybe to customize your house maybe you could make it show exactly how rich you are for example your housle might look normal but all ghostly and transparent BECAUSE IT MADE OF ECTO! it could just be a way to brag but hey it gives ppl sumthin to do. or made o fthose shadowy remnants i get all the time in groups in fow and i would just like it to be like the gh just a certain spot thats pre picked but you oculd choose where it appears, for example only in areas you cant get to, for example an ecto house floating over the water next to your gh or in the water next to ascalon but at one point youd see huge piles of houses so id probably just leave it at the gh-ish idea

TopGun

TopGun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I would like to see homes, but if you've ever done any programming or 3D art at all, you'd know that people who say "It wouldn't be tough to implement" are simply ignorant. It amazes me how artists and programs synch to create the experience we have today in video games. They work HARD. So, while I would like to see it, because it would function well as a massive gold sink and as a novelty item, it would be difficult to implement, not in concept, but in actual work. Don't believe me? Go to www.cgtalk.com and see the kind of work those guys do. Incredible, breathtaking shit. But they've worked for years to get to that point. So before you make an ignorant smart-ass remark that it's "easy" to implement anything in a game, educate yourself.

But, /yes for homes. My vote is cast.

PostScript: LOTS of issues come about with homes. If I want to show mine off to a friend, can I get them into the instance with me? What if I want an inter-guild battle, could I have that outside the house? How big are houses? As big as halls? A few feet of space? There are lots of questions that go with this, it isn't easy...

quanzong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere cold

The Followers of the Messiah

W/Me

Whats so special about house?
You have flight travel to anywhere in the game. A house is suppose to be a rest stop for weary travlers that walk or go hunting.
Now if this game was like Morrowind or Everquest, where travel takes forever, a house would be nice. But until then a house would just be a guild hall, with nothing to do in it.

Kyten

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Aimless Wanderers

E/Me

thats why i proposed the indoors training area earlier where you could purchase creatures to train your skills on, or just use run skills for fun

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

spme pleople have sugested rangers could keep thir pets in their homes..i like that idea, i could have more than one pet..i want my melandru, but a lynx and if there are any, other cats..and maybe a pair of wolves..a normal and a shiverpeaks

yes, pretty homes are hard to make. but what about 5 or so standard homes, all with the same outside, or insides. with only the fixtures and fittings as changeable?
loners have frineds too, but usually, our friends are on different time sheduals to us.
i work 6 days a wee, while my best frieinds usually at home thru the day.
i am often on the game after 6pm, but off it at midnight, where as he is on mid day to8pm ish of weeknights, and can sometimes be seen from 9 at night till the wee hours of the morning. so who says a loner has no one to show thier home to?!

for some, homes would be just another thing to aquire, someithng on the list to get, so they have everything.
others, they would simply be for storeage and planning meatings, theres no reason that you could not take your party into your home. just have a setting that is on or off, and lets you take frineds into house.
me and others like me? we would probably also roleplay in them...sit on the floor befor the fireplace and tell stories...stuff like that..or maybe to check out emotes without looking a daft bugger

if the insides were all the same, it would surely keep the hard work of making *different* homes down to a minimum, since it would be the player who would decorate it

Hell Marauder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Since anet is going to make an observation mode, how about watching a gvg match free at your own home, but need to buy a ticket watching anywhere else.

And make home a rental housing, which you have to pay a monthly rent or you'll lose your home. That will make a great gold sink !

Oh, and use dyes for interior decoration. That will require a lot of dyes, and again a great gold sink as well.

quanzong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere cold

The Followers of the Messiah

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Marauder
Since anet is going to make an observation mode, how about watching a gvg match free at your own home, but need to buy a ticket watching anywhere else.

And make home a rental housing, which you have to pay a monthly rent or you'll lose your home. That will make a great gold sink !

Oh, and use dyes for interior decoration. That will require a lot of dyes, and again a great gold sink as well.
This is 13th century fighting, you dont have TVs to watch you goto the colloseum and watch the fight there.
BTW a house would just be as boring as Guild Hall then you will hear more complaints about GW. And then Anet will have an additional problem. I say fix up the Guild Hall 1st.

Undead Hero

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

Novo Mundumum

R/

What does the Red letters stand for.................... New expansion things?

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undead Hero
What does the Red letters stand for.................... New expansion things?

Red letters? Hmmmm.....I'm guessing that you were using the search and those red letters are the words you were looking up??? Maybe?



But anyway while this thread is up I might as well comment. A House would be nice to have. Would be great for some extra storage and having multiple pets and other things. Not sure about the collecting furniture stuff. That might be a little difficult for Anet to do. Maybe in some future expansion/chapter.

Loch

Loch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Every guild can get its own Guild Hall. I think that's enough.

benmanhaha

benmanhaha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

nowhere!!!

N/Mo

I want a summer home in pre-searing ascalon. i want it to look like this.

sweet yes?

(that was 5 minutes well spent, 3 minutes of that was looking up the picture )

a yea and
/signed

Gadai Fiagai

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

Urbana, IL

Flying Frog Brigade

R/E

/signed

To be quite honest, I think the addition of houses would add an entirely new and exciting dynamic to GW. For a while now it seems as though the appeal has been that GW is more action-RPG and less MMO. However, since it is still considered an MMORPG, I believe houses would, if implemented, make GW much more MMO, which for some would be a real hook.

Those who want their fraternity guild halls are still more than welcome to purchase them and live with their fellow guild brothers. However, those who want a more peaceful lifestyle in the world of Tyria would be able to spend time saving up for something other than 15k or obsidian armor (which would add much more replay value to PvE). Not only could houses cost potentially exorbitant amounts of gold (thus increasing the urge to farm places like UW and FoW for items to sell), but they could also require certain large amounts of the crafting materials that go highly ignored throughout one's GW experience. Depending on the type of house you want, an NPC architect could provide you with a house that requires large amounts of wood, stone (ie granite slabs), clay bricks (for those who wish to dwell in adobe abodes in perhaps the Crystal desert *pun intended*), or other items that we always get so much of and that goes to such little use.

Of course houses aren't necessary to enjoying GW, but pseudo-professions that spend their time farming for crafting materials and selling them on the market, or buying houses and fixing them up (which could be another implementation: house add-ons for certain prices) with either additions or refurnishings and re-selling them for a higher price, or those who want to rent their house on the D'Alessio Seaboard to some new-comer for a month or two and thus serving as quasi-landlords could potentially boon the economy out of its current weird funk. With a focus diverting from solely items and dyes and what-have-you, perhaps prices would drop as more gold gets circulated instead of stored away.

At any rate, I whole-heartedly give my /signature to this idea.