Fiery Sword Drops?

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

D/Me

Alright I'm erked again. I am taking my character through ascension and on the Elona mission where you reassemble the shards, I have had a serious bug repeatedly. I did the mission and bonus, no problem there. My issue is with a specific drop.

First time I did this mission with a friend from my FPS clan. I nailed an "Enchanted Sword" and he drops the sword I have been looking for for AGES. It's the sword that Rurik uses. It did like 16~20 damage. However, it was assigned to my friend who can't use it. No biggy, I can do the mission again, right?

I went through that damn mission over twenty times last night, both helping others through it and soloing with henchmen. Apparently it won't drop with henchmen, and with other players it REFUSES to drop it for me! I had it drop probably close to a dozen times and not once did I get it. WTF do I have to do to get it?! I am SERIOUSLY feeling cheated out of my long sought-after goal. I mean this is probably the biggest disappointment to date. I know the sword is rare, but damnit if I stay up until 7am trying to get one and it will either drop for allies (who either won't give it up or ask insane amounts of cash for it) or just not at all, I should get SOMETHING. The last three or four runs it stopped showing up at all.

So, how cna I force the game to act right? I mean I'm ready to write a bot to go into that mission and do it over and over until it has that item. It's just freaking wrong to show somebody what they've wanted the whole f***ing game and continually assign it to others or not allow you to get it period.

Sekkendou

Sekkendou

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The firey dragon swords are a rather random drop like most drops in the game. Even max damage ones aren't THAT rare though. Try using the trade channel in either old ascalon or lion's arch. The lion's arch zone is the generaly accepted barter zone. Expect to pay around 5-10k for a max damage firey dragon sword, more if it has good mods on it. Honestly though, you should be able to find a good deal since most power gamers have moved on to newer sword envy like fellblades or the much sought after crystaline swords.

velvetbunny

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Griffins in prophets path. When i use to farm them i would get fiery dragon swords like mad, even lots of purple max dmg ones and a few golds.

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

D/Me

Thanks bunny. See I wanted to earn the thing, not pay somebody for it. I just feel SERIOUSLY ripped-off because I worked so hard. Helped so damn many, and had so many drop, and none were for me, it was just a REAL pisser and even though I now know where I can probably find one, I am extremely angry because of all the unrewarded work I did last night.

I will go abck to those griffons and stay there for an hour or two. See when I went through there, they didn't drop ANYTHING, so it may have been nerfed.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Going back to those griffons is a good idea, because they drop a lot of dragon swords.

Those swords aren't very sought-after, though, as you can't mod them. I'm guessing you can get a max damage dragon sword with some sort of enchantment for 1500 gold at Lions Arch. I've salvaged several after not finding any buyers. Everyone wants fellblades, fellblades, and only fellblades.

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

D/Me

Damnit, I've been playing there since I last posted and no fire sword. I am so getting pissed with hwo the game started working since they made an economy and nerfed everything. You work your butt off and come close to death only to succeed and you still can't get jack! I swear to God this game doesn't reward you for ANYTHING.

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

damn noobs and your fiery dragon swords... and ur even a warrior/monk to HA!!! (although it is a great farming combo)

Synxernal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

You can buy one from 800g-2k.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Uh - the griffons aren't nerfed in any way. They still drop lots of fiery dragon swords, you've just been unlucky.
Or you've farmed there so long the drops have dried up. Try hitting some other area for a while, then return there.

Blow_Holez

Blow_Holez

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mascoutah, Illinois

Dragon Busters (DB)

R/Me

Fiery dragon sword arn't all that great. neat looking, but you can't mod em. You can spend as much time as you want farming and still not get an item you have been looking for. Just trade for one with all the stuff you have found farming!

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

D/Me

Can't find anybody with one. I'm just going to flame ANet on this one. I mean coem on, over a dozen drops and each one assigned to an elementalist or monk or even a necro. That's just wrong. I've farmed all over the desert today and not found anything. They need to increase drops again, plain and simple. I cleared the entire "Prophets Path" area the first time I was told to go there, and I managed to get two wings, a hammer (normal), and about 400 gold. Big freaking whoop. For the number of monsters in game, I'd say drops are at a 2~3% ratio, WAY too low for the player-count in GW.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Uh so you're complaining because you can't find something specific?

Fiery Dragon Swords, SUCK. Period. Go buy a max damage long sword you can get one for like 100 gold from some person.

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

D/Me

I don't want it as a primary use thing, I want it as a show-off item. Anyway I got a max-damage dragon-sword now, and I have my normal max-damage purple shocking longsword of shelter. Thing is, both do the same damage. My purple sword does electrical damage and my dragon-sword does fire damage. Purple does +5 armor and my dragon-sword, thanks to an upgrade I'd kept, does armor +4. Both fare almost the same on the battlefield, though I wonder if the dragon-sword will do better against ice monsters.

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

Just fyi, no one is going to be impressed with you rfiery dragon sword. Practically every w/x has one that they carry around thinking they are uber leet.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Those things aren't that hard to come by. Ignore the fellow who said you'd have to cough up 5-10K for a max one. They realy aren't that rare or unique. You can easily get a max clean Fiery Dragon Sword for 1-2K.

As for the upgrades, you can only add a pommel, as the hilt is stuck on a permanent 'fire hilt' so to speak.

And some of us have them because we actualy have a use for them. They are excellent weapons to use in conjunction with Conjure Flame and/or Mark of Rodgort.

XENOGEARSHARINGAN

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

AUDE

R/

one place plain and simple,

marhan grotto. if you step outside there is a chest which drops items i have gotten up to 6 fiery dragon swords in one day. this chest is well known and one way to make money you can make 2.6k-4k in 15 min.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by knives
Just fyi, no one is going to be impressed with you rfiery dragon sword. Practically every w/x has one that they carry around thinking they are uber leet.
In fact you'd get the exact opposite. If someone tried showing off a FDS I don't care if it's 10/10 sundering 30 life 15%>50% I'd call them a noob.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by knives
Just fyi, no one is going to be impressed with you rfiery dragon sword. Practically every w/x has one that they carry around thinking they are uber leet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MCS
In fact you'd get the exact opposite. If someone tried showing off a FDS I don't care if it's 10/10 sundering 30 life 15%>50% I'd call them a noob.
Just where do you guys find all these people trying to show off Fierys? I've certainly never had anyone claim to be any better just because they were sporting one of those things.

And I somehow doubt many noobs run around with 10/10 sundering 30 life 15%>50% swords unless they bought an account.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy diamond
Just where do you guys find all these people trying to show off Fierys? I've certainly never had anyone claim to be any better just because they were sporting one of those things.

And I somehow doubt many noobs run around with 10/10 sundering 30 life 15%>50% swords unless they bought an account.
Anyone using a FDS is using it to look leet. Using an FDS is showing off. Or attempting to.

Gold isn't hard to get at all and yes lots of noobs ebay.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by MCS
Anyone using a FDS is using it to look leet. Using an FDS is showing off. Or attempting to.
Or maybe they just like it. Not everything is some big e-penis contest.

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

D/Me

MCS, you're missing the point. I now have two of my four swords. One does fire damage (max at that), one does lightning damage (max again), and both add armor. Now for ice and whatever else I can dig up. Dunno' why you feel so damn angry towards the sword, but it is useful and it does look cool. I've had others on other accounts, but messed up and made them customized. These will be used by me for eons.

Also, not to stray from the topic, but I swear this game can tick me off at times. I spend a whole night looking for that sword and can't get crap, and waste several hours on it today, and then my friends and I have four drop for me in "The Scar" on the way to "Thirsty River", and all were mine. WTF?! None were max like my first one though !

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Since you're not even customizing them a max damage long sword that is customized would probably do more damage to any unit making your strategy obsolete.

I'm not trying to insult you I'm trying to tell you that FDS's suck.

Elemental damage is rather worthless anyway.

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baratus
None were max like my first one though !
I had something similar happen to me as well. My first Fiery was a max gold with +1 Swordsmanship and +13% while in a stance. I have not had another max Fiery drop since, let alone a gold one. And I've gone through a lot of them. Usualy I just sell them off to the newer crowd or just give them away. I don't care to spend 2 hours sitting around waiting for a buyer for something thats not going to get me more than 1 or 2 plats.


Quote:
Originally Posted by MCS
I'm not trying to insult you I'm trying to tell you that FDS's suck.

Elemental damage is rather worthless anyway.
Not when you combine them with Conjure Element spells, and the fire line also has Mark of Rodgort.

And FDS's just have a permanent 'fire hilt', beyond that its just another sword.

Realy, I don't see whats the big deal either way you slice it. It's not the greatest thing in the world, but its also not the worst thing you can have.

Baratus

Baratus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Elizabethtown, NC

Deathkings of The Dark Citadel

D/Me

Well it just shows you either used the FDS wrong at one time, did not/do not know how to use it, or maybe just don't like it in general. I find that against ice beasts it does more damage than my lightning sword. It is useful in that aspect. Also, customization means no resale, it means your future characters cannot use it, and it means only 1~6 extra damage per hit. 20% of a standard 30hp hit is ONLY 6. Not enough to really matter, unless you're into PvP I guess.

*EDIT*

Yeah both of mine are standard blue. I'd kill for a golden one! My ideal character, just to be buffed and look cool, would be golden swords, one for each elemental type. Doubt that will EVER happen, but one can hope. I also plan on saving the other FDS (14~20dam) for guild-mates. It'd be cool to have the guild use them one day to help train newbies and all. We'd stand out, so to speak.

MCS

MCS

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Well it just shows you either used the FDS wrong at one time, did not/do not know how to use it, or maybe just don't like it in general. I find that against ice beasts it does more damage than my lightning sword. It is useful in that aspect. Also, customization means no resale, it means your future characters cannot use it, and it means only 1~6 extra damage per hit. 20% of a standard 30hp hit is ONLY 6. Not enough to really matter, unless you're into PvP I guess.
Why would you have multiple warriors? What is the point? Only one char should ever have to use those swords.

re-sale is also pointless as the most you'd get for them would be like 1k if you're lucky. I don't know if 1k sounds like a lot to you or not but if it does then it won't once you get farther into the game.

Quote:
Not when you combine them with Conjure Element spells, and the fire line also has Mark of Rodgort.

And FDS's just have a permanent 'fire hilt', beyond that its just another sword.
The permnant fire hilt is why it sucks. Even for PvE there are far better uses for your energy than that. Conjure flame MAYBE because it lasts 60 seconds so you'll just recharge before you have to use it again but then you have to put all those points into fire for it to even matter.

Olfin Bedwere

Olfin Bedwere

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Stillwater, Oklahoma

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MCS
Why would you have multiple warriors? What is the point?
The point is , THAT`S THE @#$&ING WAY HE WANTS TO PLAY THE GAME! Really, some of you people need to get over your selves. Noob this and that sucks that. Who are you that your so "733t" to say.

"Hi, my names Olfin and....uh.....I carry a Fiery Dragon Sword."
"Hi, Olfin"
"Yeah, I ...uh...just picked it up because I own the game and just wanted one, I.....uh....also carry an Aegis Shield although it`s crap and I have the Pre-Order Targe shield which is better."
"Ohhh Nooo Olfin, you MUST give up your noobish ways...."

PLEASE

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baratus
Can't find anybody with one. I'm just going to flame ANet on this one. I mean coem on, over a dozen drops and each one assigned to an elementalist or monk or even a necro. That's just wrong. I've farmed all over the desert today and not found anything.
What? You weren't alone? Youcan't expect to get a lot of drops if you're not alone.
Quote:
They need to increase drops again, plain and simple. I cleared the entire "Prophets Path" area the first time I was told to go there, and I managed to get two wings, a hammer (normal), and about 400 gold. Big freaking whoop. For the number of monsters in game, I'd say drops are at a 2~3% ratio, WAY too low for the player-count in GW.
2-3%?!? Haha... You're bringing henchmen, aren't you?

Just to rub things in - late yesterday...
http://mikes-machine.mine.nu/temp/screens/gw230.jpg

EDIT: Ok, Ok, not all drops are like that, that's a good drop. Some are just griffin wings and money.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Fiery Dragon Swords are for noobs, but if you want to be one, fine with me..

Olfin Bedwere

Olfin Bedwere

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Stillwater, Oklahoma

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
Fiery Dragon Swords are for noobs, but if you want to be one, fine with me..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Olfin Bedwere
The point is , THAT`S THE @#$&ING WAY HE WANTS TO PLAY THE GAME! Really, some of you people need to get over your selves. Noob this and that sucks that. Who are you that your so "733t" to say.

"Hi, my names Olfin and....uh.....I carry a Fiery Dragon Sword."
"Hi, Olfin"
"Yeah, I ...uh...just picked it up because I own the game and just wanted one, I.....uh....also carry an Aegis Shield although it`s crap and I have the Pre-Order Targe shield which is better."
"Ohhh Nooo Olfin, you MUST give up your noobish ways...."

PLEASE
Didn`t feel like retyping.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
Fiery Dragon Swords are for noobs, but if you want to be one, fine with me..
Hearing that makes me want to get one.

ratatass

ratatass

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New Mexico

Quote:
Originally Posted by MCS
Uh so you're complaining because you can't find something specific?

Fiery Dragon Swords, SUCK. Period. Go buy a max damage long sword you can get one for like 100 gold from some person.
They look good though....

Ratatass

Chrono Cross

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/N

Dunno why everyone is bashing on the fiery swords. More than half the groups my warrior is in does more dmg than any of the other warriors with their max dmg fellblades any junk. My sword is max dmg +12% while in stance.

DFrost

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Hearing that makes me want to get one.
Ditto.

And I play a ranger

seraphite86

seraphite86

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida

Talk Less More [Sekz]

Rt/E

I know a Fiery Dragon Sword isn't an end-all weapon but it still great use for the 12-16 level range. Use it on my Level 14 warrior and it's much better than the max damage axes I've been finding on my other character.

Baratus if you want a FDS I could just give you one. I have three at the moment. They're not that great though.

gurada

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/Mo

fds, sucks

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

I don't really care what sword you use, but using a FDS to show off? I won't be impressed.

And don't be so pissed about drops. Most likely you're going with henchmen, so no wonder you're not getting as many drops. And you get WAY more than 2-3%. Going solo, you get almost 1 drop a monster, so the percentage with 6 henchment would be closer to 16-17%.

ZD_kusanagi

ZD_kusanagi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

SLC

The Naked Dragon

Mo/Me

whats with you people that say FDS suck? how do they suck seriously. think abou it. you said just get a longsword, its the same thing. ok, granted i IS the same thing, but then.. a fiery dragon sword looks COOl to some people. so would you get the same thing that looks ugly? or the same thing that looks cool. this is the same deal with chaos axes. why arn't people saying chaos axes suck? they are just 'glowy'... nothing special... right? in your logic, all weapons should look the same and do the same thing since obviously, whatever you think of weapons are right, and the best in your mind is obviously the best overall. This is a mmorpg essentially. where the look of your character, the weapons, shields, and gear he has that looks better, is 70% of the time the way people decide on what to buy.
People spend over a mil for fissure armor but why... it does the same thing as 15k armor.. and on the same note obviously.. why buy 15k armor.. it does the same as droknars armor.....

Here's my pretend rant:

ALL ARMOR SHOULD LOOk THE SAME
ALL WEAPONS SHOULD DO THE SAME THING
ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE ALL SKILLS OF ALL CLASSES
IM THE HAXORR
YOUR ALL NOOBS BECAUSE YOU DONT BELIEVE WHAT I SAY
MY WORD IS GOD
I CREATED THIS GAME YOU KNOW
I KNOW WHAT IT SHOULD AND SHOULDNT BE
I KNOW WHAT SKILLS YOU SHOULD USE
I KNOW WHAT ARMOR YOU SHOULD BUY
NO THAT ARMOR SUCKS, DONT USE IT, YOU WILL GET PWNED BUY THE LEETS LIKE ME
USE THIS, SKILL, AND THAT WEAPON, AND THIS ARMOR, or else you will SUKKKKK
BE LIKE ME. DO WHAT I SAY

Rant over... please people.. this game is built around people looking cool, and getting the gear that looks good in conjunction with skills etc. its all about custamization. if they want to use a freaking fiery dragon sword, let them! it's just as good as a longsowrd as you stated, so why not let them just use it?

seraphite86

seraphite86

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida

Talk Less More [Sekz]

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkane
That's probably because you didn't have as many points in axe mastery as swordmanship. With swords you probably had the +1 helm, and a rune. Seeing as you don't normally use axes, I doubt you had a +1 axe helm and an axe rune.
Plus the fact that I'm just going to disagree with you. Axe > Sword.
I love axes. Thing is that I don't even have enough points at the moment to even use the higher-end axes I find. Therefore I'm sticking with the sword until I have enough. Sometimes I regret having a Mesmer as a secondary. Also, no runes yet. Runes are a waste on low-end armour in my opinion.

Tsukiyomi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I don't like Fiery Dragon Swords because Mark of Pain doesn't work with them. So I get pissed when i see warriors with them.

You should get a regular sword.

Frankie Fanelli

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dragons Bane

W/Mo

l would get it just because I like the way it looks.