Prices of Crafting Materials

Laz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

I participated in the past two beta's but I didn't trade a whole lot and I don't want to get cheated in the retail so I was wondering if u guys could help me out with a Buy-Sell Prices list.

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

Well, since a couple Betas ago, the multiplyed all the gold supply in the game by 10. So prices have gone up 10 times but there is 10 times more gold (cause before they couldn't give fractions of a gold coin so 5 gold is = to .5 gold).

I don't know the exact prices of them. They will probably go up and down. It would be nice if the Gurus could piece together a general guidelines list on prices.

Laz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

ya i know that they fluctuate but maybe like a span of say for ex. Hide 5-10 gold Scales-30-50 Gold or something along those lines. I did sell all my crafting stuff to the trader in LA before the end of the beta and i found out that the prices changed as i traded as 10 wood planks went from 50 gold to 10 gold after trading about 50 wood planks. But u are right in we need some guidelines. I don't think they will change the whole economy again considering they would have had less than two weeks to do so

HotSnack

HotSnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Well I'm not sure how the economy will work out, given how everyone will be now working from the ground up. But generally I sell common materials (hides, iron, cloth) for 4-7gp, slightly uncommon materials (parchment) for 15gp, uncommon materials (steel) for 30gp, and the skies the limit for rare materials (silk).

Oh and for all you people who had tried to sell me common materials for 10gp, you're all a bunch of crazies.

Laz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

if ur selling STEEL for 30 gold look me up ingame Lazerous Demnivanni. lol i think u mean iron cuz steel is really rare and like 200 gold

HotSnack

HotSnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Nope, I'm talking steel. It's not common as dirt like hides, but it isn't rare either.

ScottishLegend

ScottishLegend

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

ArchAngels Of Death

W/Mo

The last beta i dint get a single iron
and i wasnt rich either, so i couldnt buy ne
lol
yah i sold a black and silver dye for 250 g (altogether)
I dint want those colors i want like red or blue lol

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

haha... Black is the rarest dye that exists. With Silver being in second place. You could have sold that for over a plat!

The_Communist

The_Communist

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

In your mind!

they cost to much they should give them to me for free i like free things.

HotSnack

HotSnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just salvage iron from metal weapons and (I believe) staves.

Last BWE I sold my more common dyes for 200-300gp. I used the silver and black dyes on myself (hey, it's the last weekend).

Dtach

Dtach

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

haha GW economic's class

Genosha

Genosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Cowville, CA.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HotSnack
Nope, I'm talking steel. It's not common as dirt like hides, but it isn't rare either.
Actually Steel is not common and is not cheap as dirt... It is uncommon and takes a lot of Iron ingots and gold. What you think making it is cheap? I was during the last BWE 1 of the most wealth people, but when it comes down to it I could make Steel which I had resources though, not buy it cheap. In fact the last I knew steel was going for 500g at the least and that was for 1 ingot of steel..

As for the dye, oh well.... Easy come easy go.... I did what ScottishLegend did, sell it for cheap or gave it away and like he said,"He didn't need it". Neither did I. What's the use in having everything, except the best for yourslef? I did!

dbgtboy

dbgtboy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

irl

i quit playing

he never said its cheap as dirt, he said its not common like dirt is, but it isnt rare, so he basically said its an uncommon material, not rare, not common.

HotSnack

HotSnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Genosha
Actually Steel is not common and is not cheap as dirt... It is uncommon and takes a lot of Iron ingots and gold.
Not sure if you've read my post correctly.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if you're paying through the nose making a material you could otherwise salvage for, what you get in reliability you're paying in price.

Laz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

i find that INCREDIBLY HARD TO BELIEVE since I used salvage kits on all my swords and weapons that are not worth keeping or selling and I NEVER got any steel even when i used my expert salvage kits. Iron wasn't terribly rare i got that out of almost every sword that i salvaged. You can craft steel in burgen hot springs for charcoal gold and ingots i think i am correct in saying that steel is much more rare than steel. Black Dye is rare but not un-findable i had one drop and i bought 4 more in LA for around 800-1200 a piece. Below is me in black dye.(THE NECRO)

OrangeArrow

Flame Bait

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mass

Mo/Me

I think trading is a neat part of the game and all but once you get later in the game youll have more money then you know what to do with so in long run it really doesnt matter if you trade with gold.

I didnt farm but by the end of the last bWE I had 7 Platiunum with nothing to buy i could see solo farmer having at least 20 plat

OrangeArrow

Flame Bait

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mass

Mo/Me

steel isnt that rare how far did you get in the game the farther you get the higher the quality of items are and the eaiser it is to get steel

HotSnack

HotSnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz
i find that INCREDIBLY HARD TO BELIEVE since I used salvage kits on all my swords and weapons that are not worth keeping or selling and I NEVER got any steel even when i used my expert salvage kits.
Well then don't believe, I salvaged about 5 steel ingots that weekend, and that was only from salvaging weapons that I thought might have had a special haft or grip.

Edit: and to follow up Orange's post, the likelyhood of getting runes and rare materials from salvage increases with how high end the salvage is.

Laz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

i got just past the temple of ages i was heading north west when my alarm went off and i took off for LA. still 5 steel in 3 days isn't common by any means.

Ander Deathblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

It was funny how jaded some people were. I never sold steel for under 150 gp, but some people felt 30 gp was a lot for a steel ingot. Of course, those people were the ones buying it, not selling it. If you go to lion's arch, people will spend absolutely nothing on items, they expect to get everything for prices as if the gold hasn't multiplied by 10. just name your price when you say you're selling, and they'll harrass you less. Some people will pay lots more than you're asking, some people feel it's their godgiven right to get a steel ingot for 10 gp. oh and I got 11 steel.

HotSnack

HotSnack

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Yes, but I wasn't actively farming either, I only bothered to salvage a weapon (which would have given me steel) if I thought I might get a weapon component from it.

Edit: I guess I just don't bother playing the trading game then Ander. Money is never a big issue for me, and I only bother to sell things because it's better than having it 'deleted' when you sell it to the outfitter.

Laz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

once u get into trading and buying alot then u start to understand the glory of the system. As long as ppl don't know what they have they will sell it for what seems like alot at the beginning but isn't by the middle/end. Like for example I myself in the march beta was in old ascalon ,pre searing, and i got some red dye. I thought wow red dye and sold it for 125 gold... i lol, felt like i cheated him. In the beginning it is alot but not once u get into armor buying wow does taht get pricy!!

Wyld Kard

Wyld Kard

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Cantha

The Dirty Devils [TDD]

Mo/Me

These are my rates of materials and dyes.
(Price fluxes depending on quantity purchased.)

I sell any common crafting material for:
20 - 40 gold.
I sell any rare crafting material (steel and up) for:
60 - 80 gold.
I sell any common dye vials for:
150 - 200 gold.
I sell any rare dye vials (black and silver) for:
250 - 300 gold.

Laz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

hell i want u to come work for me i am starting a Trade business lol i will buy anything off of u. Black dye for less than 500 wow come to me when u get some cuz i need loads.

Galatea Orea

Galatea Orea

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Knights of Temerity

R/Mo

You can't tell anything about how the economy is going to shake out from the beta weekends, particularly the last one. Everything was going to disappear in a few hours, so people had two impulses, frantically trade for what they desperately wanted and pay exorbitant prices to get it; or give it away because it was meaningless.

And, has been alluded to in this thread, two things are going to be strongly at work on the game economy: demand and disinterest. Demand I think we all understand. As for disinterest: If you have no interest in trading as a craft or an art then getting what seems like a fair price for something you don't want is a good trade. Selling it QUICKLY so you don't have to spend valuable game time haggling can also be a virtue.

Hustling and haggling appeal to some people, but not everyone, just like in real life. Some people will always pay the marked price, others will always haggle until they are satisfied they got a deal. The genius of this game is that there is room for both kinds, the quick deal for a fair price and the haggler and huckster. The guy that sold his black dye in two minutes for 100g and got back to fighting was probably just as happy as the guy who spent half an hour selling his for 500g. The point is not that one was a doofus or a chump. The point is, they wanted different things. So just like in real life, Caveat Emptor.

Beelzebubba

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Eyes of the Seer [Seer]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by HotSnack
Yes, but I wasn't actively farming either, I only bothered to salvage a weapon (which would have given me steel) if I thought I might get a weapon component from it.

Edit: I guess I just don't bother playing the trading game then Ander. Money is never a big issue for me, and I only bother to sell things because it's better than having it 'deleted' when you sell it to the outfitter.
This is pretty much exactly the way I am. I did almost no public selling or buying, mostly selling things to the NPC's for WAY less than I could have if I'd sold it publicly.

I gave away everything I couldn't use to friends or guild mates, and they in return kept an eye out for things I might want. I never bought any weapons or crafting materials, I just asked someone on my friends list if they had what I needed. Most were storing the things I asked for, and I was doing the same for them. The only things I sold publicly were Yellow, Blue and Purple items that none of the people on my friends list were interested in. And then, like you said, only because it's better than having it 'deleted' by the NPC.

In my opinion, the economy in most of these types of games is not as important as everyone seems to think.

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz
i find that INCREDIBLY HARD TO BELIEVE since I used salvage kits on all my swords and weapons that are not worth keeping or selling and I NEVER got any steel ....
Salvage and drops are randomly determined, but tend to favor items that aren't vital to armor for your character type. Anet is trying to actively encourage using the trading market. So steel is not particularily rare... unless you're a Warrior or Necro likely to require steel.

If it was too easy, it'd take all the challenge out of the game.

I believe that "uncommon" and "rare" items are only generated from Expert Salvage Kits. Finding cyan-colored weapons that are "highly salvageable" helps too.

The economy will probably be altogether new once the game gets underway, and for the first week, I would expect rare items to be extremely expensive, and then come down again as more people make their way through to the further reaches where they'll get more of these drops.

Supply and demand. So a price guide would be nice, but it's going to take awhile for the economy to stabilize.

Burodsx

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

I don't like trading, and I don't plan to do so unless it's a VERY hard to comeby item that I need to buy/sell.

Sgt Allen

Sgt Allen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

martinsburg missouri, aka hickville USA

well i did ALOT of buying/selling

scales 75-100 gp
shells 10-15
iron 15 always
any common dye (red blue orange etc) 200
silver 300
black 1200
steel 250

id buy at usually a tenth of that, i made ALOT of money this way, but when the game is released, after 2 or 3 weeks, the prices will be better known, and not as high due to ppl actually having time to find their stuff

femto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

seems this thread is a little out of date now, but I'd figure I would bump it rather than start a new one

soo, what ARE the prices of materials now? is there a compiled list of current prices? If not, I need to know specificaly the prices of:

silk
linen
leather