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thestealthcow101

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

01 Aug 2005 at 04:14 - 1

Well, I finally completed thunderhead (

) and got to ember light camp.

i took the quest that shadow has, and decided not to say "LFG" to do a quest, because i haven't had to look for a group to do a quest with since ascalon. i grabbed the henchies and ran out, expecting to be killed in half a second.

after avoiding those hydras, i got to some white mantle. through previous experiences with henchmen and white mantle, i expected 8 mobs to be on me while the henchmen charge around in random circles. but no...they actually HELPED. A LOT.

i know the henchmen's AI was improved, but i guess i couldn't notice until the ring of fire. they seem to be much stronger, on par with the average warrior/necro/ranger/monk/mesmer. instead of spending an hour fighting 3 guys, they all help out and we kill people real quick. right after we kill somebody, they target the next person, without me having to target them first. this surprised me.

the henchmen got muuch better in the ring of fire. if they were that helpful since kryta, it would have really helped. a lot. but...that doesn't matter. it's fun the be able to kill big level 24 mobs with nothing but henchmen, with only small difficulty.

now, if i could just find that stupid boss with healing hands...

Blue Steel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Blue Empire [BLUE]

W/Mo

01 Aug 2005 at 04:25 - 2

They are better henchmen in Ring of Fire (Devona, Mhenlo, Eva, Cynn, that whole gang). Prior to Thunderhead you have to deal with underlevel, "misfiring" orion and "always dying" stefan and alesia.

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

01 Aug 2005 at 14:54 - 3

Alesia is, hands down, better than Mhenlo.

Storm Singer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

01 Aug 2005 at 15:10 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF2NYD

Alesia is, hands down, better than Mhenlo.

You think so? I've always found her to be Miss Supertank. She seems to die alot more than Mhenlo in my experience.

Sanity

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Honor An Respect

W/E

01 Aug 2005 at 15:17 - 5

To me it seems Mhenlo doesn't heal that much so I go with Alesia.

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

01 Aug 2005 at 15:18 - 6

Mhenlo has never been quick with the rez, in my opinion. Even after everyone is dead, he just stands there and tries to heal himself.

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

01 Aug 2005 at 15:39 - 7

Mhenlo is a real ****tard. Alesia>Mhenlo, he hasn't got the full chakra u know :/

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

01 Aug 2005 at 15:44 - 8

Alesia is a wonderful tank

We used her in thirsty river and even though she didn't do much healing, she managed to get the aggro off our monk all the time

elenna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

PHC

01 Aug 2005 at 16:16 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF2NYD

Mhenlo has never been quick with the rez, in my opinion. Even after everyone is dead, he just stands there and tries to heal himself.

I've had Alesia do that plenty of times, too.

Sometimes she's on the ball healing and staying away from the mob. Other times she just tanks and doesn't heal. I haven't figured out why there's such a difference.

mrpo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

01 Aug 2005 at 17:04 - 10

Alesia is fruitcake, all she does is run in like a woman in shoe clearance sale

Bongo2k

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

01 Aug 2005 at 17:07 - 11

Alesia and Lina make a great team, they can just about kill anything if they get it right. Healer henchies ALWAYS heal, they dont hold grudge, and reguardless of loot or someone insulting them they always rez. Ive done Elonas Reach, Dunes of Despair and Thirsty River with henchies pretty much first time. It gets alot better when you get two healers(well lina can heal).

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

01 Aug 2005 at 17:22 - 12

Alesia has a knack for charging into the heat of battle with Healing Touch, instead of reserving that skill for herself, which is how she always manages to attract all the aggro (since she's hugging the monsters - and such a delicious treat is typically appreciated). Ofcourse if she -does- survive casting the healing touch, she often tries to distance herself from the enemies again (clever!) but tends to do this into unexplored territory, aggro'ing some more enemies (not so clever).

Takkun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

02 Aug 2005 at 07:11 - 13

Ive always felt that Mhenlo has been the better healer since that mission outside of Lions Arch. Mhenlo is a LOT quicker on the heals than Alesia is hands down, and I dunno why people dont see this. The reason people think otherwise is because we have Mhenlo doing our heals on the much harder missions. By the time Alesia would cast a healing spell on us in Hell's Precipice, two people would already be dead!

spirit_of_ice

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

02 Aug 2005 at 12:39 - 14

Stefan for teh win!
I love him for his sheer unreliability. some times he will outlazs tthe entire group and tank for a full minute or more, other times hell be down on the ground before you manage to click the enemy.

Xomah of Denyle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Enforcing Cows of Denyle

E/R

02 Aug 2005 at 12:45 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrpo

Alesia is fruitcake, all she does is run in like a woman in shoe clearance sale

OMG! that had me laughing out loud in front of my coworkers! You're evil, mrpo!

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

02 Aug 2005 at 14:56 - 16

Alesia has really bad AI problems on her before level 20 :/

Lina pwns a lot more than her ^^ usually keeps the team alive longer than Aleisa.

Mhenlo... well.. he has some weird problem... I can't place it yet.../ponder

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

02 Aug 2005 at 15:07 - 17

yeah but Sir Tydus personally recommends Alesia. She has to be good.

Tellani Artini

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

America

The Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS]

R/

02 Aug 2005 at 15:17 - 18

We need a smiting henchman.

InvaderGIR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

02 Aug 2005 at 15:28 - 19

Mhenlo's a hit or miss case for me, too. However, I will say he seems a bit more reliable than Alesia. If you use Alesia (aka Healing Hench) in a GvG, you'll notice she seems to heal slower whereas if you have Mhenlo in those crazy three last missions, he does a pretty steady job. Lina still tops the both of them, however, which makes me sad she's not recruitable in GvG. :<

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

02 Aug 2005 at 16:12 - 20

Hench are getting better later on but the issue I find is they are not infused after thunderhead which confuses me a lot... I mean come on... why are they not? They die pretty quick for me trying to get to the grotto. I have yet to try the new hench out from the grotto though and see how they do.

PAC

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

02 Aug 2005 at 16:25 - 21

Henchmen are infused in Thunderhead and after (incl Grotto). However, they don't get infused in Iron Mines, which makes the bonus there tricky (but doable)

OneArmedScissor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

currently Texas =[

Court Of The Fallen [CotF]

02 Aug 2005 at 18:19 - 22

Henchies are almost always better than random people.
Reason why healer hench is alot better than most monks: they never forget to heal. I think people who hate henchies are just plain ignorant.

I completed every Ring of Fire mission with henchies if that says something.

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

02 Aug 2005 at 18:29 - 23

People who truly hate henchies use them too much.

People who are afraid to use them, are ignorant.

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

03 Aug 2005 at 01:23 - 24

I dont hate then but sometimes ... I do.

Henchman are a pain because of how they are not that smart, you add the enchanter henchman and you expect he shut downs the enemy casters and screw up the fighter and I have yet to see him to do anything useful, same goes with the necromancers henchman.

Also if you switch target they all switch target, they also tend to go after the strongest enemy if you happen to be killed and I sould not even mention on how they sometimes raise me when being wiped so I can get a bigger DP!

I know we have super players that completed Ring of Fire missions with just 2 henchman and stuff like it but the regular player finds henchman to be near useless in missions when it hits the desert.

gou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

globally warmed england

the discarnate

03 Aug 2005 at 01:44 - 25

alesia heals more but mhenlo heals those who actually need it
If you want to talk about useless henchmen...
dunham FTL

Ander Deathblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

03 Aug 2005 at 20:13 - 26

Henchman > most parties, i've noticed. I really wish it weren't the case, but it's simply true. especially if you're in northern shiverpeaks or kryta or wherever... I usually do those missions with henchmen, because try it with a party and you fail. With henchies, it's a hole in one. Also, Alesia and Lina make an awesome team.

chaos dragoon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Warrior Nation[WN]

R/

03 Aug 2005 at 20:17 - 27

yeah i had to beat thunderhead keep with hencies and any human group couldnt get to the ring of fire mission.i was in a good group for ring of fire,then near the end i got disconnected,after 4 groups of human losses.