Trade Spam in Open Chat

Kaldor Meshekal

Kaldor Meshekal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

England

Rt/N

'WTS: Über l33t r0x0r weponz!!

12-18 Poisonerz Asclon Bow!!!!!!!!!1
14-21 Feiry Swordz!!1!!
10k!!!!

...umm...

Yes. I've decided to revisit old Ascalon City again for the first time in a long while. I was enjoying the wasted scenery, reminiscing with good ol' Captain Arne and walking the streets, when my relaxing meanderings were shattered, this message on the Chat channel thrown like a brick through the window of my mind. I thought, what the hell, I might as well see if this...person, has anything i could use for my dear Warrior. I got a whisper of many good items. Good, if by chance you are a one handed River Skale with a cashflow problem. None of the 'weponz' offered could even be remotely considered 'l33t' or 'r0x0r', even using the most warped and illogical of all logic. His 'feiry Swordz' weren't even Fiery Dragon Swords. 10k, for something not max damage? With, i might add, no bonus what-so-ever, other than the upgrade? I might add that this person, although hawking wares in Ascalon, was not a newbie who is not quite clued into the GW economy and sales yet, but rather a level 20, and judging by his armour, Ascended character.

Has Item selling gone down hill so much in dear Ascalon? Has the market crumbled and the black market of corruption and scamming arisen through a barely acceptable coup? Is the City Guard doing nothing?! Where is Warmaster Tydus!!! He's been kidnap...oh no, just off to my left by the fountain...as usual...

*cough*

It's either that, or 'Über l33t r0x0r weponz' have fallen on bad times...

It worries me to see the increase in these messages. What bothers me more is that i have the Trade Channel turned off, and i still get plagued by those hawking their...wares..GW needs a new trade system. An Auction house, a message board in all major cities where players can post their items they would like to sell...hm, might take this to the Suggestion boards.


Oh, and to the author of that trade message: It's 'Weapons'.

Nash

Nash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sweden

The Cornerstone

Turn off trade.
Turn off local.

Ahh, that's better.

coleslawdressin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Victory on Demand [VoD]

Me/Mo

Trying to sell a lot of good/"godly" stuff at one time is quite frustrating. I have about 4 lines of spam I am trying to put out and they include "no offer = no response" or "be specific" and I get tons of "1k for unid sup vigor" or "how much for gold bow?". The illiteracy sickens me really.. so I have toned down what I keep. Usually I out morons in public, "XXX XXX learn to read moron" or "XXX XXX is a scammer". Really, how stupid people are is quite amazing... "WTS (non max) GOLD *insert weapon type here* of enchanting +11% just 100K and 35 ectoplasm".. I just ignore people a lot if they don't read my whole spam and if they annoy me I curse them out in public ^^

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

yeah, that is annoying. I see some people with the following one:
'WTB good sword'

eeh....yeah....right...So what the hell are you looking for?

off topic:
some can be quite silly..I had one guy asking in Lions where he could get Dwayna's Kiss. Jokingly I said he could get it from Dwayna. He responded:"Yeah. But where?"
simply didn't respond to that one.

Damon Windwalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Wandering Gits

I got a laugh out of a guy in Droknor's the other day selling "godly" steel ingots. I asked him what was "godly" about them - he said he was sik of all the other "godly" items out there and wanted his own to seel lol

Diomedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Blue Island (think Chicago)

Me/N

The sad thing... doing that sort of crud works.

I've spent my fair share of time selling things. As I don't really farm much (or at all) I only get a few drops every now and then that are worth something to someone besides the merchant. Thus I would like to be able to sell my few golds for a reasonable price to help fund my game play. Hence I am greeted with a certain ambivalence when I see a gold item drop, a mix between, "whoohoo!" and "man, I'm going to have to deal with LA to sell this thing." So I goto LA and type things like "wts max gold sword + 14% >50, +ench, + ..". Nothing. Let's try again, "WTS MAX GOLD SWORD, GREAT MODS!". Now I start getting a few whispers, but all the offers are low. Biting my lip I decide to channel the evil netspeak spirt, "|||||||| WTS GODLY GOLD SWORD! MUST SEE, IT R0XX0RZ ||||||" More whispers, now I'm getting some high offers too. So I start using it for lots of things, "||| WTS GOLDY UNIDED MINOR MESMER RUNE |||" and suddenly I get whispered.

So the moral, selling in this game is a painful experience from start to end. But being obnoxious and saying "godly" /actually/ increases my chances of selling an item, even if it's nothing special.

Sad but true.

-Diomedes

Rahl

Rahl

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Austin, Tx

Mmph Its [Good]

Mo/

They need to ban the word "godly" from GW.

I swear.

I never want to see it again.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahl
They need to ban the word "godly" from GW.

I swear.

I never want to see it again.
i once proposed this. so:
/signed again!
to add to the list: leet, roxorz, 111, noob, pwn, gold dye...

but 'godly' more then anything. that is so annoying. it is used for the most crap items.

FengShuiBundi

FengShuiBundi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Blue State

K A R M A

Mo/Me

Um, you forgot uber.

Also...


WTS: uber 1337 gold Cracked Sash of Repair.

Sunrazor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

The other day I tried to undercut the market. I got two dozen maxed out collectors swords and started giving them away. I had trouble giving them away. But people trying to sell GOLD 14-21 swords weren't having any trouble.

I tried PMing some of those people, explaining that they were ripping people off. One openly acknowledged it (If they'll buy it, why not?). The rest were like "Hey, it's GOLD, that makes it worth it." Or "MAX DAMGE ONN SWRDS SI 13-20 N00BLING."

Damon Windwalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Wandering Gits

Worse than that - one of my guildies was trying to *give away* some pretty decent weapons - and go no responses - until he started saying that they were "GODLY" - then people actually responded....

It was kinda funny. No, he did not mislead anyone - at first he was stating exactly what it was, what damage, etc - he used the same exact description with the word "GODLY" added to finally give them away

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diomedes
"||| WTS GOLDY UNIDED MINOR MESMER RUNE |||"
heh, goldy

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

yeah its horrible. I cant fathom how or why to jump into the trade economy or why someone else would want to. It is plagued with ... (whats the opposite of godly?) ...

WTS ... DEMONIC r0xx0r GUILDWARS TRADE AND LOCAL CHAT CHANNELS ... 1/2 PRICE SALE ON BLASPHEMY ... 2 FOR 1 ON UBER 1337 TRADE SPAMMERS!!!1!1!! 100 PLAT (I PAY U! )

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon Windwalker
Worse than that - one of my guildies was trying to *give away* some pretty decent weapons - and go no responses - until he started saying that they were "GODLY" - then people actually responded....

It was kinda funny. No, he did not mislead anyone - at first he was stating exactly what it was, what damage, etc - he used the same exact description with the word "GODLY" added to finally give them away
this, my friends, is just sad. not a little bit, but just the kind that makes your mouth fall open.

FengShuiBundi

FengShuiBundi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Blue State

K A R M A

Mo/Me

What else is sad is trying to sell a zealous bowstring/pommel/axehaft/hammer grip and having people tell me that 1/-1 isn't good. They won't buy it.

The idiots think it's a vampiric or have the number mixed up.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

I salvage everything for the materials. Max Gold Fiery Dragon Sword -> Salvage for steel...I'm not about to waste my time or my patience on the morons in LA and Ascalon. it's not worth the 5 plat 6 plat 50 plat, not to me....I'd rather take my steel and move on.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

it funny that most people is ascalon spam the message of "WTS fiery dragon sword.. or l33t godly swords, hammers" You can hardly team up with people who looking for help for quests or missions.

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

And here I thought "godly" was dead and buried with "Godly Plate of the Whale." Boy was I wrong.

Hate

Hate

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Lions Arch

Yeah well Lol, ........ Anyways I am selling some uB3r l33t Wo0tAG3 wEpzZ thAT ArE suR3 2 PwnZ3r ur 3n3mys, u b3 g0dL3!!!!!1!!!!11

Gedscho

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

the Zen Men

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makkert
i once proposed this. so:
/signed again!
to add to the list: leet, roxorz, 111, noob, pwn, gold dye...

but 'godly' more then anything. that is so annoying. it is used for the most crap items.
/signed :P

BUT i want to keep "PWNED"
i need to say that once in a while. like a reflex or something.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
I salvage everything for the materials. Max Gold Fiery Dragon Sword -> Salvage for steel...I'm not about to waste my time or my patience on the morons in LA and Ascalon. it's not worth the 5 plat 6 plat 50 plat, not to me....I'd rather take my steel and move on.
I've taken the following approach:
non-max dam --> merchant
(* exception a 14-27 stormbow that went to a friend)
max dam --> if unpopular stuff merchant, else trade for under market price.

the stuff goes away fast, and i have minimal pain of trading.

xxeggofevilxx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makkert
I've taken the following approach:
non-max dam --> merchant
(* exception a 14-27 stormbow that went to a friend)
max dam --> if unpopular stuff merchant, else trade for under market price.

the stuff goes away fast, and i have minimal pain of trading.
I've taken a similar approach, except that max damage items with high req --> merchant.

And I would have to agree, they definitely need some sort of trading area... Seeing noob messages such as "selling godly longbow 15% > 50!! 10k!!" is making me angry, especially when most of the time it's just the collectors bow...

Yen-lo-wang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Team Play First

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiBundi
What else is sad is trying to sell a zealous bowstring/pommel/axehaft/hammer grip and having people tell me that 1/-1 isn't good. They won't buy it.

The idiots think it's a vampiric or have the number mixed up.
When I was trying to sell an old Zealous Hammer Haft I had, I had TONS of people saying "only a 1/-1 Zealous? n/m j00 [email protected]..".

OK, there are two HUGE things wrong with this:

1.) THERE IS NO HIGHER LEVEL OF ZEALOUS! 1/-1 IS IT!
2.) Calling someone vulgar names because they don't have what you want isn't just rude, it's stupid, narrowminded, and despicable. ESPECIALLY when what you want doesn't EXIST!

Ollj

Ollj

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

just tell people that insult you for not having nonexistant items, that those items do not exist, and dont care about what they believe or not.
The information-Age has no place for ignorance!

- trading stupidity:

Is the 15k/fissure armor worth anything? Not really!
Is money worth anything for someone whos strough the game ~3 times? NO! (only if you really want the above).
Are Weapons worth anything for someone who has ~all skills/runes/upgrades unlocked? NO!
Should someone who wins the Halls of Heroes every now and then care about people tat make fools of themself by trading that way in lions Arch? NO!

I prefer playing the game and putting ALL chats on ignore if I have to go to Lions Arch.
Then i can still have fun in there with some role players, because you see speech bubbles, even if you ignore all.

Puddin Tame

Puddin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Wouldn't you like to know

Pretty Horsies Arouse Greatly

R/

Maybe if the collecters shouted "WTT GOLYD SORTBOW 15>50 4 5 MNTN TROL TUSKS!!111!1!" the economy would be a little more... sane....

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
Turn off trade.
Turn off local.

Ahh, that's better.
I tend to agree.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

As someone said, it's hard to give stuff away. As I have alot of cash, I salvage anything not maxed for materials. Maxed stuff gets offered to my guild first, and if they don't bite, I give it away for free in Ascalon or Great Northern Gate... if the toon is of a level under 15. To me it's just good business. I want new players to enjoy the game, because the life of Guild Wars will eventually rely on existing players buying expansions. Right now with the nerfs they can't get sh- nothing. Most folks I give stuff to are real appreciative, so not everyone just jumps at the word godly. Hopefully they will do the same later on with other new players. It's really no loss to me either as I make good cash off of salvaging common materials from common items.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

I went to old ascalon the other day with my monk. Some guy was spamming "WTS RARE PWNAGE WEAPONS FROM 5TH CONTINENT" or something like that. So i go up and ask him what hes selling.

He pulls up the trade window and says "u a monk?" I say "Yeah, let me see your weapons" he just throws in a cane that is 8-11 damage or something. I said "Don't you have anything else?" "ya but u a monk" "Just let me see your other weapons" "K" he slaps on four other items that looked like he got them in pre-searing.

"What? This is all you have" "ya they rare i get dem in 5th continent far away" "5th continent?" 'ya it lots of green' or something "You mean maguuma?" "ya vry rare vry far away" "Most of this stuff looks like you got it in Pre-searing" "no 5th continent" "It's not even the 5th continent. It's more like the fourth"

So, yah, I just went away at that point. You guys should try going to the outside of Tombs and saying in trade chat "WTS: Leet Gold Godly Smiting Hammer of Ubercoolness". One time I did that while waiting for a party and three people whispered me. Most of which were "Smiting hammer??" completely ignoring the "Of ubercoolness" O.o

Lorelei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere unexpected

noone wants to team up with my godly warrior

Nexus Icon

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

You know, I found a gold max damage hammer in the desert with a maximum fortitude grip (+30) and +15% damage while health was above 50%.
I thought "Sweet, a perfect weapon! Now I can get me some gold!".
Could I sell it?
Could I buggery.
I ended up customising it for my warrior and using it for a nice hammer build.
Most probably this was a failed sale due to my reluctance to sink to the depths that the other plebs sink to...

trelloskilos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guitarring Adventurers Society

R/N

Very bery very true

I was offering a gold max dmg bow in LA. Doing all the usual stuff, my first line of trade was:

WTS Max Dmg gold zealot's Shortbow of fortitude (req. 11 marksmanship, +23 hlth, +1 en) 2k etc.(or words to that effect)

Nothing.

WTS Max Dmg gold zealot's Shortbow of fortitude (v.low price!! 2k - Inventory clearout)

Nada!

WTS Max Dmg gold zealot's Shortbow of fortitude! (or you can just blow your money on crap),
WTS Max Dmg gold zealot's Shortbow of fortitude 2K (I'm slapping you in the face and yelling "BARGAIN" here!!!)
WTS Max Dmg gold zealot's Shortbow of fortitude (It's a deal, it's a steal, it's sale of the f**king century!)

(Yes, I tried all the above lines, and more! - Occasionally, I'd get a lvl 6 Me/R who'd look and offer 400g and a vial of orange dye, but nothing more)

WTS Max Dmg gold zealot's Shortbow of fortitude OMFG uB3r-1337 r0xX0r!!!!LOL

5 whispers in 5 seconds

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

I'll starting to use whisper channel for my "WTS godly max uber charr hides 50g each" messages

don't worry, I'll only whisper those who use local channel for trade messages.

and when I want to do real trading, I turn off local channel.

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by trelloskilos
WTS Max Dmg gold zealot's Shortbow of fortitude OMFG uB3r-1337 r0xX0r!!!!LOL

5 whispers in 5 seconds
some people have a mental filter that they exlude anything non uB3r-1337 and non-godly r0xX0r