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Skills - Scourge Healing
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audioaxes
confused on this skill if you cast scourge healing on a monk and that monk heals himself, does he take the damage?
Tuon
Can it be cast on the guild lord?
Disoblige
If you cast this to a monk, it won't deal damage to them. it will just negates some his healing (unless his healing is weaker than scourge healing).
audioaxes
one more thing, does this work on monk heals only or also non heal monk spells that give divine favor bonus?
would it work on nonmonk heals like aura of restoration, troll ungent, etc?
would it work on nonmonk heals like aura of restoration, troll ungent, etc?
JoDiamonds
I'm pretty sure it won't affect health regeneration at all, so Troll Unguent is ok.
I suspect will affect things like Aura of Restoration, since that's like many monk enchantments, but maybe I'm wrong. If someone tests this, let me know.
It would be pretty funny if Scourge Healing + Aura of Restoration == Backfire. =)
I suspect will affect things like Aura of Restoration, since that's like many monk enchantments, but maybe I'm wrong. If someone tests this, let me know.
It would be pretty funny if Scourge Healing + Aura of Restoration == Backfire. =)
ngriffith
Ive found this skill to be devastating to enemy monks in my GvG battles. I cast it on whatever target is called first (usually a monk), and then use it on any other monks/support healers. At 10 smiting prayers, its about 60 damage/heal. So if your spamming healing spells like most monks do, your usually taking about 50 damage/sec from this spell alone. Couple that with the fact that your support healer ALSO has scourge on them, and they are taking 60 damage every time they heal you, but also cant heal that damage being caused to themselves effectively, and pretty much it just shuts down the monks. I also sometimes play a monk myself, and having this put on you is nasty. I use this skill in an E/Mo build, and combine it with slow/knockdown water magic. Monks cant run away(so warriors cand do their job), they cant heal effectively, and are constantly being interupted with knockdown. Sometimes I feel a little guilty.
Disoblige
Monks will heal themselves when scourge healing damages them Oo .
ZD_kusanagi
healing themselves will result in not healing the target being attacked. giving you more time to kill it.
ngriffith
The point of this spell is really to reduce the effectiveness of enemy monks. At high smiting levels its really pretty effective. All I can say is, try playing a monk sometime and have this put on you and/or the person being focus fired. Pretty much makes self-healing worthless.
Oh, and Im pretty sure it works on ANY kind of healing. Including the divine healing bost included with other monk spells like Reversal of Fortune.
Oh, and Im pretty sure it works on ANY kind of healing. Including the divine healing bost included with other monk spells like Reversal of Fortune.
Apo
where can i buy this skill?
delfin42
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Originally Posted by ngriffith
Ive found this skill to be devastating to enemy monks in my GvG battles. I cast it on whatever target is called first (usually a monk), and then use it on any other monks/support healers. At 10 smiting prayers, its about 60 damage/heal. So if your spamming healing spells like most monks do, your usually taking about 50 damage/sec from this spell alone. Couple that with the fact that your support healer ALSO has scourge on them, and they are taking 60 damage every time they heal you, but also cant heal that damage being caused to themselves effectively, and pretty much it just shuts down the monks.
It is powerful, but keep in mind that the monk is only damaged if the _target_ of Scourge Healing is healed. It's not like Backfire, where casting in general triggers it. (For example, I throw Scourge on Bob the Monk. I then start beating on Joe the Ele. Bob can heal Joe all he wants and not take any damage. If I attack Bob instead, it does help negate his self-heals.) On the plus side, its quick recharge and decent 30-second duration lets you drop it on several foes if you can afford the energy cost.
It does trigger for things like Healing Signet, which makes it useful to drop on Warrior-types, and it's a godsend in PvE when facing major Monk bosses. It makes the likes of Demetrios the Enduring and Willa the Unpleasant relative pushovers.
It does trigger for things like Healing Signet, which makes it useful to drop on Warrior-types, and it's a godsend in PvE when facing major Monk bosses. It makes the likes of Demetrios the Enduring and Willa the Unpleasant relative pushovers.
Starlight
This skill is a reward from the quest The Royal Papers, from Watchman Arad in Fishermen's Haven.
Dark Kanaye
stacks beautifully with backfire, soul leech, or spiteful spirit ^ ^
Dark Kanaye
....as long as there isn't any hex removal.....
smurfhunter
ya hex removal = owned if you use it. ive seen it used in tombs quite a bit and to my knowledge it wasnt a real issue... could be nice if you use it to stack something like lingering...
Allmightybob
The saving grace of scourge healing is its 5 recharge, if it gets inspired or smited you can just toss another one.
Ghost.
i dont see a lot of people use this skill but if you use it right its very useful
audioaxes
it appears this skill does NOT work with prot spells....can anyone confirm this?
delfin42
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Originally Posted by audioaxes
it appears this skill does NOT work with prot spells....can anyone confirm this?
The only Prot spells to which it might apply are Mend Ailment (only if the target has >1 Condition on them when cast), Mend Condition, Restore Condition (which nobody uses) and Mark of Protection. The others either cause Health gains (which is not the same as Healing), prevent damage or have other beneficial effects.
Shwitz
This skill is fun. I used it on one of my characters when I did the Thirsty River mission. It came in especially handy for the left-most monk boss and priest in the final part of the mission. Slap Scourge Healing on both the boss and priest and then focus fire one of 'em, watch 'em burn 
I'm making one of my guildmates take this into GvG, its just too fun to leave home.
I'm making one of my guildmates take this into GvG, its just too fun to leave home.
mr_boo
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Originally Posted by delfin42
The only Prot spells to which it might apply are Mend Ailment (only if the target has >1 Condition on them when cast), Mend Condition, Restore Condition (which nobody uses) and Mark of Protection. The others either cause Health gains (which is not the same as Healing), prevent damage or have other beneficial effects.
I have yet to fully test it out, but I believe delfin42 is correct...spells like RoF bybass Scourge Healing, so a Boon Protect Monk can actually get away with casting something like RoF and not be bothered at all.....based on this of course, you can see that DF is not affected either...I'll need to test this more to see for sure.
I have yet to fully test it out, but I believe delfin42 is correct...spells like RoF bybass Scourge Healing, so a Boon Protect Monk can actually get away with casting something like RoF and not be bothered at all.....based on this of course, you can see that DF is not affected either...I'll need to test this more to see for sure.
Entropius
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Originally Posted by mr_boo
I have yet to fully test it out, but I believe delfin42 is correct...spells like RoF bybass Scourge Healing, so a Boon Protect Monk can actually get away with casting something like RoF and not be bothered at all.....based on this of course, you can see that DF is not affected either...I'll need to test this more to see for sure.
Healing breeze and heal party bypass it also.
AFAIK the only skills that trigger it are orison, kiss, word, other, touch, and infuse.
AFAIK the only skills that trigger it are orison, kiss, word, other, touch, and infuse.
wonderworm
I'm pretty sure it triggers on "Heal Party". While I did the Ring of Fire mission with my monk some monk boss put scourge healing on several of the npcs. When I used heal party I got some really nice 300ish damage ... ouch.
Healing signet is affected, too.
Healing signet is affected, too.
Mercury Angel
It triggers on Ether Feast as well, if I recall correctly.
NatalieD
I don't know about regular Reversal, but it definitely triggers on Reversal under Divine Boon. Some me/mo threw it on my boon protter in the arena yesterday. Not fun to deal with even when you have hex removal, since it recharges so quickly.
mr_boo
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Originally Posted by NatalieD
I don't know about regular Reversal, but it definitely triggers on Reversal under Divine Boon. Some me/mo threw it on my boon protter in the arena yesterday. Not fun to deal with even when you have hex removal, since it recharges so quickly.
You are probably right NatalieD...thinking back...I think my boon may have been shattered or stripped...I have to say I don't remember...I'll have to test this out...I wish they would implement the in-guild test arena soon.
The Unahppy one
If you're a N/Mo, Mo/N then use this in conjuction with Spiteful Spirit to be the ultimate bane of monks.
kvndoom
It triggers on Healing Signet, as I have found out on occasional Icy Dragon Sword runs. Myd Springclaw, the boss you kill to cap Shield of Judgement, sometimes casts it on you. I found out the hard way when I had just escaped a mob, was low on health, and decided to heal while I had a breather. I died. Before "WTF?!?" could even leave my lips, I saw the pink "-84 Scourge Healing" floating above my head. Craptastic, I tell you.
Dahl
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Originally Posted by smurfhunter
ya hex removal = owned if you use it. ive seen it used in tombs quite a bit and to my knowledge it wasnt a real issue... could be nice if you use it to stack something like lingering...
Hex removal won't save them...
Look at Scourge Healing's recharge time.. You can just recast it like that.
Assuming you have any sort of necro with at least some minor blood skills, parasitic and siphon will usually be cast. Chances are it'll be quite easy to not only cast scourge healing, but keep it maintained on several targets.
Furthermore, constantly recasting this will waste the hex removers time and skills making them that much more vulnerable.
Look at Scourge Healing's recharge time.. You can just recast it like that.
Assuming you have any sort of necro with at least some minor blood skills, parasitic and siphon will usually be cast. Chances are it'll be quite easy to not only cast scourge healing, but keep it maintained on several targets.
Furthermore, constantly recasting this will waste the hex removers time and skills making them that much more vulnerable.
Former Ruling
There was a smiting monk in GvG on observer mode who spammed this, Judge's insight, Sourge Sacifice (until he released the necro didnt sac health), balt aura, and something else..
Inureface
I wish this skill was more like: Deals holy damage to healer and foe being healed. It would be very annoying for monks, but it wouldn't be overpowered since they will still get their heal through.
NatalieD
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Originally Posted by NatalieD
I don't know about regular Reversal, but it definitely triggers on Reversal under Divine Boon. Some me/mo threw it on my boon protter in the arena yesterday. Not fun to deal with even when you have hex removal, since it recharges so quickly.
I, uh, might be wrong about this. It didn't seem to trigger on anything my boon prot did last time it was put on me. But I know it did the time before that. I'm confused. 
The only thing I can think of is that maybe the more-than-one-condition healing from Mend Ailment triggers it, but Favor, Boon, and Reversal don't.
The only thing I can think of is that maybe the more-than-one-condition healing from Mend Ailment triggers it, but Favor, Boon, and Reversal don't.
Iron Monkey
Scourge Healing + Scourge Enchantment + necro hexer for covers. Make the other monks think twice before using LoD or aegis.
Kit Engel
Last I checked, it triggered for each hex that Divert Hexes removes, even if Scourge Healing itself was removed. So it's kinda evil.
Nigel Tufnel
running something like n/mo with smite and blood.....with offering of blood is very affective at spreading out many of these smite hexes in a short time (blood/curse covers required). Watch the flagger heal party spammer go poof!
Its an underused skill..the scourger. However, no good team will let a scourger run wild. Its just fun. Like frag spiker. it doesnt always work due to effective counters, but when its doing its job, good times.
On the pve side, its incredibly strong and should be used more often! especially against hardmode monks that seem to have endless energy and spam heals constantly.
Its an underused skill..the scourger. However, no good team will let a scourger run wild. Its just fun. Like frag spiker. it doesnt always work due to effective counters, but when its doing its job, good times.
On the pve side, its incredibly strong and should be used more often! especially against hardmode monks that seem to have endless energy and spam heals constantly.