The NEW Map Project. thanks moomanibe!
looking at moomanibes incredibly impressive map, loved and used by hundreds if not thousands of guild wars players daily, one cant help but wonder how much bandwidth the 5MB JPG eats up as people reload it through IE constantly. and by the amount of hosts its gone through already, it gives a pretty good idea.
so, i have taken it upon myself, being given the consent of mooman, i have created the map viewer program, in the hopes of cutting the bandwidth usage of the map by a lot. simply by forcing people to use an exe rather than the jpg through IE and thus you only download once, cutting bandwidth by a lot.
At the moment, i have a finished version. albeit basic, its good enough for release for testing. it doesnt exactly take long to code. testing on my own machine i see no major problems with it whatsoever, and while it has a tendancy to eat up a bit of ram, it eats no more (slightly less infact) of what the map eats when being loaded in IE. but thats windows' fault, not mine.
now, before i release this i have sent it to mooman for his opinion on it. he will ultimatley decide what happens to it or not, as he does all the effort, i just do handfuls of coding.
i will however release the screenshot of what it looks like running on my own desktop. please feel free to comment your opinion on it and mention what you think needs changing/doing here in this thread.
http://foob.mysite.freeserve.com/mapviewer.jpg
the viewer is 1024x768 in resolution and my desktop is at 1600x1200.
also the map used in the viewer is an old one as the mirrors are down so i cant get the elite skills maps. or the individual location maps. rest assured, these WILL be added as soon as i get my hands on them to add.
FooB.
and yes i know there already is an executable map laready available, but it needs a 30MB .net framewrok just to run, and it has all this other crap built into it. this is intended as a "no frills" version, friendly for modem users and the likes. and people obviously not wanting to install the .net framework.
the NEW map project. thanks moomanibe!
FooB
Tactical-Dillusions
I prefer to shuffle my tracks in my playlist...the map looks great by the way.
Will it cover all of tyria?
Will it cover all of tyria?
Sentao Nugra
>< yes tactical, that is just a screen, it uses moonmanibe's full map in a new customized smaller(quicker) exe viewer.
btw good idea!
btw good idea!
FooB
currently, it already DOES cover the whole of tyria, but obviously you cant view the entire map on any screen ive seen because moomans map effectivley covers over 8000x6000 pixels. (well over). so all i did was put the viewer in a common screen resolution (1024x768) which should cover 95% of people using it fine. plus if your desktop resolution is 800x600 you deserve to be operated on with a rusty spoon anyway.
anyway, the map is just not up to date with skill locations, which it will be once i get the maps to update it with.
plus, shuffle or linear, as long as a playlist has "my chemical romance" in, its a good one as far as im concerned.
anyway, the map is just not up to date with skill locations, which it will be once i get the maps to update it with.
plus, shuffle or linear, as long as a playlist has "my chemical romance" in, its a good one as far as im concerned.
powdahound
Would be nice to have more of the application window dedicated to the actual showing of the map, instead of tons of wasted blank space for buttons and little text boxes. It looks like you went a little VB crazy. 
It'd be a lot cleaner if it were simpler.
It'd be a lot cleaner if it were simpler.
FooB
theres actually an issue with changing size.
any bigger, its too big for people running in less than 1600x1200 desktop resolution.
and smaller, and its too small for you to see any worthy part of the map.
i had to credit mooman clearly, which d#took up a blank row at the top, so i filled it with a logo and put the buttons there.
and the rest, well. i figured i might as well make it look a little different. colouring doesnt resize stuff, just makes it lok a little cooler. but if i get a lot of people saying they hate the blue then ill take it away. or just put an options button in or something. cant be that hard
any bigger, its too big for people running in less than 1600x1200 desktop resolution.
and smaller, and its too small for you to see any worthy part of the map.
i had to credit mooman clearly, which d#took up a blank row at the top, so i filled it with a logo and put the buttons there.
and the rest, well. i figured i might as well make it look a little different. colouring doesnt resize stuff, just makes it lok a little cooler. but if i get a lot of people saying they hate the blue then ill take it away. or just put an options button in or something. cant be that hard
FooB
ht etext boxes are there because mooman stated that he wanted to be clearly credited on the application. otherwise it would all be conatined in the "?" button. but quite rightly so, as hes the one that does all the work and effort.
MOOMANiBE
Normally this is where I'd jump in and mention (as some people seem to be confused) that there is a topic for the original map project in the commmunity works section, but unfortunately the map is kinda.... down. It'll be back up soon >_>;
By the way, it's nice of you to put my name in there and all, especially on the front of the application ^^;
But I'm curious, are the rest of the credits in there? The map wouldn't exist without many of those people, so it's kinda important
By the way, it's nice of you to put my name in there and all, especially on the front of the application ^^;
But I'm curious, are the rest of the credits in there? The map wouldn't exist without many of those people, so it's kinda important
Red Locust
Does anyone actually view the map off the internet? I just downloaded it and view it on my hard drive whenever I need it. Much faster and more convenient.
MOOMANiBE
I'm afraid you're a rare exception locust, because nearly everyone I talk to says they just bookmark it >_>;
Weezer_Blue
I just saved the picture so I can view it using whatever program I want, and zoom in where I need to.
FooB
actually, they are in there, but on the map as you listed them yourself, its just your jpg that is being viewed. the problem i came across is infact its an outdated map, so once the updated one gets available, i can get a full list of the credits, and stick it all in a new form and put a nice big CREDITS button somewhere. as ive said previously, this wont get released until youre actually satisfied with it.
infact, i may go learn some object.qcolor(#) commands and put them on timer, and make the credits screen one big colour-cycling epilepsy fest.
and probably have it play techno music.
but alas, i was one of the few that saved the map to my machine for use. but tbh 95% of people just reload it from bookmarks. and thus hose bandwidth.
also, incase you posted here before you checked your email, ive sent you the current working version so you can have a look around it yourself.
infact, i may go learn some object.qcolor(#) commands and put them on timer, and make the credits screen one big colour-cycling epilepsy fest.
and probably have it play techno music.
but alas, i was one of the few that saved the map to my machine for use. but tbh 95% of people just reload it from bookmarks. and thus hose bandwidth.
also, incase you posted here before you checked your email, ive sent you the current working version so you can have a look around it yourself.
Ilya Khan
Thanks so much
Usually, I wold have to go to another site to find a map like this, but now, GWguru is my home
Usually, I wold have to go to another site to find a map like this, but now, GWguru is my home
FooB
its actually nice to see a lot of positive feedback.
the last time i tried something like this 95% of the forum thread was
"OMG YOU ARE SO LAME STFU AND STOP THIS USELESS CRAP BLAH BLAH BLAH WE DONT LIKE PEOPLE TRYING TO BE HELPFUL BLAH BLAH BLAH"
the last time i tried something like this 95% of the forum thread was
"OMG YOU ARE SO LAME STFU AND STOP THIS USELESS CRAP BLAH BLAH BLAH WE DONT LIKE PEOPLE TRYING TO BE HELPFUL BLAH BLAH BLAH"
Divinitys Creature
Might have been nice if the game came with at least a paper poster size map we could pin things to.
Three cheers to Moomanibe for creating such great maps and you for making the viewer
Three cheers to Moomanibe for creating such great maps and you for making the viewer
Diarrhea
can u gimmie a link -to download it?
Divinitys Creature
Lol there is no link for the exe. But looking at Foob's desktop, we see a whole lot of wrong. Well he has My Chemical Romance, thats cool, but then he has gay porn? And the Hot Chocolate mod - how sad. GET OUT MORE!
Diarrhea
oh *embarrased* but dont blame me ijust looked at his desktop and didnt read anything else
FooB
not just yet, before i release it id like to include everybody in the credits properly, and id like to iron out a few features (like scroll bars or something).
its about 90% done, im just waiting on the actual credits list. i can finish it all today. the major problem is finding someone to host it. as i have no hosting of my own cos im a student in the UK, and therefore i will be automatically poor for the next 4 years of my life.
its about 90% done, im just waiting on the actual credits list. i can finish it all today. the major problem is finding someone to host it. as i have no hosting of my own cos im a student in the UK, and therefore i will be automatically poor for the next 4 years of my life.
FooB
HOT COFFEE! oh come on. the mod alone has got the entire GTA:SA game completely banned outright in australia, it has to be worth a look to see what all the fuss is about. i havent installed it anyway.
and that video is actually a video of eve-online. made by an alliance of a battle that took place. its nothing but them getting thoroughly dominated by me.
why do you think i put the viewer where i did? all the gay porn is hidden behind it. er...
**EDIT** oh i see you mean the jpgs. if you really want to see them, theyre actually for an earlier post i made expressing my discontent at the 60k female gladiator armour looking about as aesthetically pleasing as a gunshot wound.
if you REALLY want to see them theyre uploaded.
http://foob.mysite.freeserve.com/gayarmour.jpg
http://foob.mysite.freeserve.com/gayarmour2.jpg
and that video is actually a video of eve-online. made by an alliance of a battle that took place. its nothing but them getting thoroughly dominated by me.
why do you think i put the viewer where i did? all the gay porn is hidden behind it. er...
**EDIT** oh i see you mean the jpgs. if you really want to see them, theyre actually for an earlier post i made expressing my discontent at the 60k female gladiator armour looking about as aesthetically pleasing as a gunshot wound.
if you REALLY want to see them theyre uploaded.
http://foob.mysite.freeserve.com/gayarmour.jpg
http://foob.mysite.freeserve.com/gayarmour2.jpg
Esprit
Good idea.
I also saved the picture and open it in Photoshop, which gives the zooming option if I need to see details on where I am going.
I also saved the picture and open it in Photoshop, which gives the zooming option if I need to see details on where I am going.
Calrisian Nantos
BF1942 icon woot! /offtopic Very nice looking little program you got there!
Santanus_Perro
Double Woot!!! on BF42. The greatest game of all time. BF2 is very good, but not as good as 42. I really want to do more PVP in GW but have found the learning curve very difficult; i.e., my team is getting its but handed to them in 4v4 at Droknors. Why even bother with 8v8 if you can't compete in 4v4? Plus, as a W/MO, it takes too long to get an invite to a party.
FooB
er. wtf.
where did a post about pvp come from?
anyway, back to the map. its nearly done. ive stuck on a co-ordinate display and scroll bars (the display only works with the scroll bars atm, the buttons do nothing to it ). but mooman managed to create the biggest anti-christ of a JPG ive ever found and the maximum allowed length of a scrollbar, only scrolls about a tenth of the map. i try anymore with multiplying etc, it goes "OMGOMGOMG NONONO OVERFLOW WTF DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE" then proceeds to bring up like 20 error messages and then gives explorer a good kick in the nuts.
where did a post about pvp come from?
anyway, back to the map. its nearly done. ive stuck on a co-ordinate display and scroll bars (the display only works with the scroll bars atm, the buttons do nothing to it ). but mooman managed to create the biggest anti-christ of a JPG ive ever found and the maximum allowed length of a scrollbar, only scrolls about a tenth of the map. i try anymore with multiplying etc, it goes "OMGOMGOMG NONONO OVERFLOW WTF DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE" then proceeds to bring up like 20 error messages and then gives explorer a good kick in the nuts.
FooB
BALLS TO IT. ive ripped off the coordinate display and decided to use the scroll bars for fine tracking movement.
all thats left is the credits. and finding someone to actually host it.
all thats left is the credits. and finding someone to actually host it.
Divinitys Creature
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Originally Posted by FooB
HOT COFFEE! oh come on. the mod alone has got the entire GTA:SA game completely banned outright in australia, it has to be worth a look to see what all the fuss is about. i havent installed it anyway.
and that video is actually a video of eve-online. made by an alliance of a battle that took place. its nothing but them getting thoroughly dominated by me. why do you think i put the viewer where i did? all the gay porn is hidden behind it. er... **EDIT** oh i see you mean the jpgs. if you really want to see them, theyre actually for an earlier post i made expressing my discontent at the 60k female gladiator armour looking about as aesthetically pleasing as a gunshot wound. if you REALLY want to see them theyre uploaded. http://foob.mysite.freeserve.com/gayarmour.jpg http://foob.mysite.freeserve.com/gayarmour2.jpg |
Heh that armor is hot enough to give elementalists a run for their money
Yeah I was just playing about the gay porn, didn't notice the movie until you mentioned it
The hot coffee thing is just sad - the point is they know lots of 12 years old are gonna get the game and 17 year olds wouldn't be that amused by it anyways. Heh I don;t wanna hijack this thread and make it about Hot Coffee that could be a thread on its own.
FooB
possbly. but all this aside.
IVE FINISHED MY FIRST VERSION. turns out the map mirrors went back up a few minutes ago so ive added the credits, and completely taken away the scroll bars because they cause more problems than they solve, a LOT more.
all i need now is someone to host it. if anyone knows anyone with tons of bandwidth to spare, let me know. or if you yourself can host it.
currently id like a handful of people to try it out for me, if you want to. send me a PM with your email adress and ill email you the program. its 4.8MB so make sure your email adress can handle it, though hotmail should work fine. if youre one of the few that test it, please send me feedback on it. like a beta, i suppose
IVE FINISHED MY FIRST VERSION. turns out the map mirrors went back up a few minutes ago so ive added the credits, and completely taken away the scroll bars because they cause more problems than they solve, a LOT more.
all i need now is someone to host it. if anyone knows anyone with tons of bandwidth to spare, let me know. or if you yourself can host it.
currently id like a handful of people to try it out for me, if you want to. send me a PM with your email adress and ill email you the program. its 4.8MB so make sure your email adress can handle it, though hotmail should work fine. if youre one of the few that test it, please send me feedback on it. like a beta, i suppose
FooB
<<Start of merged thread>>
finished. woot. for those who dont know, find my other thread.
now, i need testers. people who will test out a bit and then send me back some feedback. if you want to test, PM me an email adress so i can email you the viewer. the filesize is 5mb so make sure your email can handle attachments that big.
more importantly, i need hosting. me being poor i have no way of hosting this file so if you cn help me on this, or know someone who can. PM me or post here etc. let me know.
finished. woot. for those who dont know, find my other thread.
now, i need testers. people who will test out a bit and then send me back some feedback. if you want to test, PM me an email adress so i can email you the viewer. the filesize is 5mb so make sure your email can handle attachments that big.
more importantly, i need hosting. me being poor i have no way of hosting this file so if you cn help me on this, or know someone who can. PM me or post here etc. let me know.
lg5000
*raises hand* I can host on my site. Gonna get a +400MB upgrade soon so I can clutter it
Sekkira
Umm.. Opps, that was me, borrowing lg's computer cause mine is screwed atm 
FooB
wootootles. hit me with a PM and give me your details and crap so i can send you everything when the time comes to release it. everything is pretty much done, im just waiting for a couple of volenteers to give me some feedback before i let it out. incase its got some uber-bug in it that i dont see on my PC.
btw, if you did host it youd get you're own thanks textbox like TGH gets on the front. assuming you have a website to go with the mindless amounts of bandwidth. but thats probably a stupid assumption.
btw, if you did host it youd get you're own thanks textbox like TGH gets on the front. assuming you have a website to go with the mindless amounts of bandwidth. but thats probably a stupid assumption.
Sekkira
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wootootles. hit me with a PM and give me your details and crap so i can send you everything when the time comes to release it. everything is pretty much done, im just waiting for a couple of volenteers to give me some feedback before i let it out. incase its got some uber-bug in it that i dont see on my PC.
btw, if you did host it youd get you're own thanks textbox like TGH gets on the front. assuming you have a website to go with the mindless amounts of bandwidth. but thats probably a stupid assumption. |
FooB
well, ive had a couple of emails back from testers and apart for a few little niggles its fine for release. in all fairness, the program is about as simple as its gets, so theres not really much that can go wrong with it. all i really need is to find a way to let it out to the public now.
Aria
There's no point to having two threads at the very same time on the very same topic. Merged.
FooB
er. k.
emil knight
Of course... if you would really like to look at a map at anytime and want a program for it you could always go here:
http://www.gwfreaks.com/Download.aspx
and download the skill builder... I believe it comes with the exact same map. You enter all your characters skills... as well as the skills of other people in your group/guild/whatever. The program also gives you a pretty complete listing of all the skills in the game, where to find them and what they do.
Might be worth a look...
http://www.gwfreaks.com/Download.aspx
and download the skill builder... I believe it comes with the exact same map. You enter all your characters skills... as well as the skills of other people in your group/guild/whatever. The program also gives you a pretty complete listing of all the skills in the game, where to find them and what they do.
Might be worth a look...
Dac Vin
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Lol there is no link for the exe. But looking at Foob's desktop, we see a whole lot of wrong. Well he has My Chemical Romance, thats cool, but then he has gay porn? And the Hot Chocolate mod - how sad. GET OUT MORE!
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If you ask me, it's the hidden "Slipknot" folder that sadden me. LEARN TO APPRECIATE *REAL* MUSIC!
Seriously, I'm looking forward to that viewer!
FooB
you assume that folder is for me, you cant see the "dirty dancing sountrack", "the big bopper", and other random 50-80's music. both my brother and mother just inherited mp3 players. go figure.
ANYWAY. im about to go email the guy who offered me the hosting and about to send him the viewer and organise stuff. so it should be out in a day or two. as soon as i get an update or a link ill release it as soon as. i may even make a website to put it around. i can always learn html. i think. cant be that hard.
....and again wth the "gwfreaks" thing. i even put this in my first post that the whole point of the viewer is for people who DONT want all that crap in the program, they just want nothing but a simple map. thats it. this is intended for those who like no frills, 56kers and other people who would rather not do a 30MB+ download of the .net framework. and people who dont have as much RAM as others and dont like piled-on programs eating MB after MB of RAM. just running the map in IE eats enough on its own.
ANYWAY. im about to go email the guy who offered me the hosting and about to send him the viewer and organise stuff. so it should be out in a day or two. as soon as i get an update or a link ill release it as soon as. i may even make a website to put it around. i can always learn html. i think. cant be that hard.
....and again wth the "gwfreaks" thing. i even put this in my first post that the whole point of the viewer is for people who DONT want all that crap in the program, they just want nothing but a simple map. thats it. this is intended for those who like no frills, 56kers and other people who would rather not do a 30MB+ download of the .net framework. and people who dont have as much RAM as others and dont like piled-on programs eating MB after MB of RAM. just running the map in IE eats enough on its own.