free runners, a nice new trend

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

I've noticed, and used, several runners who will bring you somewhere free of charge while accepting donations. I give generously.

This kind of practice means no scams. If someone doesn't pay, they didn't have to. And there's no way that a runner can scam.

By donating generously to these kinds of runners we ensure that this trend continues.

By running on donation vs. fee, runners earn a good reputation (for the industry as a whole) and at times maybe won't earn much or anything but generally will do well.

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

Really? That's good Finally not so many losers...

Damon Windwalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Wandering Gits

Playing the game yourself: An nice new trend..

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon Windwalker
Playing the game yourself: An nice new trend..
haa... I don't know where you get that strange idea from. your idea will put a lot of runners/bots/farmers/eBayers out of business!

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

i agree with this ... and second trend starting ... xgammon baneseye pays runners to race them to their destinations ;-) ... yes when you have money to blow you tend to do the oddest things with it. so I'll sit in augory and race em to a mission spot, or in ascalon and race em to beacons, bergen to ToA, ToA to fishermans, Fishermans to Sanctum ... all for fun. I love donating for a fun run to see if the runner has the best route or not and learn their strategy while offering mine! such a nice industry!

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

i'll run people just for being bored. i dont ask for donations, but they are given to me anyways.

EmperorTippy

EmperorTippy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

hey stumpy weren't you the guy who was paying people to do the ENTIRE game for you?

KuTeBaka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

lol, once i got in a free run group to the wilds, the runner died almost instantly and just left, and i ran the rest of the way there.

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

I've ran from almost any where to anywhere upto augury rock and its srrounding towns/mission areas, either solo, or half fight half run with henchmen team.

I don't see the super difficuilty associated with going to the next town with a team of henchmen. people are just lazy.

Mimi Miyagi

Mimi Miyagi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Port Orchard, WA

The Second Foundation: [TSF]

I'm seeing more and more people advertising to run people to Beacon's Perch.

Yes, that's right, TO beacon's perch.

I can't for the life of me figure that one out. Something you can do yourself with a couple of henchmen, people are charging for?

They must be the Jr Varsity runners, the ones that can't get to Droknars.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

first time I was run somewhere was to ToA, second time to Droknar... First run was from someone who just wanted a donation, second was from guild leader so no charge. Its refreshing and nice to see midst the "Running to (insert city name) 4k!" spam "Running to (insert city) free, donations accepted." Unless your a really selfish immoral person who has no guilt at dying and letting someone else do all the work... Everyone pays something.

Meh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by KuTeBaka
lol, once i got in a free run group to the wilds, the runner died almost instantly and just left, and i ran the rest of the way there.
same thing here, and it was in yaks bend... he didnt even get half way... i prefer to pay some1 and get it done, they are not charging cuz they know they wont finish it...

TopGun

TopGun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I, too, am glad to see this evolving trend.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Last night in ascalon, i saw a person offering a run for 2k to sanctum cay.
It would have taken quite a while. 1.5 hours according to him.

I ran my brother from piken to aurora glade with my ranger and that was a fun and lengthy challenge.

I used to run people occasionally in the desert. I never asked for payments nor wanted any.

EDIT- A few days back, i offered to run a guy to elona from augury (he was obviously confused). I was using my bond monk (4 enchants) and he asked if i could put them on him too.
I told him it was "impossible" because of the degen (even with blessed sig. i still wouldn't be able to maintain it with just 4 DF).
Anyway, he insisted again when we zoned into diviners.

I told him i found his ignorance intolerable and i left him to get eaten by the sand drakes.
Free run for crying out loud!! Some people are just too dumb to be playing...seriously.

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTippy
hey stumpy weren't you the guy who was paying people to do the ENTIRE game for you?
nope ... was looking at sanctum for a runner (coulda been there) ... then was looking for a runner on the ascention mission because I have done them 5 times on my other characters then again over and over with guildies ... now I am the only one who has one left and cant be bothered to slow my guilds progress so I would pay a runner for the mission ... after ascention I take on capping. I'm just sick of the desert ... and btw I did the sanctum mission at level 12 with henchmen. i was a solo runner from ToA at level 8. I dont want a run through the whole game. just 2 ascention missions.

EDIT **** sorry after re-reading my response I never actually answered you directly ... no I wasn't the individual paying for a run through the whole game. Usually I just run my other characters ... who I can actually play with guildies. My lower leveler <<< tarian ... was recently created as my guildies dropped many of the warriors and I had to fill the shoes so my necro went bye bye. I have gone linear through the game soooo much that I am spinning with aboiut 30 skills left to unlock. All I like doing now is farming ... and when that gets boring I pay/donate other runners and race them with a R/W

Lorelei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere unexpected

Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
i agree with this ... and second trend starting ... xgammon baneseye pays runners to race them to their destinations ;-) ... yes when you have money to blow you tend to do the oddest things with it. so I'll sit in augory and race em to a mission spot, or in ascalon and race em to beacons, bergen to ToA, ToA to fishermans, Fishermans to Sanctum ... all for fun. I love donating for a fun run to see if the runner has the best route or not and learn their strategy while offering mine! such a nice industry!
Where there are horses, there are racings;
Where there are racings, there are ... bettings;
Where there are bettings... wait a minute, a new industry!

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Whenever I see a low price being offered or a "donations accepted" run being offered, I always pay generously. In fact, it may be worth it to have a "donations accepted" running buisness because someone people will pay more than enough.

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorelei
Where there are horses, there are racings;
Where there are racings, there are ... bettings;
Where there are bettings... wait a minute, a new industry!
10 gold on stumpy!

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorelei
Where there are horses, there are racings;
Where there are racings, there are ... bettings;
Where there are bettings... wait a minute, a new industry!
funny you say that ... when guildies and me race ... 5 gold side bet to the winner of each map ... also 5 gold races on infusion runs etc .... it exists ... just for fun though

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

Quote:
Originally Posted by aB-
it may be worth it ... because someone people will pay more than enough.
My first run, to Destiny's Gorge and Seeker's Passage from Augury. Before leaving I gave the guy an unidentified 15-20 purple sword then went to a take out place for some food. Came back and I was alone in Seeker's. I whispered him thanks and he was quite grateful for the sword, even though it didn't salvage out to much.

My second run was from Augury to Dunes and I paid him 500 gold for a 5 minute run. I don't even look twice when someone offers a 200 gold run, but I was paying partly for the run and partly for the kind offer of doing it for free Likewise with the sword.

SJG

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

I was in Beacon's Perch the other day when someone offered to run to Droknars for free, so I joined this group and it turns out the supposed runner was a N/R. Interesting, and potentially quite entertaining, so I just waited.

Before long a W/Mo20 joined the group and said that the run was his business, and told the necro that they could make some money out of it. They then said that everyone owed them 600g. It's a standard con, draw them in on a good deal and then slowly get them to hand over their life-savings. I immediately told the whole group that I would never pay up-front for a run and they said fine.

I asked him how he was going to do the run (I do the run myself, so I know what's needed) and he was very vague, I asked him how he was going avoid knockdowns and he mentioned capturing a bear. I have no clue how that was relevant. I asked him how many speed skills he had and he told me to look at his armour, and said it was the full 15K set. It was, but that obviously didn't convince me.

So I just waiting around for this run to start, knowing full well that it's not going to happen but interested to see what was actually going to happen. And it was as funny as I thought it might be. The necro left Beacons by the wrong door and then disconnected. The warrior then took us back in and left by the right door, before immediately disconnecting.

The really funny this is that the rest of the group thought that there had been some awful accident, and that we should try to get the necro back. I told them the whole thing was a joke or a con (I couldn't decide which was more likely) but they still seemed to think this necro was their ticket to Droknar's.

The final twist in the tale comes when I see him advertising to run for free again about 10 minutes later. I ask him what happened and he said did run a group to Droknar's and really quickly because nothing spawned in any of the zones, and he ventured a theory that it must have been lag.

So, free runs, not all they're made out to be. However, I must admit that even though I didn't get a free run, it was quite fun, in a surreal way.

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

I do "free runs" sometimes when I need to get myself somewhere or when I'm running a friend/guildie to somewhere, I figure I might as well fill up the rest of the slots and make someone's day.

I'm no Mother Teresa or anything, though. I don't just hang out at droknar's and give people free runs for the hell of it, and I don't think many people do. So the so-called paid runners don't really need to fear for their job.

Dan Mega

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago

R/N

I decided to try to do a run once and I made it easily with my Ranger. So I decided to do a "donation-run" like the OP was talking about.

Guess how much they donated total?

12k



Not bad eh?

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

I should start doing runs... easy money

Mystical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Mississauga, Ontario

Inyurface Gaming [IYF]

For my forth character - a Mo/W - I decided I'm going to give in and hire a runner to get to Droknar's Forge for the armor. I put aside 2K since that's what I've been hearing is the going rate.

Finally get to Beacon's Perch and wait around for a runner to announce his business. I eventually see someone say they're taking people for free. I hop on this fast! Once I was invited into the party, it was another profession than a Warrior (a necro I believe) so I left knowing full well he probably won't make it.

Few more seconds pass, and another person advertised the same run, so I give in agian. This time it's a W/E. He states this is a trial run, and he doesn't garentee success, but he'll try.

He fails the first two times at it. Only making it to the portal just before Camp Rankor (had too much DoT he couldn't prevent or heal). He blames it on bad luck, and tries a third time from the beginning. Happy ending of course, he made it.

I wish I could remember his name, he tried hard and I ended up giving him 1K for his efforts.

emil knight

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago,IL

The Knights Of Temerity

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly
I've noticed, and used, several runners who will bring you somewhere free of charge while accepting donations. I give generously.

This kind of practice means no scams. If someone doesn't pay, they didn't have to. And there's no way that a runner can scam.

By donating generously to these kinds of runners we ensure that this trend continues.

By running on donation vs. fee, runners earn a good reputation (for the industry as a whole) and at times maybe won't earn much or anything but generally will do well.

Yeah I do this on occassion when I'm bored and/or when I see people charging OUTRAGEOUS prices for a run... 3K to run from Ascalon to Piken's? That's not a hard run at all...

I've never charged for a run but if someone wants to give me something when we are done, I do appreciate the gesture.

Glad to know this really IS appreciated and I hope the trend continues as well.

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Last night I ran a guy for free from Piken to Courthouse. This is obviously a piece of cake for my a R/W20. Some guys was advertising, "run to courthouse 400 gp!" I, in return, said "Free run to Courthouse." The group started with 4 of us. After 2 guys died, they left. One guy hung in there, died, and never left. A whopping couple minutes later, we hit courthouse, then Nolani. Well, the guy opened the trade window and offered 25 gp. I politely declined. At least the guy acknowleged with some sort of thanks.


~Edit-Spelling, Capitalisation

Mugon M. Musashi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

France (Paris)

BUG

Mo/W

I found the best runner ever

Boubou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quebec, Canada

L'ordre [LO]

Mo/W

The only place where I run people is in the desert ... augury to mission site and I don't charge.. there are no mission to go there and the desert can be confusing

InvaderGIR

InvaderGIR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugon M. Musashi
I found the best runner ever
Dude, owned. XD

neoflame

neoflame

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugon M. Musashi
I found the best runner ever
LOL...

trelloskilos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guitarring Adventurers Society

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugon M. Musashi
I found the best runner ever
ROFLMFHAO!!!!

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

HAHAH I think I was there cause I've seen that to.

theVariable

theVariable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

CA, USA

Knights of the Hokuten [KotH] (hokuten.org)

Mo/Me

I too, do the occassional free run for people. It's a nice gesture of course, but I just like to watch someone advertising their paid running service leave, when I offer to do it for free. I also get bored and feel like helping the less fortunate/lazy people.

Lampshade

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

I usually attemt an area first, then If I cant get through it I have someone run me thorugh it.

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

I like to got to Droknar's or Lion's Arch and announce that I'm running folks to storage for 1gp.

I've actually had a couple of takers.

PhineasToke

PhineasToke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

in a house

Phantom Menace

W/Mo

With so many complaints that the game is boring, being "run" anywhere seems to be simply dumb. The game has content which was meant to be played, and taking yourself not only adds potential experience points, it also increases the chances of drops that could be worthwhile.

If this game becomes another Diablo "run me" game, it becomes worthless. I hope "running" gets nerffed, and nerffed soon. I'm tired of seeing level 5 characters in Yaks bend, and level 10's in Henge of Denravi.

And with the right group or henchie combination, even after three or four tries, there isn't any reason to be lazy and run if you don't beat it the first time.

Krank

Krank

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

But what about me? the only fun left in this game is running people / farming, and most of my farming spots are nerfed, so running is what im doing mainly now, and im expanding so soon ill have ascalon - desert run ready.

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

You have to watch out for n00b runners who are justlearning if you donlt have too much time to spare. Dunno why they can't train on their own. Guess runners get lonely too *awwww*