Rediculous rune prices!!

Melkor of ZoSo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

I can't believe ANet would skyrocket the prices of Monk Superior Runes to 50k each.... WHENEVER us players find a way to get ahead, they completely shoot us down.

What exactly are you trying to acomplish, ANet? What does nerfing the shit out of everything and skyrocketing prices on things that will help our characters do? Level out the playing field? We're not even friggin playing against eachother.... You've taken it one step too far.

I dont even know anymore... this game has gotten less and less fun.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Anet didn't do it, the economy did. Everyone's buying them for that 105 build.

Steve_V

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

I don't know why you're getting angry at ANet.
They only made the system where the more you buy the more the prices go up and the more you sell the more the prices go down.
Now with the monk runes being such in demand, no one in their right mind would sell sup monk runes to the rune trader because they can get a better deal with other players. And those who can't find a seller will just buy them from the rune trader.

So that's why the prices has being going up. It's like Superior Vigor and Absorbtion are pricey and have been pricey for a long long time because they're in high demand.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

no we don't have five topics about this

nosirree

Fye Duron

Fye Duron

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Chico, CA, USA

Dragon Fang

The rune trader's prices are based on player demand.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

A fix would be to have the traders pay more for items they don't have in stock. Makes sense to me.

Melkor of ZoSo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

And.... if you're all so high and mighty about discouraging farming, why would you price things so high? The ONLY way we would be able to buy these items is by farming.

You're contradicting yourselves... Your merchants buy our rare drops for about 300g. How in the WORLD are we suposed to get enough money for a superior Monk or Vigor rune? You might as well take them off the market, seeing as how if, by playing by your "no excesive farming" rules, we'd never be able to buy these things.

--You pay us nothing, you over-charge us into oblivion, and expect us to not try to farm to get enough money to pay for your rediculous prices? --

If gas prices were to rise to $20.00 a gallon, the only way people would be able to buy the same amoutn of gas is through crime. If Ectoplasm and Obsidian prices rise to 20k each, the only way we can get this much gold is through farming senseless. I know America/Europe don't encourage crime, but what ELSE are we to do but farm?

How hard would it be to have some kind of auto-detect in Guild Wars? America/Europe have police forces, which keep crime rate down, so why cant Guild Wars have something to solve this problem, instead of skyrocketing the prices?

Melkor of ZoSo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Thank you, MSeckory.... All ANet has to do is make the merchants pay us more for stuff!! Those things have more money than ANYONE would know what to do with!

I'm sure that the Rune Traders offer little more than 1k for Sup Vigor or Sup Monk Runes... How does this have ANYTHING to do with thier economy? They have a low supply, so they should buy at descent prices from players


---EDIT---
Yeah, the econmoy has stuff to do with it... But the bottom line is ANet controls whatever price we pay for when we buy something from thier traders.

KuTeBaka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

anet does NOT control the price. It is a build in algorithm for traders, say 100 people buy a sup healing, the price will move higher because its higher in demand.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KuTeBaka
anet does NOT control the price. It is a build in algorithm for traders, say 100 people buy a sup healing, the price will move higher because its higher in demand.
But if the trader is running out, the trader's buy price should go up in efforts to increase his supply.

Stauf

Stauf

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Do Not Pass Go

R/Me

"But the bottom line is ANet controls whatever price we pay for when we buy something from thier traders."

You've been told multiple times that anet does not control the price themselves. Get a clue.

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
But if the trader is running out, the trader's buy price should go up in efforts to increase his supply.
Which it does. I don't see the problem here.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by aB-
Which it does. I don't see the problem here.
If it does, haven't really seen it... then the formula is a bit weak.

bobrath

bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

nah, it just tends to buying much lower. Basically the Traders have become gold sinks. The respond exactly to demand to buy but in a more muted fashion to demand to sell.

Melkor of ZoSo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

You all mean to tell me that ANet doesnt control what goes on in it's games??? If they wanted thier traders to sell for less, they woudl make them. I dont think the traders have grown indipendent of ANet. If ANY of you REALLY THINK that Anet can't change prices, you're just dumb; plain and simply dumb.

They pay trivial amounts for our goods. The buying rate goes up at a crippling rate as well.

Zenos

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

As soon as the soloing build appeared on the forums I went and bought 10 superior protection runes. You should have been quicker. I spent about 5 plat on em. And made 125k profit. All it took was 1 minute of buying, 2 weeks of waiting, and 10 minutes of selling.

And who said farming is the only way to make money? Trends in the market can be very lucrative. Runes are at high prices right now. You might want to look at rare materials to make money at the moment. Or try to create a new build that doesn't require expensive runes.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkor of ZoSo
You all mean to tell me that ANet doesnt control what goes on in it's games??? If they wanted thier traders to sell for less, they woudl make them. I dont think the traders have grown indipendent of ANet. If ANY of you REALLY THINK that Anet can't change prices, you're just dumb; plain and simply dumb.

They pay trivial amounts for our goods. The buying rate goes up at a crippling rate as well.
i got over 5 plat for a major rune recently and the cheapest i sold a minor (got 5 of them 2 days ago) was a couple hundred and one minor was way over half a plat sold not bought TO THE TRADER not waiting around going WTS

the dye trader offered me almost 12 plat for a single black dye

Zell Murasame

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Devotees of Shadow

E/Me

Supply and demand! People buy them, they cost more. And they cost about 15,000, not 50,000...

Thomasuwoo

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Savior Of Souls

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenos
As soon as the soloing build appeared on the forums I went and bought 10 superior protection runes. You should have been quicker. I spent about 5 plat on em. And made 125k profit. All it took was 1 minute of buying, 2 weeks of waiting, and 10 minutes of selling.

And who said farming is the only way to make money? Trends in the market can be very lucrative. Runes are at high prices right now. You might want to look at rare materials to make money at the moment. Or try to create a new build that doesn't require expensive runes.
Ah you Sonofa... Well done. There's a clever business man. It scares me that guild wars is making me look into economics!

Divinus

Divinus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mississippi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zell Murasame
Supply and demand! People buy them, they cost more. And they cost about 15,000, not 50,000...
A few seconds ago the highest was 56k and the lowest was 43k

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Today I checked up again on the superior monk runes only to find that the price has shot all the way up to the lowest cost, Divine Favor rune, being 45k and the highest, Protection being... 68k!!

How could anyone ever afford that? Are people trying to make a reason for buying money off ebay? Stop hording Superior runes! This is rediculous!

Now I'll have to sell a purple stormbow or 20 Obsidian Shards just to get a divine favor rune.

B3H

B3H

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mid-West

Cheer Up Emo Kid [EMO]

W/R

Its cause monks know how to use their skills now :P

supply and demand :\

AceSnyp3r

AceSnyp3r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Work in Progress [WIP]

Yeah, the economy is pretty screwed up right now, maybe they'll have a few fixes ready when the summer content patch comes out.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

People will just buy tons of them all over again becuase everyone is making a monk to solo UW now...

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

People are stupid, that's all. They think just because they can solo they should buy full superior runes. Then they have to earn the, 100+ plat to get back the money they spent

lmao.

AceSnyp3r

AceSnyp3r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Work in Progress [WIP]

Heh, at these prices they have a good 200 plat to earn back + whatever the armor itself costs :P

Stauf

Stauf

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Do Not Pass Go

R/Me

"If ANY of you REALLY THINK that Anet can't change prices, you're just dumb; plain and simply dumb."

Um. People aren't saying that. Talk about dumb...

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Merged Sanitarium thread with this one. One's enough.

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Well I think that I know the anwer.

The trader stock is from the players that sell to him, runes became worthless soon after the trader introduction (since the hp hit was more that people wished to take, superior runes were never much popular) and people started to either sell ID armor or simply salvage the armor.

When the trader became "updated" it started to show that people stop selling to him, now that most players have a monk farmer character they started to use runes but since the trader supply was not that great they skyrocket due to demand, now that players see then being valuable they are hoarding then so so the trader influx that was small became even smaller and prices continue to raise.

Even if Arena Net adds more runes the effect continue, people hoard then due to the trader high price selling price and his low buying price and only sell then to the other players.

Aria

Aria

Sig Fairy

Join Date: Feb 2005

Once upon a time..

Hello

Please use the thread below, and try not to make multiple threads on the very same topic:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42434

Thank you,
Aria