Sup vigor / Sup Absorb, Omg 100k

Krank

Krank

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Rune Vendor Prices

I have never seen these prices so high..

Can anyone explain why?
99k for vigor and 90k for absorb WOW

Whos hoarding the runes?

KainShadow

KainShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Legacy of Abyss

E/

hehe like the first month

InvaderGIR

InvaderGIR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

It's due to the fact that the traders aren't paying players enough to buy them so thus, the players decide to trade them for better gold. I don't blame them though.

Hysteria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yeah, current prices have been like that pretty much since release. There was a dip for a while when the rune trader was implemented but Im not shocked that they are back up.

Axle_Fieshe

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/W

well i bought one a while ago and sold it yesterday for 64k, that made me happy.

November Raine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Pulaski, Wisconsin

(Leader of)The Blue Sentinels [TBS]

W/Mo

I had just had a thought. what if the prices get above 100k (if at all possible) then it would not even be possible to buy. hmm well it's probably not possible to go above 100k

sino-soviet

sino-soviet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Israel before, CA now.

R/Me

wait a week or two and they'll be back down to 35-40k.

Autumn_Leaf

Autumn_Leaf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Taunton, Mass.

wow. 100k. doesn't really suprise me with the market these days. like a month to two weeks ago you could have bought them at 40k-60k. the market is crazy, but its the players who have the real control. supply and demand is the system, and the people with a disposbale income sometimes decide to screw up the market. Ex. is yellow dye usually sells for ~100 one day it was up to 1400.

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

I bought 3 Sup Vigors about a month ago for 29-32K each and I still have 2 of them... I'm so happy they're back up at 100K...

TopGun

TopGun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Buy majors. Work just as well, cost way less. An extra 10 Health for a superior is totally irrelevant. Very rarely do I ever get down that low and not die. If your healer can't cover you that low, they can't cover you 10 hp higher. \

Superiors = $#!7

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Peaking at 99k-100k at the trader right now. Seems like this happens in cycles. Soon, in a couple weeks, they will go back down to 40k or so. Funny, just 3 days ago I saw atleast 4 people trying to sell unided superior vigors for 45k, and they weren't having any luck.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Merged Free4all's new thread with this one. Let's keep rune prices in one spot.

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Thanks aniewiel, must not have seen this other one. Doh!

nohooiam

nohooiam

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Forsaken Sanctuary

Mo/Me

an auction house would keep the prices at a realistic level.

Draygonia

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

ROOF

E/Mo

I got my sup vigor for 22k, than i sold yesterday for 67k

Just wait till they all go down than stock up on them and its gonna be great next patch

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Perfect. Finally a reason to farm for everyone.

nooby nooby

nooby nooby

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

I live in uuuuh... my house!

-none-

W/Mo

dude this is BS why did they higher the prices!even the dyes got higher 1 blue dye is 1.3k xD aaaah

Lorelei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere unexpected

Oh my friend gave me 4 of those runes!

Will hug her 4 times next time!

Krank

Krank

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

WHOA! share the wealth lorelei!! i dont even have one O_O!

and yes i saw blue dye at 1.5k and silver at 5k (SILVER!)
black is completely sold out, thanks to that guy and his thread of hoarding over 100 black dye, now everyones doing it

Daywalka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ice Tooth Cave

Hypnosis of Darkness [HoD]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by TopGun
Buy majors. Work just as well, cost way less. An extra 10 Health for a superior is totally irrelevant. Very rarely do I ever get down that low and not die. If your healer can't cover you that low, they can't cover you 10 hp higher. \

Superiors = $#!7
Well, a Superior only 9 HP better than a Major. Still not worth paying over 16 times the amount that you would for a Major!

Strong Fist

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

NC

Omnipotent Nomadic Empire [ONE]

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by sino-soviet
wait a week or two and they'll be back down to 35-40k.
Yea because less people will have the money to buy them.

Tsukiyomi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

That reminds me when the game was first released.

I can't believe that they're so expensive again. When the price first went down, I was hoping that it would stay down.

The economy is in ruins now with the prices coming back up.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

its funny to me because sup vigors are not even worth it. its only a 9 hp difference between major and sup. that is not going to be enough to save you from anything. go buy a major and stop thinking that because its a few more hp its better because it really isn't

sup absorption are worth every penny but you really won't notice too much of a difference between the major and sup. i've found 2 so far so i haven't had a problem with the prices but i do empithize with other players that do have to buy them.

one day people will learn that the +5 armor mod is much better than a 30 hp upgrade too so i'd start stocking up.

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

I'm pretty sure they changed the trader code, which changed the way the prices behave. Apart from monk superiors, I very much doubt that any change in player behaviour has caused the recent price increases.

However, the situation that occured when the rune traders were first introduced was clearly broken - the majority of runes were always at the minimum price. There's no point having a trader with a floating price if they're always going to lying at the bottom extreme. Sure, it was great to be able to roll a new char and fully outfit it with minor runes for 5x 120g, but considering the drop rate of runes, I dont really think it was intended to be like that. (otherwise, why not just add them to merchants?)

Midnight Slayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

i am very happy with the new vendor prices and made 160 plat in 2 mins by selling two superiors. now gotta find something to spend the money on.

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

That is simply untrue, superior vigors stayed at 100k at the trader for at least a week when the trader was intruduced and that shows your entire argument about the trader being broken on release is false.

Reason rune prices droped to 120 gp mark was that the trader was flooded with runes, superior runes (except vigor and absortion) were never very popular with the players (due to the HP loss) and getting a ninor rune was easy since they even up the rune drop rate.

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drakron
That is simply untrue, superior vigors stayed at 100k at the trader for at least a week when the trader was intruduced and that shows your entire argument about the trader being broken on release is false.

Reason rune prices droped to 120 gp mark was that the trader was flooded with runes, superior runes (except vigor and absortion) were never very popular with the players (due to the HP loss) and getting a ninor rune was easy since they even up the rune drop rate.
Think about it this way. They designed a system that is supposed to fluctuate in price to reflect player trading. It's not an auction system, where players set their price levels, it's a system where every time a player buys something, the price goes up at some Rate, and when a player sells something the price goes down at some other Rate.

On release, the normal amount of buying and selling done by players was not enough to budge the price from minimum, except for the super popular runes.

Since they seem to have changed it so that prices are more inclined to move upwards now, the original situation was clearly unintended.

Tuon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

It's cuz the 105 monk leaked out

Rieselle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Melbourne, Australia

E/Rt

You'll notice that minor runes have gone up in price as well. A minor of Ele Fire magic used to hover at around the 500g mark, now its suddenly 3 plat. I doubt that there's been a sudden increase in the popularity of minor fire runes this week.

the 105 health build just makes Monk Superior (and now Major) prices very noticeable, but biggest clue are how the prices of the modestly in-demand runes have changed.

Lampshade

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

Dangit!

I sold my major absorbtion for only 3K!!

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rieselle
Think about it this way. They designed a system that is supposed to fluctuate in price to reflect player trading. It's not an auction system, where players set their price levels, it's a system where every time a player buys something, the price goes up at some Rate, and when a player sells something the price goes down at some other Rate.
Players use a auction system, prices were always high because players started bids high and continued to drive higer.

Also what you just said is not supply and demand.

Supply and demand also depend on it each other, if a trader is shifting inventory at the same rate he is gaining the price sould not change, if the trader is selling less inventory that he is gaining the price sould go down.

Take black dye, its very expensive but few are buying and selling to the trader so its price sould be stable since suppy/demand is the same but price is raising?

Either the exceptional rich players are using a EXPLOIT to gain unfair advantage over the other players with price manipulation (that in real live gets you send to jail) or the trader is simply not using a inventory relation and connecting buy/sell, its acting as buying and selling are seperate inventories.

Quote:
On release, the normal amount of buying and selling done by players was not enough to budge the price from minimum, except for the super popular runes.
That because the inventory relation shown a large surplus, the trader simply had far too many runes and wanted to get rid of then.

Thats why buying price was at the lowest (since he did not wanted) and his selling price was at the lowest (since he wanted to get rid of then to free inventory space)

That is supply and demand, there is always a inventory relation.

Quote:
Since they seem to have changed it so that prices are more inclined to move upwards now, the original situation was clearly unintended.
As I said ... either the traders are bugged or rich players all decided to drive prices up by hoarding.

Kyten

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Aimless Wanderers

E/Me

hmm the gw rune trading economy seems to be like the stock market i remember when i made a pvp guy and i was going to buy some runes and saw sup mes(and earth/water ele) runes for about 200g if i had more money (like i have about 10k now) i would have used it all on them because i thought there was no way a superior would stay that low i even said to my guild "this is a travesty!" when i saw it so the second those runes go down im investing everything into runes, sure it may be a bit o a gamble but hey, its just a game(though i may get mad for losing a few hours o my day for farming/selling)
so i hope that in time the prices will go back down *shakefist* they better
PS: i hope this doesnt make me sound like one of those rich hoarders

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnight Slayer
i am very happy with the new vendor prices and made 160 plat in 2 mins by selling two superiors. now gotta find something to spend the money on.
This is the wrong attitude to take. People need to start looking past themselves and seeing what the price change is causing to the economy as a whole. Saying the price change is good because you made a bunch of money is the wrong way to look at the situation.

Eternal Equinox

Eternal Equinox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Manhattan, New York

lolumad

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by aB-
This is the wrong attitude to take. People need to start looking past themselves and seeing what the price change is causing to the economy as a whole. Saying the price change is good because you made a bunch of money is the wrong way to look at the situation.
But can you blame him? Everyone a couple weeks back we're always complaining "OMG RUNES AREN'T WORTH CRAP ANYMORE", but now that the prices have skyrocketed, people are making some quick coin. I can't say i'm completely happy about it because i don't have the funding to buy some of those runes. But then again, i might just be on a mission and get a nice rune drop and actually be able to sell it for more than 25 gold. Puts quite a smile on some peoples faces.

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternal Equinox
But can you blame him? Everyone a couple weeks back we're always complaining "OMG RUNES AREN'T WORTH CRAP ANYMORE", but now that the prices have skyrocketed, people are making some quick coin. I can't say i'm completely happy about it because i don't have the funding to buy some of those runes. But then again, i might just be on a mission and get a nice rune drop and actually be able to sell it for more than 25 gold. Puts quite a smile on some peoples faces.
Unfortunately, you can only sell most minor runes to the rune trader for 25 gold, and selling to other players is a waste of time in most circumstances.

Kobor

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Budapest (Hungary)

Guardian Angels

R/Mo

But why the trader buy runes at extreme low prices?
He is selling a rune for 5K and buy it for 200g?
It is simly not FAIR!

Moltov joss

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krank
Rune Vendor Prices

I have never seen these prices so high..

Can anyone explain why?
99k for vigor and 90k for absorb WOW

Whos hoarding the runes?

I saw this as a common sight not long after the traders were introduced.
Now back up to 100k. Damn I sold mine for a measly 35k the other week....if I had only waited

Onito

Onito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Death Boring Sweden

Clan Plus

Mo/Me

i gott a Sup VIgor in storage!!!!! KEKEKEKEEee