Can a ranger use conjure lightning/fire/frost or can't they? Iv heard they changed it so only lightning staffs can use conj lightning and so forth, then I heard a ranger with a lighting bow (bow string?) can use it. If this is true, is it the same for warriors with elemental swords? Please enlighten me.
I know there are many discussions on this topic already, but the reason I ask is I've heard many differnt things and want to get it strait once and for all.
Conjure lightning/fire ec. for rangers and warriors
Mouth-For-War
Zarconis
Seems like a Q&A post to me AND one that could be answer by using the SEARCH function.
Conjure now only works in conjuction with an elemental weapon. Such as a elemental string for Bows or hilt for swords and so forth.
Conjure now only works in conjuction with an elemental weapon. Such as a elemental string for Bows or hilt for swords and so forth.
Mouth-For-War
Thank you for answering my question. Im very sorry if this was the wrong section to post in, but as for searching, like I said I've seen differnt things and just wanted to know for sure
Zarconis
Well then, to answer more appropriately. I wills say that YES they can use them, but you need to find the corresponding elemental "piece" to make it work. Also, in the Ranger's case you'll be forfeiting the Zealous String to use it which add +1 energy per hit (I believe).
Weezer_Blue
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Can a ranger use conjure lightning/fire/frost or can't they? Iv heard they changed it so only lightning staffs can use conj lightning and so forth, then I heard a ranger with a lighting bow (bow string?) can use it. If this is true, is it the same for warriors with elemental swords? Please enlighten me.
I know there are many discussions on this topic already, but the reason I ask is I've heard many differnt things and want to get it strait once and for all. Any class can use Conjure ____ to add damage to their weapon's attacks, however, you must have the propper weapon modifyers. For instance, if a Ranger wished to use Conjure Frost, he would need an Icey Bow String. Or if a Ranger wanted to use Conjure Lightning, he would need a Shocking Bow String. So really, it's not worth it anymore.
I know there are many discussions on this topic already, but the reason I ask is I've heard many differnt things and want to get it strait once and for all. Any class can use Conjure ____ to add damage to their weapon's attacks, however, you must have the propper weapon modifyers. For instance, if a Ranger wished to use Conjure Frost, he would need an Icey Bow String. Or if a Ranger wanted to use Conjure Lightning, he would need a Shocking Bow String. So really, it's not worth it anymore.
Vermilion Okeanos
You know what is funny?
During the April BWE I had experience using PvP made R/E to conjur a bow that is not elemental @_@ and it still works fine... And while during March BWE, I wasn't able to conjur my bow with my E/R... Right now, I am just waiting for the release to check it again, once and for all.
During the April BWE I had experience using PvP made R/E to conjur a bow that is not elemental @_@ and it still works fine... And while during March BWE, I wasn't able to conjur my bow with my E/R... Right now, I am just waiting for the release to check it again, once and for all.
Dovi the Monk
the conjures used to be that awsome weapon modifer, but it was nerfed down in damage and now in the bow strongs. it can still be useful but instead of just being able to add it to your ranger to make it hve awsome damage, not so much anymore.
using the conjure flame, mark of rodgort, glyph of lesser energy u can deal some very nice damage
using the conjure flame, mark of rodgort, glyph of lesser energy u can deal some very nice damage
Valerius
so.... what would be a better choice if it came down to this....
going Monk for the Judge's Insight?... or going Ele for the Conjure?
i first thought of going Monk... but then i was told that JI takes a lot of energy to having to keep on recasting it every 8 sec... so then i decided to go Ele for Conjure... but now u have to have a " " string to just have that one move...
going Monk for the Judge's Insight?... or going Ele for the Conjure?
i first thought of going Monk... but then i was told that JI takes a lot of energy to having to keep on recasting it every 8 sec... so then i decided to go Ele for Conjure... but now u have to have a " " string to just have that one move...
JeshterDaggerfury
Yeah, I didn't know that either. This whole week I had thought about making a shock sniper. Screw that.
I might end up being a Ranger/Monk Barragebot now. Perhaps a Trapper.
I've also been toying with the idea of Pure Ranger, Incendiary Arrows and Ignite Arrows. Possibly with a pet, as useless as they might be.
I might end up being a Ranger/Monk Barragebot now. Perhaps a Trapper.
I've also been toying with the idea of Pure Ranger, Incendiary Arrows and Ignite Arrows. Possibly with a pet, as useless as they might be.
Ensign
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i first thought of going Monk... but then i was told that JI takes a lot of energy to having to keep on recasting it every 8 sec...
Pump Smiting to get that up to 15 seconds or so. Yes, it's energy intensive, but that's what Zealous is for.
Conjure * is solid - cheap, long lasting, high damage - but you have to weigh it against the versatility you give up by taking an Elementalist secondary over a Monk secondary. I think it's a pretty tight race but I personally side with flexibility for RP characters.
Peace,
-CxE
Conjure * is solid - cheap, long lasting, high damage - but you have to weigh it against the versatility you give up by taking an Elementalist secondary over a Monk secondary. I think it's a pretty tight race but I personally side with flexibility for RP characters.
Peace,
-CxE
Valerius
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Xellos
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Pump Smiting to get that up to 15 seconds or so. Yes, it's energy intensive, but that's what Zealous is for.
Conjure * is solid - cheap, long lasting, high damage - but you have to weigh it against the versatility you give up by taking an Elementalist secondary over a Monk secondary. I think it's a pretty tight race but I personally side with flexibility for RP characters.
Peace,
-CxE But pound for pound, is JI stronger then Conjure when it comes to damage dealing?
Conjure * is solid - cheap, long lasting, high damage - but you have to weigh it against the versatility you give up by taking an Elementalist secondary over a Monk secondary. I think it's a pretty tight race but I personally side with flexibility for RP characters.
Peace,
-CxE But pound for pound, is JI stronger then Conjure when it comes to damage dealing?
Valerius
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Vermilion Okeanos
To do more damage...
If you have high attack power for each shot, go for the percentage... if you have low power each shot, go for the +.
Personally, I would go for a conjur... due to high resistance those warriors' got with their armor going against physical damages... + conjur is low expensive on the energy. (since I would be using elemental bow, I can hit the wariors pretty hard even without any enchantment)
Then again... if using elemental bow and meet a ranger instead... don't expect any high damage either... @_@
But at least with conjur, you can actually ask someone to enchant you with judge's insight while still have conjur... while the other way around does not apply.
If you have high attack power for each shot, go for the percentage... if you have low power each shot, go for the +.
Personally, I would go for a conjur... due to high resistance those warriors' got with their armor going against physical damages... + conjur is low expensive on the energy. (since I would be using elemental bow, I can hit the wariors pretty hard even without any enchantment)
Then again... if using elemental bow and meet a ranger instead... don't expect any high damage either... @_@
But at least with conjur, you can actually ask someone to enchant you with judge's insight while still have conjur... while the other way around does not apply.
tektonik
Warriors shouldn't be your primary target and monks have + elemental IIRC 
I am probably wrong thats how it was last year when I actually looked at all the armors
I am probably wrong thats how it was last year when I actually looked at all the armors
Ensign
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But pound for pound, is JI stronger then Conjure when it comes to damage dealing?
Well Judge's Insight adds 23% damage, and that stacks with skills. If you're chaining skills, that'll be on par with a ~9 Conjure on damage, but more expensive.
Of course you get Zealous. Plus other Monk skills.
Peace,
-CxE
Of course you get Zealous. Plus other Monk skills.
Peace,
-CxE
Gh0sT
Im also struggeling a bit between these (and Mesmer a bit), i think the best approach would be to just try them all out and see what fits you best... thought thats time consuming and i hate that :P
Xellos
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Well Judge's Insight adds 23% damage, and that stacks with skills. If you're chaining skills, that'll be on par with a ~9 Conjure on damage, but more expensive.
Of course you get Zealous. Plus other Monk skills.
Peace,
-CxE But alone it doesn't right? Like Barrage+JI < Barrage+Conjure? Or Dual Shot+Conjure > Dual Shot+JI?
I'm not really high on the preps like Read the wind, since the way I see it, the time you take stacking up that damage is basically a elementalist casting time. I'm sort of using the mentality of sustainable, not spike. So just plain figures will do.
Of course you get Zealous. Plus other Monk skills.
Peace,
-CxE But alone it doesn't right? Like Barrage+JI < Barrage+Conjure? Or Dual Shot+Conjure > Dual Shot+JI?
I'm not really high on the preps like Read the wind, since the way I see it, the time you take stacking up that damage is basically a elementalist casting time. I'm sort of using the mentality of sustainable, not spike. So just plain figures will do.
Nash
JI is +10 to +11 on Barrage, and +7 to +8 on normal attacks. Conjure beats it for damage output, but you will miss out on infinite energy.
Gh0sT
Another quick question in between... i know barrage is a sort of AoE skill...
But what if ur facing only 1 opponent, can of the 5 arrows lets say 3 hit that same target, or is it just 1 arrow per person in that AoE.
But what if ur facing only 1 opponent, can of the 5 arrows lets say 3 hit that same target, or is it just 1 arrow per person in that AoE.
Xellos
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JI is +10 to +11 on Barrage, and +7 to +8 on normal attacks. Conjure beats it for damage output, but you will miss out on infinite energy.
Yeah but that casting time kills 
Kha
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Another quick question in between... i know barrage is a sort of AoE skill...
But what if ur facing only 1 opponent, can of the 5 arrows lets say 3 hit that same target, or is it just 1 arrow per person in that AoE. 1 arrow per opponent.
But what if ur facing only 1 opponent, can of the 5 arrows lets say 3 hit that same target, or is it just 1 arrow per person in that AoE. 1 arrow per opponent.
Valerius
two questions...
about the Zealous String.. say i were to use a move like Barrage or Duel Shot... would i be getting 1 Energy for every arrow hit? like.. say i use Barrage.. and the 5 arrows all hit.. will i gain 5 Energy from that??
and..
for Hunter's Shot... if there knocked down.. and ur shot hits.. will that make them bleed for 3 sec AND do 3 damage as well?
about the Zealous String.. say i were to use a move like Barrage or Duel Shot... would i be getting 1 Energy for every arrow hit? like.. say i use Barrage.. and the 5 arrows all hit.. will i gain 5 Energy from that??
and..
for Hunter's Shot... if there knocked down.. and ur shot hits.. will that make them bleed for 3 sec AND do 3 damage as well?
JeshterDaggerfury
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two questions...
about the Zealous String.. say i were to use a move like Barrage or Duel Shot... would i be getting 1 Energy for every arrow hit? like.. say i use Barrage.. and the 5 arrows all hit.. will i gain 5 Energy from that??
and..
for Hunter's Shot... if there knocked down.. and ur shot hits.. will that make them bleed for 3 sec AND do 3 damage as well? They have to be trying to move to be bleeding. If they stand still they don't bleed from hunter's shot. Don't quote me on that, but I believe that is correct.
about the Zealous String.. say i were to use a move like Barrage or Duel Shot... would i be getting 1 Energy for every arrow hit? like.. say i use Barrage.. and the 5 arrows all hit.. will i gain 5 Energy from that??
and..
for Hunter's Shot... if there knocked down.. and ur shot hits.. will that make them bleed for 3 sec AND do 3 damage as well? They have to be trying to move to be bleeding. If they stand still they don't bleed from hunter's shot. Don't quote me on that, but I believe that is correct.
Valerius
ugh.. no... it says if there moving or knocked down... they will start to bleed 
JeshterDaggerfury
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ugh.. no... it says if there moving or knocked down... they will start to bleed
Hunter's Shot
"If Hunter's Shot hits, you strike for +3-13 damage. If this attack hits a moving foe, that foe begins bleeding for 3-21 seconds."
Hunter's Shot"If Hunter's Shot hits, you strike for +3-13 damage. If this attack hits a moving foe, that foe begins bleeding for 3-21 seconds."
Xellos
Maybe it's outdated but it use to be if you got knocked down while getting shot with Hunter's, you'd start bleeding.
Valerius
well....
Description: If Hunter's Shot hit's you strike for +3 damage. If this attack hits a foe that is moving or knocked down, that foe begins "Bleeding" for 3 seconds.
i get that description from http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view..._select_id= 5
is this site outdated? .. should i be looking at another website to find out what skills do?
Description: If Hunter's Shot hit's you strike for +3 damage. If this attack hits a foe that is moving or knocked down, that foe begins "Bleeding" for 3 seconds.
i get that description from http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view..._select_id= 5
is this site outdated? .. should i be looking at another website to find out what skills do?
JeshterDaggerfury
This site has always been the most up to date of any, from what I have seen. Sorry I have no definitive answer. We'll know soon enough!
Davion
when all else fails...... go with this site. It is the ONLY official site. And the admins do a wonderful if not stress inducing job of keeping it as up to date as is allowable by the NDA. (which by the way...nolonger will be a problem in....2.5hrs) 
Valerius
ok thanx.. btw.. about my first question..
is it per arrow hit that u get the energy? or per spell or w/e... cause.. if u had Zealous and were using Barrage .. u'd be getting some good Energy return if u had 14 Expertise...
is it per arrow hit that u get the energy? or per spell or w/e... cause.. if u had Zealous and were using Barrage .. u'd be getting some good Energy return if u had 14 Expertise...
Davion
it is per hit. so you would be getting 1 energy per hit. If barrage hit 5 targets.. there's +5.
Valerius
hmm... where would i find Zealous String?? is it something a monster drops? do u buy it? where? or do u face a boss or something .. ? 