UW monks

This has become really sad.

Now not only have monks become even more arrogant with their new build.

Now they are backstabbing people for profit, they'll join saying they are a healer/etc. but when you get in they start soloing it and just tell everyone to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off o.o

One name in particular "-- udder ----" thats not his true name, but since you cant put names I decided to just put the udder part in, if you seen the name you'll know who it is. He joined us to be a healer, he comes in and makes the entire chamber attack at once and he just sits there with protective bond and healing breeze, when its finally clear we ask for rez and he just says "what use are you?" "I didnt bring rez" etc.

Thats just plain mean. If anything we need some kind of thing to announce your skill bar, cause you mostly have to take people for their word, and more than enough people are just there to screw others over.

Thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard, and announcing your skillbar wont work, they can lie

I'm sorry if you're frustrated but, please, refrain from profanity, particularly in the title. I have edited out the offensive word.

I think what he's getting at is a screen (such as has been posted in the Sanitarium) that shows what is on everyone's bar BEFORE the mission begins. That way you see firsthand what skills everyone's bringing along.

Well yes... i suppose that could work, but if this monk is really a (mean word) then he will take pic, then switch skills while "uploading".

I know people like this...

Solution: Turn Aatxes into nature's renewal spamming rangers...because NR is teh pwn, like lol. n00b.

GG.

well i guess he could switch it around, but what i really meant.

Is like how you can announce your level and % closer you are to next level/point or what your energy/health is.

Like have the monk be the last person to announce it and be like

I AM USING HEALING BREEZE, BALTHS AURA, REBIRTH, HEAL OTHER, etc.

have like something you can ctrl+click to have them yell out their skill bar to you, then the very second you have a swift look at it, you zoom right in there so he doesnt have enough time to switch around.

I dunno, just a suggestion x.x this really really REALLY got me pissed off.

Nope that wont work either, you cant announce in the ToA, you can announce inside the UW which isnt helpful in this position at all

Yes. Because the only assholes in the game are monks. For all the things that monks have to put up with, I think having a clever (for the person who made it first) solo build is little compensation.

No wont work
there is nothing to say if your got an %^%$ that he will use the skills etc

Was in a uw team last night with 3 monks me being one of them and players kept on dying. I was healing as fast as I could. while keeping the tanks up I forget about myself so I die.
Have no idea what the other 2 monks were doing.
that was one really bad experience, as my monk is pretty good.

Just get over it and move on there are some really great players who can make the game fun just keep a list of good players or add to friends list if they are on then party up before you know it you will be having fun with some like minded players.
Those others will be left behind.

How bout a command where you hold CTRL and click a special area that's part of your skill bar and it will say (in a special color, so it can't be immitated) what's on your skill bar?

ctrl + click

"Bold As Love: [specialcolor] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, skills of your build"

Yeah well maybe they put up with alot of crap, but dont screw over the people who actually respect a good monk, heck I even ask as a catch phrase "have you hugged your monk today?".

There are lots of stories like this around. I remeber someone talking about monks who went half-way into Fissue and then demanded 10K each, then ruined the mission when they weren't paid.

Monks can get into groups there no matter what. It's not like it takes them more than 5 seconds to scam someone else into paying their 1K for them.

Thats because, just as any other class, there are bad monks. Except those monks are arrogant because they are an uncommon class. If I choose to go it alone, which I would if the rune prices weren't insane right now, then I wouldn't mess with people just cause I could (although, I'm tempted )

You don't seem to understand this bar picture concept. There is a button you press which brings up everyone's CURRENT skill bar. If a change is made, it is instantly changed on the picture of everyone's skillbar. There would be know way to cheat this, besides changing a skill at the last second, but changing all 8 skills at the last second would require SERIOIUS speed or lack of observation from the rest of the team.

Gee. I didn't know about this problem with monks botching up UW or FoW parties. On behalf of all respectable monks out there I offer apologies - please don't let that handful of jerks besmirch the honorable monk profession.

I usually join all ranger trap parties. No monk problems there

If the only reason to not having a display that shows your skills to the party is that they can simply change it once they have spammed it...
...then I have lost all faith in humanity. Lieing about such a trivial task because you think that you are "teh 733t [email protected]" deserves a 5 minute suspension from the game. If people complain then they should receive an additional ten minute suspension and a polite e-mail about ethics.

/sarcasm off? You decide.

There's no excuse for people being assholes.


There's also no excuse for another person wanting to hinder the other's fun. Does a solo monk (that's not an arrogant asshole) ever make your life miserable? I don't see how a farmer, solo or not, can ever screw you over. So why are you trying to take away from him a way to have fun?


PS: No, I don't run this build.

this makes no sense at all. the trick with the build is that you can do it solo. By joining a group and then farm, your loot is less.
I have a UW farmer, and have joined a few groups. But we made clear agreements. I went tanking for them on the places i could. I got a lot of love from my UW groups always.

there will always be grievers. and grievers love power. what more can a griever wish? but don't shove this up all UW monks.

Don't hate them, befriend them. I have a friend who has a monk that solos the place, but I tag along with him. Why? Because with me going along we get things done in a fraction of the time that either of us could solo it.

seriously

not all monks are assholes

despite how i might act here, i'm one of the nicest and most helpful people ingame

i don't demand that my toll be paid just because i'm a monk

more often than not i'm the one paying for everyone

why? because i farm. because i have all of that extra money sitting around, i might as well use it.

Yes, I'm sure this is sooo common among UW monks. You essentially got scammed...and you blame the UW solo build because of it? You can get scammed anywhere, and it's because there are jerks out there willing to do it. Saying the UW-solo build is at fault and that it promotes scamming is like saying the trade window promotes scamming.

Wow, i think thats actually my guild mate....(i'm pretty sure it is)

UW is a boring place to go to for starters, and even moreso alone. Every time I go there it's with a party in the hopes that we actually do the missions all the way through, but people seem more concerned with farming. If I do ever go back there, it will be with my guild or with a PUG that has intentions of doing missions.

And as a monk player (my IGN is right there under my avatar), don't let one jerk color us all bad. When I used to go to UW, sure people died, but not w/o me trying all I could do to keep them up.

But since people complain about us all the time, let me throw my own complaint out there... Some times I am set up for soloing or farming, but just feel like doing a group mission, or maybe I need the refund points to switch back to healing. How come nobody ever wants you then? All you hear is, 'Wat? u no heal us?' and then your kicked and called names, regardless of the fact that your still better suited for survival than most builds in the game. They can just keep you and get a monk who is a healer. Why? Because any monk set up for soloing really won't need healing, so that's one less person for that healer to heal. Plus our smiting more than makes up for a warrior's stances and strength. People are just narrow sighted sometimes. Outside of PvP, if you are not a healer monk you really get treated like crap. I'm not condoning what the person did to the OP, but I can sure understand how it could come to that.

you got unlucky, that monk was a jerk, but i have a full account of monks that 1 of them will be a soloer, after i get to 20 and ascended and all that stuff....but untill then im gonna be a healer monk with that character, ive met many quality monks in parties before, but you just sound like you got unlucky

Don't screw the Monk profession...

What you just encountered there was something called SCAMMING.

It can happen to every single profession. Of course its a shame it had to happen to you. Im sure most of the Prot bond Monks are not like that. I'm a prot bonds monk and i use it, but id NEVER do that. So please refain from trying to say that monks are like that.

When a warrior gets setups a group in UW of FoW then runs off with our money, do i say "OMFG warriors are scammers!!!111" No i don't.
BTW - this has happened to myself 3 times already.

Well JensD if this person is part of your guild I am saddened.

Have something done about that, not many guilds want asshole guildmates unless they want to be a guild of assholes XD

i'm not sure what the monk build is but for protection, maybe you can always bring a ranger with you. if the monk gets out of line, have the ranger spam nature's renewal (assuming it can break the monk build) so you can all die together.

fertile season will work too, gets the HP up and they take more damage...I know I ran some people thought and one was a ranger with a pet and she put up fetile season I went from 105 to 330,and took massive damage. I got away but the rest died. I felt bad, but I told them no spirits.

Obviuosly someone new to the game since they didn't understand why more health was bad(and a pet in UW). I left and let them go back to ToA, it screwed up my refund points some, but I didn't want them to sit there and watch me kill stuff. Even though it wasn't really my fault.

If I get bored and do join groups I let it be known I am smite/solo build and they can sit back and watch and when we get to the monsters I might have difficuly with then they can do some killing. (I then switch armor and try to wand/staff some, and throw a mend on people). But ultimately they join in when an Aatex has minimal life, take 2 hits and are dead. No other monks or maybe a single rez sig then they are sitting around watching while everyone else continues.

There is no pleasing people I guess. I can understnd where PUG games are going to suck every monk and their brother trying to build a solo build, all that leaves are noob monk or monks that aren't that good. SO what was once a hard profession to find pure healer monk, is going to be even tougher. Especailly in UW. FOW is another story since it is very hard to get far there even with practice. I can do the first mission and if I sneak around I can get to the bridge. But that is the limit pretty much so have to hope shards drop early. Spiders are basically impossible even with +4 mend I killed a single spipder but died before I couold get the leg it dropped . ut it was more for satisfaction that the actual drop, now had it been a gold fellblade/scimitar it might have been different.