Where have all the buyers gone????
Thanas
Just an observation but has anybody noticed that virtually no one is buying at the moment. All I see is WTS. I've not been able to sell anything for the last few days. Its plain ridiculous!
Tactical-Dillusions
Everyone is without cash?
Vorkronor
The market is saturated or frustrated ... your choice 
ManadartheHealer
Recession 
MSecorsky
If no one's buying it becomes a buyers market... start naming your own price and people will start to sell for more realistic amounts.
Lilanthe
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Everyone is without cash?
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Thanas
Possibly. But hows anyone meant to make any money if no ones buying? The prices for dye, runes and materials have gone through the roof!
Santanus_Perro
Be willing to make less margin on what you sell. You have alot of inventory? Then move it by selling for less profit. The casual gamers who have a hard time finding the upgrades/runes/rare weapons don't have the cash the power gamers do, but they are the demographic you should be selling to. Lower your prices and your inventory will fly out the doors.
TheTim
^^^^ Here here.
I always sell stuff wicked cheap. Makes me a lot more money than the merchant will give you and prevents me from wasting hours in the trade channel trying to get that extra 1K or what not out of an item. The quicker you move stuff the quicker you get back to playing the game and making money.
I always sell stuff wicked cheap. Makes me a lot more money than the merchant will give you and prevents me from wasting hours in the trade channel trying to get that extra 1K or what not out of an item. The quicker you move stuff the quicker you get back to playing the game and making money.
Maxiemonster
It's quite simple, at this moment, allmost everything (dyes, runes etc.) is at the highest price of what it has ever been. Noone will buy these things untill they're cheap again
Stur
I started a new toon 3 days ago and spent about 11k in him from other players. Does that count?
Drakron
The only thing I seen was "WTB black dye" ... actually some times you might see people wanting to buy materials.
Dax
I've always wondered why anyone would pay the prices they do for stuff.
Seems like that anything can drop off any mob, yes? I mean you don't have to kill XX mob to get ZZ dye.
Sorry sort of off topic, but maybe perhaps alot of people are turning off the trade channel in favor of just playing and getting thier own items. Atleast thats what I do.
Seems like that anything can drop off any mob, yes? I mean you don't have to kill XX mob to get ZZ dye.
Sorry sort of off topic, but maybe perhaps alot of people are turning off the trade channel in favor of just playing and getting thier own items. Atleast thats what I do.
Drakron
Because of bugged traders.
Look in over 300 hours of playing Guild Wars so far I found one black dye and that was with playing 3 characters.
Other colors appear to be more common but still dye drops are rare and there is no other source of dye.
Also its not like we can go kill something and know we can get a dye drop, drops are completly random and so you can kill a enemy and get a black dye and 500 hours later of killing him over and over again ... nothing.
Look in over 300 hours of playing Guild Wars so far I found one black dye and that was with playing 3 characters.
Other colors appear to be more common but still dye drops are rare and there is no other source of dye.
Also its not like we can go kill something and know we can get a dye drop, drops are completly random and so you can kill a enemy and get a black dye and 500 hours later of killing him over and over again ... nothing.
Charrbane
The other day I decided to do a solo run and got six dyes to drop within an hour (maybe longer but my brain is foggy) but 2 of those I never got to pick up. Unfortunately I killed 4/5 Charr in a mob and two dropped dye... a red and a purple. As soon as I noticed this my character became frozen, two of my skills were blinking and I knew that err=7 was coming for me. I was peeved off when the err=7 ate my dye. I've never seen that much dye drop before and surely 2 dye off the same group of Charr is pretty rare. Meh. Luckily tho, an hour or so after that episode I killed a stone elemental and got a Black dye.... Then my dye drops died off and in a couple days of playing solo and with henchies all I found was a yellow.
Dax
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Because of bugged traders.
Look in over 300 hours of playing Guild Wars so far I found one black dye and that was with playing 3 characters. Other colors appear to be more common but still dye drops are rare and there is no other source of dye. Also its not like we can go kill something and know we can get a dye drop, drops are completly random and so you can kill a enemy and get a black dye and 500 hours later of killing him over and over again ... nothing. |
but back on the subject, I still can't imagine people spending the prices they do on stuff.
Sagius Truthbarron
Gone to flowers, every one!
The lack of buyers seems to pre-date the trader patch, though. If you ever noticed, you would hardly hear a single "WTB" in all of Lion's Arch and Ascalon.
The lack of buyers seems to pre-date the trader patch, though. If you ever noticed, you would hardly hear a single "WTB" in all of Lion's Arch and Ascalon.
jdwoody
You may need to be more specific. I've had no trouble selling ecto at the ToA. Why am I not buying anything? Easy, Anet recently announced that we will soon be getting lots and lots of better drops and all the prices are currently sky high, I can wait...
If someone is still selling an unid'd superior vigor rune for 40k, I'll buy that!
If someone is still selling an unid'd superior vigor rune for 40k, I'll buy that!
Aniewiel
It also could be that the word has finally gotten around that "less than perfect" items are perfectly acceptable and there really is no such thing as "l33t" stuff. People who have horded perfect damage items are finding less of a market, I'd guess, due to people finding their own "close to l33t" stuff ( 
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Phades
People also do not need to rebuy weapons every 4 levels. 1 droknar's set of armor and 1 max damage weapon will last through the entire game.
The Amazing Krandor
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It also could be that the word has finally gotten around that "less than perfect" items are perfectly acceptable and there really is no such thing as "l33t" stuff. People who have horded perfect damage items are finding less of a market, I'd guess, due to people finding their own "close to l33t" stuff (
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IxChel
I do think it is a buyer's market. I've been able to buy components at reasonable prices, my advertisement:
WTB X of Y at Z gold (2x Trader Buying Price)
I usually get good response back from people who want to sell at anything higher than the Trader will give them. Although, about 3/4 of the people want to sell me at the Trader's Selling Price -- I just ignore them.
WTB X of Y at Z gold (2x Trader Buying Price)
I usually get good response back from people who want to sell at anything higher than the Trader will give them. Although, about 3/4 of the people want to sell me at the Trader's Selling Price -- I just ignore them.
Drakron
Bugged traders as I today decided to check how much would the dye merchant pay for silver dye and I got 1gp as a offer.
His selling price?
Over 6000 gp.
I dont think traders have 6000% profit margins, I sold a superior monk rune for 40k as he was selling it at 50k and that shows something IS very wrong with some of the traders.
His selling price?
Over 6000 gp.
I dont think traders have 6000% profit margins, I sold a superior monk rune for 40k as he was selling it at 50k and that shows something IS very wrong with some of the traders.
Red Sonya
One reason it's down is because of the easy faction points now to buy runes, hilts, pommels for your PVP character. So, there's no great reason to buy the stuff from players now, just unlock them with faction points which is much easier to come by than finding the items in the game and only play PVE for the SKILLS which don't cost anything from players and are reasonably priced from the vendors.
Aniewiel
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People also do not need to rebuy weapons every 4 levels. 1 droknar's set of armor and 1 max damage weapon will last through the entire game.
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Vorlin
I'd love to be a buyer. Unfortunately, I'm just a 'normal' GW player: I start the game, play a few hours in whatever area I'm currently at for my current character, then stop. Weird, huh? *laugh* And by doing this that means all I get 99.9997% of the time is tiny piles of gold and white items that sell for small amounts of gold. So how the hell am I supposed to buy anything of any signficance? Fortunately, GW isn't much of an equipment game, so I can do just fine using generic crap gear.
I love this game, but the game economy is absolutlely the worst I've ever seen in over 15 years of gaming. It makes zero sense. Just to give one example, I sat at the dye trader the other day and watched red dye being bought by the dye trade from anywhere between 1 gold and 513 gold (and every price in between) in the space of about 20 minutes. This is especially hilarious because a lot of people are selling their items based on 'what the trader/merchant is asking', and since that price has no basis in reality they sit their for hours trying to sell something at a price they'll never get.
And then you toss in the fact that so many people have 'bot gold' (either of their own or purchased online with real money), and can pay -anything- for something, you have an economy that is completely out of control. So a person can wait hours selling a mediocre item at 40k gold, and no 'real' player can buy it, and yet if they are patient enough someone will eventually come along and pay it with their 'fake' gold.
So to sum it up: the GWars economy is completely insane, and getting what you want out of it is more of a miracle than anything else.
I love this game, but the game economy is absolutlely the worst I've ever seen in over 15 years of gaming. It makes zero sense. Just to give one example, I sat at the dye trader the other day and watched red dye being bought by the dye trade from anywhere between 1 gold and 513 gold (and every price in between) in the space of about 20 minutes. This is especially hilarious because a lot of people are selling their items based on 'what the trader/merchant is asking', and since that price has no basis in reality they sit their for hours trying to sell something at a price they'll never get.
And then you toss in the fact that so many people have 'bot gold' (either of their own or purchased online with real money), and can pay -anything- for something, you have an economy that is completely out of control. So a person can wait hours selling a mediocre item at 40k gold, and no 'real' player can buy it, and yet if they are patient enough someone will eventually come along and pay it with their 'fake' gold.
So to sum it up: the GWars economy is completely insane, and getting what you want out of it is more of a miracle than anything else.
twicky_kid
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Originally Posted by Drakron
Because of bugged traders.
Look in over 300 hours of playing Guild Wars so far I found one black dye and that was with playing 3 characters. Other colors appear to be more common but still dye drops are rare and there is no other source of dye. Also its not like we can go kill something and know we can get a dye drop, drops are completly random and so you can kill a enemy and get a black dye and 500 hours later of killing him over and over again ... nothing. |
1. people turn off the trade channel because its too much spam
2. prices are too high for most
3. people are discovering that you can spend about 20k to get the best gear (excluding armor) at least i have discovered this
4. casual players with no money.
i sell at standard prices on common material 10g. about 100g for most rare material. never even try to sell weapons unless its max dmg 15% hp>50 or enchanted. i either sell to merchants or salvage upgrades and do huge upgrade auctions. i got 45 upgrades i need to be auctioning off right now because they are spilling over to my stash.
sell your stuff for lower prices and get the inventory moved. no point in holding it for another hour just to get 2k. i can get that in 10 minutes.
Flaming Prietess
i have 3 chars and amongest the 3 i had about 50+dye drops (maybe cause of my dye farming area)
LifeInfusion
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only play PVE for the SKILLS which don't cost anything from players and are reasonably priced from the vendors.
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shinseikaze
if you want to make money go farm with a monk
Krank
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if you want to make money go farm with a monk
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thats the thing, we are stuck with items we get, cant be sold because someone has that sundering halft already, or that perfect +30 or a +29 pommel
Thanas
The game seems to have finally returned to some sort of normality with regards to trade. My major concern was selling materials. No one seemed to want them. All is better now though, made 20K out of some would and steel. Next 15K piece roll along
Red Sonya
In truth nowadays with the "rushing to Droknars allowed" and the "faction buying of runes and weapon upgrades" the only thing of real value are the "materials" for the armor upgrades and ecto is especially popular. Now I still make my 10k a day when I feel like farming and when you get to the Desert and can fight solo around there you too can get some pretty good income. I have a W/Mo build that I use just outside of Augury Rock that I can solo with easily and even though the gold/purple drop rates are down I still make quite a bit of money. The collecter gathering drops alone are worth 25gp each, that's pretty good. But, I'm one of those that doesn't expect 100k a day when I play. I think to many do and that's why many are disgruntled over the economy. Dyes and Runes are going to continue to climb, so I suggest you start adventuring more and whinning less if you want them cheaper than they are now. Either that or just play random pugs for balthazar faction and buy them that way, my pvp character has everything she needs to kick butt in the arenas, all I really need to play PVE for are the "skills".
Hookecho
As a buyer for the most part....I am tired of people selling mediocre crap for 50K.....or the fake C/O 65K.....B/O 80K for something I know I have paid 35K for that is exactly the same 1 or 2 months ago.
I have basically everthing I need so I am looking for those little extra items. The seller mentality of gosh.....I can really make a lot of cash and pay for my full 15K set on one item......is what drives a lot of this. I think it would be funny if Anet flooded the market with a ton of great drops.....and watch the market crash.....it would be funny to watch.
I have basically everthing I need so I am looking for those little extra items. The seller mentality of gosh.....I can really make a lot of cash and pay for my full 15K set on one item......is what drives a lot of this. I think it would be funny if Anet flooded the market with a ton of great drops.....and watch the market crash.....it would be funny to watch.
stumpy
they have flooded it ... thats why if I find an item thats not perfect ... and by perfect I mean all mods plus 15 over 50% with low req. If its not that then boom it goes to the merchant cause I need the space.