Summer Update = Top Secret Agenda???

Shadow_Avenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Stolen Dreams

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Weekes
*ahem* Chapter 2 in first half 2006. Since we're still in 2005, it's not late.

Summer Update will be released this summer. It's not far away, our alpha testers are having a lot of fun testing and experiencing the new material and giving us a lot of feedback.

Neither are late .
I should never type before I am awake and drunk my first cup of coffee in the morning, You do understand my point though, a summer update, would be june / july in 90% of people minds, it would have been better to have stated a autum date for the free expansion, as thats what it seems like it is going to be.
Thanks for confirming the expansion will be available by June of next year and No later

Bingley Joe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Philosophers of Denravi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger
a summer update, would be june / july in 90% of people minds

I really hope that there are more than 10% of us scattered around who have enough of a clue to understand that a "summer update" would refer to an update occurring at any time during the "summer", and that an update occurring in June/July would best be referred to as a "June/July Update".


Yeesh..

Half the time I expect to fire up the game and just see a big picture of GoatSe Man and the words "Thanks for the ulcers! Everyone here at ANet HATES YOU NOW! Plz use the search. Game closed."

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

So much love floating around in this GW community!

Gaile, I love you! ArenaNet, I love you! Guild Wars, I love you! Adriana Lima, I love you! Heidi Klum, I love you! Avril Lavigne, I love you! Jessica Alba, I love you!

sidepocket13

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

New England

Metallica Roadies

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger
Thanks for confirming the expansion will be available by June of next year and No later

now see, that makes more sense because they said first half of 2006. saying that 90% of people think a summer update will be june/july is the same as saying 90% of people expect the new release to be in January! because technically january is still in the first half.......

Shadow_Avenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Stolen Dreams

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingley Joe
I really hope that there are more than 10% of us scattered around who have enough of a clue to understand that a "summer update" would refer to an update occurring at any time during the "summer", and that an update occurring in June/July would best be referred to as a "June/July Update".


Yeesh..

Half the time I expect to fire up the game and just see a big picture of GoatSe Man and the words "Thanks for the ulcers! Everyone here at ANet HATES YOU NOW! Plz use the search. Game closed."
WOW knickers in a twist?

I should have said august as well, but definately not September onward, they have 3 weeks too go.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by raven214
For some reason I got it in my head that mid/late July would be a good time for the "summer" update. That being said, we still have more than a month left to summer, and I'd rather see it released late but good rather than on-time & buggy. I'm not hoping for too much - I'm sure it will be fun - I just hope they make some sort of change/fix to the economy.


Hope I'm not getting too off-topic, but what was the cost of those runes? Last time I checked, the most I can (dependably) make in an hour is around 4k.... I've seen some runes around 30k and above. So if I played the game straight for 7-8 hours, I could afford one. And that's assuming I'm playing with one of my ascended characters (I'm currently working on a mid level monk). And that's assuming I have no life (which I do, so 7-8 hours straight isn't really an option.. and is probably unhealthy anyways ).

pay attention to the dye/material/rare market. Once something drops under what it's normally selling for purchase as much of it as you possibly can and sit on it until it goes up(which should be about a day or two). I made about 90 plat selling silver dye yesterday in about an hour. Also don't buy runes from the trader. I bought a Superior Smiting and Superior Divine yesterday for 35 plat(both runes)...

Bingley Joe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Philosophers of Denravi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger
definately not September onward, they have 3 weeks too go.


I shall notify the press immediately.

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I am bored with all this Summer Update chat.

Whats next, asking in November when is the expansion comming out.

So let them release what ever they want to release and when ever they want.

If I am bored I play something else I don’t go on about when the next update is or whatever.

I have learn this after playing D2 for many years put it aside then d2 LOD again 2 years playing put aside and back again. if an update Comes it comes if it doest it doest dont act like this is the only good game out there.

Live it self is already stressful as it is so I am not going to stress out about a “Summer Update” that may be coming out in the autumn.

Sentinel

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Somerset, NJ

aB

I have a question for Gaile and/or Alex....

What are the qualities you are looking for in an Alpha tester?

Cause I'm pretty sure I have all of them!!!!

Sent.-

JoDiamonds

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

Thanks for the words of encouragement, Gaile and Alex.

My favorite part of the original post is how at one moment the poster complains that the news was released too early, and then immediately complains that they shouldn't keep it secret until the last minute. I think that anyone who lives by that contrary pair of goals is setting themselves to always be unhappy.

Quote:
it seems that they might have gotten everyone far too psyched up about this event by putting it in the news section WAY too early. I don't really feel that this a decent way to do things, you know the whole "keep it secret until the last minute" thing

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

next item on our list of demand is

we need to know specifically what the update is, the design layout of the new zones, the mobs' attributes, the loot table of those zones, what professional and skills are affected and in what way, and how we should be prepared for this update.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xonic
next item on our list of demand is

we need to know specifically what the update is, the design layout of the new zones, the mobs' attributes, the loot table of those zones, what professional and skills are affected and in what way, and how we should be prepared for this update.
and those are just the initial demands.

just wait and see what else we will demand as our just deserts.

laughing to much to type

getting lunch plus deserts

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

We also demand that you release atleast 4 builds that will be best for explorer the new areas and a button we can hit to activate skills in a pre-set order of importance. No mobs should be able to do more than 4 dmg per hit and mobs should sensitive to all elements...not just one element.

Thank you.

Santanus_Perro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Scott Township, PA

Iron Rangers

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by funbun
Guild Wars does have grind. It's called PvP. Also, how is my monk supposed to buy 75k sup runes? 4 runes @ 75k = 300k. There is no grind? Think again.

But you are right about the builds. These characters are very customizable.

Isn't that a catch 22. You want 4 sup runes to get the 105 build to farm (grind) UW/FoW, but you don't want to farm (grind) to get the superior runes.

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Santanus_Perro
Isn't that a catch 22. You want 4 sup runes to get the 105 build to farm (grind) UW/FoW, but you don't want to farm (grind) to get the superior runes.
many GW players will find this game much better for them:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42557

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

It would be called the summer update so you can remember waiting for it all summer long. And it comes out at the end of summer.

Its like Christmas season, witch ends the day after Christmas. More then half the fun of Christmas is counting down weeks and days hurting yourself just thinking about the nice baseball bat your gonna get. Only Christmas always has a release date. So this is more of a one of those days pop-up surprize Christmas.

Ashley Twig

Ashley Twig

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Join Date: May 2005

germany

Guild Of Openhearted Deeds

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Wow, what a great motto. Must be fun when everything is exciting. Look, the sun rose again this morning! I hoped it would, but I didn't want to hope too much.
In latin, this concept is called 'carpe diem', and most people like it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Makes it easier at a restaurant - you order something and if it is remotely edible it's a good day - you wouldn't want to aim for something tasty or nutritious, that might get you disappointed.
Depite all the sarcasm, I think you're getting my point.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Sorry if I sound harsh, but really the idea of not expecting anything in order to be pleasantly surprised is a bit absurd.
Don't worry about being harsh. I'm used to it. My oppinions about things are not always popular and getting a reply is better than being ignored, like SOME people do.

As there are lots of absurd concepts like doing a summer update in autum or going farming, it's up to the individual to go with a concept or not.

Living the idea of 'carpe diem' is not easy and I fail a lot. But I'm confident, that I'm getting better at it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
It may be a bit of reductio ad absurdum to make it sound like you should be pleased if you get anything to eat at a restaurant, but the point is there - frankly, a little disappointment in life won't kill you, and I'd rather have realistic expectations than try to fool myself into being giddy with crap.
If we all had realistic expectations, this forum would be overloaded with complaints about how bad certain things really are.

Somhairle Isis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

KILLinois

Defiant Fist

W/Mo

Christ, you people need to stop bitching.

If I were Gaile, I wouldn't even visit these forums what with all the constant bickering.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Somhairle Isis
Christ, you people need to stop bitching.

If I were Gaile, I wouldn't even visit these forums what with all the constant bickering.
Oh, no, it's ok, really. I mean, yes, it would be nice to have a lot more positive comments and a lot fewer heated ones, but it's good that people are excited about the game and it's really good that they're looking forward to the Summer Update. No harm, no foul.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Maybe the summer update will even let you uncustomize items. :O

Omega Complex

Omega Complex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arlington, TX

The bosses have been branded, the day is near!

*points at sky* "The update, boss, the update!"

(anyone know where that "phrase" comes from? I'm not even that old either ^.^)

Howling Wind

Howling Wind

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Join Date: May 2005

Down The Road

R/Mo

Would be funny if they release the "summer update" in autumn.

Omega Complex

Omega Complex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arlington, TX

NOOOOOOO!

Well, up until like September its still Summer so technically this could last till September 21, 2005. >.<

stone cold monkey grip

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

I don't care if it is next year, I'll still be playing.

Are the complainers forgetting that ANet does not work for you, they do work for your enjoyment. There is a HUGE difference.

You all are doing a great job of keeping the Magic The Gathering, minded players entertained, its a shame that some people don't like to use strategy and thought out plans. Keep it moving!

Sunman222

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Moa Birds

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by stone cold monkey grip
I don't care if it is next year, I'll still be playing.

Are the complainers forgetting that ANet does not work for you, they do work for your enjoyment. There is a HUGE difference.

You all are doing a great job of keeping the Magic The Gathering, minded players entertained, its a shame that some people don't like to use strategy and thought out plans. Keep it moving!
You couldn't be more wrong, their customers keep them in business.

stone cold monkey grip

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Their customers keep them in business, yes.

But they do not have to bow to the people who constantly complain and will never be happy with anything. You know, the psuedo-industry types that think they could do it better, when they will never make it any further than knocking other people down on a forum for their own ego.

Wait, did I just do that? lol

Omega Complex

Omega Complex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arlington, TX

Ok, i wasnt ranting and raving, just getting excited. I'll still be playing when it comes out, I'll still be playing next year when chapter 2 releases. I'll still be playing because I dont play GW 24/7/365. I play CoD, BF2, Warcraft, Starcraft, DoW, Heroes III (woot), ect... People start whining that they have nothing to do, well, go do something else for a change...

Me, i'll just sit here patiently in my corner whistling Dixie till the update comes out *starts whistling*

Sunman222

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Moa Birds

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by stone cold monkey grip
Their customers keep them in business, yes.

But they do not have to bow to the people who constantly complain and will never be happy with anything. You know, the psuedo-industry types that think they could do it better, when they will never make it any further than knocking other people down on a forum for their own ego.

Wait, did I just do that? lol
Well obviously these people think they could do it better, since they left Blizzard.

stone cold monkey grip

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

I am talking about the people who get on here and talk like armchair developers. People that think they know what makes a game good or not.

I am not talking about the developers of GW.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Heh, they left Blizzard when Vivendi Universal started to make demands not because they thought they could do better but because VU is an oppressive publishing company that can make a developers life miserable if you don't follow their every whim (see VU vs. Valve)

Synncial77

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaile, remember, the main reason *most* people visit game forums are:

1) to troubleshoot performance issues and see if anyone else is having the same issues so that they can quickly solve their problem.

2) complain about how the game isn't balanced, stable, intuitive, long enough, laggy, and so on.

3) Other: Hints, strategy, builds, quick ways to progress with as little work as possible...

And seriously, if you go to ANY game forum you'll see that #2 (Complain) comprises of the overwhelming majority.

In very few circumstances will someone join a forum with the singular goal of praising a game for how well it's made/how fun it is.

Also note that the majority of game players don't actually go to forums anyways. They just play the game. It's only us select minority that actually go onto the forums.

Anyways, I think that Guild Wars was a great game. I unfortunately have to say "was" because I, like others, pretty much ran out of stuff to do pretty quickly and really have no reason to create yet another PvE character. This isn't a bad thing mind you....just not what I expected. I'm positive that I'll be buying Chapter 2 the moment it comes out but I think that I've pretty much had all the fun that I can take from "Chapter 1".

To close, I'd like to say that Guild Wars was an incredible change of pace and a welcome addition to my game library. It's focus on teamwork was a refreshing take on the genre. I hope that the developers have found this profitable enough to continue what they're doing as I look forward for something new to do/strive for.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

I'm pretty sure all the kids playing the game consider summer to equal at least beginning of August so they would have had a good chance to enjoy it. I don't see what's hard to understand about that, most of them are going to be busy as heck once school starts and it's already looking too late for them to get a "summer" enjoyment of said content.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by stone cold monkey grip
Their customers keep them in business, yes.

But they do not have to bow to the people who constantly complain and will never be happy with anything. You know, the psuedo-industry types that think they could do it better, when they will never make it any further than knocking other people down on a forum for their own ego.

Wait, did I just do that? lol
People only complain en masse when there are actual problems. During the betas messageboards were practically dead of any posts because everyone was enjoying the game. Then afterwards we'd post how much fun things were. So spare the psycho analyst stuff, we already have proof of how the community is when happy, and how it is when genuinely upset.