Why is 100 blades an elite... WOW it swipes twice! woopeee!
lol
Cyclone axe should be made elite if that's the case.
Cyclone axe vs 100 blades
LifeInfusion
MCS
Double Damage to target.
+9 damage to target.
+9 damage to target.
Red Sonya
Well cyclone axe just hits everyone once with a +10 dmg and only 1 critical chance per hit, while 100 blades hits everything twice with TWO critical chances per hit. So in the long term 100 blades will do a lot more damage than cyclone axe because of the critical chances.
LifeInfusion
um, the recharge is also double, and it doesn't do double damage. It just swings twice.
In other words, you hit twice and armor is counted twice. When you use cyclone axe armor is counted once.
100 Blades: 8 recharge
Cyclone axe: 4 recharge
100 Blades: hits adjacent and target
Cyclone axe: hits all around you
In other words, you hit twice and armor is counted twice. When you use cyclone axe armor is counted once.
100 Blades: 8 recharge
Cyclone axe: 4 recharge
100 Blades: hits adjacent and target
Cyclone axe: hits all around you
carnivore
swinging twice basicly means double damage, even moreso if u can land critical hits on both. 100 blades is just more convienent in the general use. cyclone axe is useless if ur 1on1. against 1-3 foes then 100 blades will still hit them all twice but it does have the 8 second recharge. this is when cyclone axe is supperior. you can swing it twice in the same amount of time and each of it comes with +damage. so hundred blades is for.....people who use swords. duh.
The Flash
how about the armor penetration 10/10 will it work on cyclone axe?
Red Sonya
Let's not leave out that axe has a low of 6 dmg while sword has a low of 15 dmg. This makes all the difference between the two when their lows come up. Vs their highs of 22 and 28, only a 6pt difference in the highs, but, a 9pt difference in the lows. Also the "spread" of the damage from 6 to 28 is a lot futher apart than 15 to 22, a whole 22 spread for an axe vs only a 7 spread for a sword. So in 100 blows as in 100 blades, the sword would do more damage output in the longterm than the axe and cyclone axe. 
johnnylange
This sounds like a discussion that should be in The Riverside Inn forum.
LifeInfusion
I'm a sword user, I'm jsut wondering why sword users get shafted by having Hundred blades as an elite... it means I can't use other skills, say "Flourish" for example.
carnivore
then dont use hundred blades. i agree you got shafted when it became an elite, but i guess it was just to good before it was an elite....or the IWers went crazy with it
ComMan
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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
I'm a sword user, I'm jsut wondering why sword users get shafted by having Hundred blades as an elite... it means I can't use other skills, say "Flourish" for example.
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firstwave
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Originally Posted by Red Sonya
Let's not leave out that axe has a low of 6 dmg while sword has a low of 15 dmg. This makes all the difference between the two when their lows come up. Vs their highs of 22 and 28, only a 6pt difference in the highs, but, a 9pt difference in the lows. Also the "spread" of the damage from 6 to 28 is a lot futher apart than 15 to 22, a whole 22 spread for an axe vs only a 7 spread for a sword. So in 100 blows as in 100 blades, the sword would do more damage output in the longterm than the axe and cyclone axe.
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In this game, 6-28 does more damage than 15-22. Also 100 blades is an elite skill while cyclone axe is a normal skill. So it's quite obvious that in 100 blows, 100 blades does more damage than cyclone axe.
Thomasuwoo
If you think Cyclone axe is so much better then why don't you switch to it? Most people won't use axes because they don't like the skills that come with the axe.
It's interesting. if you want your sword (Mainly for attacking one target in my opinion) to strike many targets you have to spend an elite (Hundered Blades.)
If you want your axe (Mainly desinged for striking multiple opponents in my Opinion to strike hard on a single target you have to and elite (Cleave.)
I do realise that a huge generalisation but think about it.
And yes this post should be moved.
It's interesting. if you want your sword (Mainly for attacking one target in my opinion) to strike many targets you have to spend an elite (Hundered Blades.)
If you want your axe (Mainly desinged for striking multiple opponents in my Opinion to strike hard on a single target you have to and elite (Cleave.)
I do realise that a huge generalisation but think about it.
And yes this post should be moved.
Nash
Hundred Blades was a decent non-elite. It has now been "balanced" into a trash elite, like Healing Hands.
carnivore
healing hands? trash? tell that to the w/mo farmers
Gomezie
Hundred Blades rocks.. more so with this update.. it does true 100% damage where as before it only did 75%
FrogDevourer
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This sounds like a discussion that should be in The Riverside Inn forum.
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noblepaladin
Healing Hands is weak except to W/Mo who actually take less damage than they are healed for, essentially making the character invulnerable and recieve healing at the same time. Cyclone axe sucks except when there are several monsters hitting you, which usually is not the case except in solo farming situations. When there are about 2-3 monsters like the usual situation in PvE parties, hundred blades work better, although I still don't think works good enough to be an elite. I'd much rather have healing hands. 
stumpy
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then dont use hundred blades. i agree you got shafted when it became an elite, but i guess it was just to good before it was an elite....or the IWers went crazy with it
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octaviancmb
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yep ... i remember those days ... when the IW was deicovered that it works with hundred bladeds when it was none elite ... just saw a bunch of omfg wtf i r0xx0r this n00b badazz with IW and hundred blades ;-)
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CMB, who wishes he could use IW and Hundred Blades together without using 3 skill slots on his bar...
Vermilion Okeanos
The reason of many skills are elites are purely because if it was to be combine with other skill that it would force the community to play in a certain way...
IW + HD used to be pretty good (AoE 80+ dmg...)... still can be archieve, but at least now it come with price tag... however, the elite tag kind of screw the warriors over.
IW + HD used to be pretty good (AoE 80+ dmg...)... still can be archieve, but at least now it come with price tag... however, the elite tag kind of screw the warriors over.
tastegw
imo cyclone > hundred blades due to the range of each skill
cyclone is more spammable and when used with a zealous axe upgrade, its a great energy management skill if you need it.
but on the other hand, i no longer use either and will never use HB again due to its very small range.
altho both skills have their place in different builds, ill leave that for others to play.
cyclone is more spammable and when used with a zealous axe upgrade, its a great energy management skill if you need it.
but on the other hand, i no longer use either and will never use HB again due to its very small range.
altho both skills have their place in different builds, ill leave that for others to play.