Defiant Fist vs. Or Die Trying

I'd just like to say to the ODT crew that that was one of the most amazing guild battles. It was truly back and forth the entire time with no one guild holding tower for more than a minute at a time. It was a 50 minute epic that we will be talking about for a long, long time.

Good showing to both guilds! Great match! Let's do it again sometime.

Or Die trying is a terrible guild they abuse spirit spam and my guild was killing there monks through symbiosis and fertile.

thats nice....it was still a good battle none the less

We beat ODT in the Alienpod Tournament...

They used a spirit build then too...

A team doesn't have to be number one in the world for a battle to be hard fought. I've seen the worst teams in college basketball give it their all and give the top teams a hard fought battle.

I made this topic to give them a thanks for the fun battle. Not a place for people like you (Knight) to polish up on being a butt.

I had fun last night. End of story.

I guess im just a angry noob w/n that dislikes spirit spam and can't counter it forgive me

We recently fought Defiant Fist. They're a great guild, and play very fair rather than using FotM builds or zerging our Guild Lords. They're also one of the few guilds I have recently fought that isn't full of assholes that mock their enemies the entire round. (we lost. perhaps we can rematch when we have a full team and build )

THANKS GUYS!

it's too bad our stupid npc archers got STUCK on the stupid lever when it was time for Victory or Death...

i'm sure you noticed how funny that was....and how sad it was for us...

GG's, though. it was a great battle indeed, until the very end.

i think it's because your guild sucks?
j/k!

sorry if we upset you or something, we aren't assholes like most of the top-ranked guilds. we know when we're beat, and know when we're not.

we congratulate our victors, and "try again".

it's called "Edge of Extinction"

try Smiting, or even AoE spells...LOTS of ways to kill spirits...

most of our officers weren't on for that battle...me included.
some of them went to do other things during the weekend...bah!

i'm sure you deserved the win, nonetheless.

oh noes oh noes! i was the flagrunner for ODT

>_> bleh... i really need to get better at that =.=

Reikai...I have to admit that you were one of the most annoying flag runners i've ever come across. At one point I decided to FOLLOW you back when your flag would respawn and meet you at your gate. It didn't matter if I called you out as target before you exited you area or not...we'd do everything in our power to block you but you kept finding a way to cap.

Weezer Blue...Thanks a lot. We strive not only to be a great guild but a great group of guys and gals.

Crest...Yeah, we saw that. They were totally lined up and almost impossible to get by. We had to lure and spread them out in order to finish them off. We had a good chuckle at that.


ODT: We should rematch. We had a blast. Get ahold of me!

im sory im not in this gvg it sound so much fun !

yes, it was fun.

Yeah try and kill some spirits with edge and the oath shot ranger drops another 5 =/

Wow, I haven't been back to GWG for a bit, but the news filtered back through our forums.. thanks so much for the props, and we're definitely looking forward to playing against you again.

This was a close match, but I think Winter and I assume Mantra of Frost on the Fist side led them to victory. When we were able to get/keep Winter down, we accumulated kills and they accumulated debt. When they were able to keep it up we didn't have enough offense to punch through it and our energy drain was countered by Mantra of Frost. Eventually we got into an extended standoff at the flagstand and couldn't keep winter down; the Fist skillfully picked away at whatever weak points they could find and managed to get the first couple kills, which allowed them to focus fire on the DPed players to accumulate more DP, and eventually we were fighting down a Warrior against a defense we were already having problems with.

By the time we realized we were starting to have trouble, we had to start planning for Victory or Death. Unfortunately, when V or D finally happened all of our NPCs got stuck on the gate lever inside our hall while the Fist NPCs charged the flagstand and overwhelmed us. This put two of us at 60 DP and essentially ended the game.

Everyone over here at ODT agrees, this was one heck of a match. I've been in a few 45+ minute fights and this was the only one that didn't seem to take forever. We look forward to playing against you again in the future.

About spirits as it relates to this thread:

We tend to run a build that uses Fertile and Symbiosis when we're training new members, because the defensive bonuses make the match last longer and therefore give our new members the opportunity to gain more battle experience. When we run an offensive build with new players in the group, we tend to either win or lose too quickly to get anything out of the battle but a change in guild rank. A really skilled team rips apart our Fertile build; good disruption or denial players stop this build dead all the time. If we're running our Fertile build, we're not spamming spirits; we're using two spirits to slow the pace of the match and ruin spike teams. I'm not talking about Aeromancers specifically; anything that is based on "I do 500 dmg in 1s ftw gg" is a spike team and suffers under Fertile because people live through spike and monks react. We were unfortunate to have 5 of our 8 planned team members fail to show up for the Alienpod tournament and therefore ran a build we viewed as safe; and if I recall correctly, it was still a pretty good fight.

*sigh* I still can't write anything shorter than a term paper.

Well put, buddy. Consider DF your friends.

www.defiantfist.com

sign up

Oh, yeah, forgot that this isn't in my sig here.

http://www.ordietrying.net

Or straight to our forums at..

http://www.ordietrying.net/forums/index.php

So I guess thats why my guild was killing your monks through fertile and symbosis, you where teaching new players out? =_=

Just saw this thread sitting around... LoL, sounds like you guys had some good fun.

For the years I played my FPS games, theres one golden rule I accepted and still keep to durning any type of serious game play, or even hell, for fun sometimes: Typing = Death.

People who decide to stop half way and type some mocking sentence out at others typically are setting themselves up for a good beating. Last time I checked, you can't play the game if your too busy talking. =)

that's our "training build" - we had a lot of fresh new faces recently added into the guild.

team chemistry is important, and so Hart chose to run the build where we can get a feel of the new recruits.

(we're climbing back up the ranks... )

...down to as low as 400, and making our way back up? watch for us...

Rofl ODT, back when i was in heavens legion [HOLY] (Before it died) we were facing ODT and we beat them, they kept swearing at us in all chat, harrasing me in PMs, and calling us noobs, and claiming they "owned" us at the first battle @ flagstand. rofl..
Sad bunch of guys.

horrible team, bad sports, sore losers. stay far far away.

yeah we, defiant fist, have a lot of new members...me being one of them. I think in that match we had 2 or 3. it was extremely fun nonetheless.

HOLY sucks now! I heard it was sold, and went downhill from there!

so you don't have room to talk!

currently 991? wow!

Thread didn't degenerate too badly I guess.

Definitely a fun/intense match. Shame your archers couldn't path around the switch, would have been an interesting finish. Well played anyway though.

We've tried to operate in a similiar way, using more defensive builds to prolong matches to give more experience to our newer members. Definitely prolonged that one ;P

rank 180 now

maybe thinking about le ordre de tyria? I believe theres 3 ODT's and i dont think that sounds like us to take one loss so hard that we swould actually pm members from the other guild.

uh yeah right...


yeah HOLY sucks, we sold it, no **** it went downhill, since we sold it , am i still in HOLY? nope.
The fact is still we beat you in GvG, and you guys got mad , talked sh$$*T , harrased us im PMs, etc.

Or die Trying, i remember it was you guys due to the annoying fire map (
I find it hard to belive it was someone else seeing Crests reply.

Heh that explains why holy hasint faced us. And yes we did insault them i was in that fight, all but 2 members were new and didint know any better and we did appologize, also it wasnt as bad as they make it sound. Holy fired just as many and we had a laugh at some of there insaults. Out of the 3 we played agensed them we won 2 times and lost once if i am correct. ANd so you all know i am the spirit spamer who didint spam spirits, there is no point in out trainer build, our other builds that are ment to fight and requior spamers. But as hart said our trainer build is to brake the newer members of out guild in. Currently our guild is ranked 159 as of now. From thurs. we have rose from around 400. Our new members are starting to get the hang of it.

genoooo...beeee nicceee!!!

iirc , we beat you guys the two times we faced you.
If you have beat us more times, it was probably after we sold the guild.
Since i cant remember losing to you EVER.

First time we ganked you on the lava map lol.
Second time You attacked us and beat us first fight at flag stand and held us in our base for about 5 minutes, before we sent 4 guys out to your lord, and "ganked" your lord. during that second gank, you guys would throw insults at us like crazy , and after we won, you would pm us and call us "noobs".

now, since HOLY is dead, there is no point in this discussion, especially since its funny how this crest guy thinks you guys are so super good.

you guys are a decent team, and seemed to have really good coordination and build, but work on your attitude, and ill have much respect for you guys
anyways good luck with your future , and im sure you guys will rise to the top soon
just need to get rid of this "we are so super leet" attitude.

=)

hope to face you guys again (when i find a new guild lol)

(btw you have never beat us, so i dont know why you think you have,a quick look on your website proves me right.)

not all wins and loss's were recorded, at some dates our record keeper was gone and didint get them up. to the rest of your post i will let a cooler head from our guild reply because i dono how to reply to those insaults.

well we didnt start loading wins and losses up until a few months back. if you look at our record on the ladder you will see the record there is different than the record on our site. Anyways im sorry for the misunderstanding and good luck finding a new guild.

Guys, that former HOLY guy...just let him speak and whatever.

HOLY is dead; ODT is alive and kicking...

We're still relatively high on the ranks, while he's scratching himself, waiting for the ladder to reset.


At least we have stayed active, win, loss, or whatever. WE DIDN'T SELL OUR NAME AWAY.

I hate having to defend our guild from the "haters". But whatever.



This thread has degenerated to EX-HOLY vs ODT. Someone please close the thread, since it's off-topic from the original message, which was the fact that Defiant Fist giving us props, and us giving DF the same respect.

well lol i dont think its his fault holy got sold but yeah this thread has gotten a bit off topic

as i can see this is a obvious flame directed at me, ill have to flame back.
I have tried to be nice in my other threads, but this is just crossing the line.

we have already come across the point HOLY is dead.
Since when is Considered high ranking? thats HORRIBLE. you can get to the top 100 by going 15-0 or so.
Sure its high when comparing it with HOLY , but wait [HOLY] is dead, so whats the point in comparing?
and if you HAVE to compare,
Try comparing it to our Peak, when we were at Rank 18th.


So dont be acting like your guild is all good and mighty when its NOT.
You obviously cannot get over your self, and dont seem to understand the fact that Rank 132 is NOT GOOD.
i dont mean to be flaming your guild, since like i said before, you guys seemed like a really great bunch of people from what i have read in this thread and from previous expiriencse, and i really feel bad making this post.
BUT people like crest just dont seem to know when too stop.

YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHY WE SOLD OUR GUILD, SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK.

Active? Yep, we still are, the people who stayed with GW are now in high ranked guilds just as ,
People who Pwn, Esoteric Warriors, Nintendo Power, Marvel Superheroes , Do Not Pass Go, You Vs Me, The Morning After, Breakfast Cereal, etc. whereas the others are now going on with their lives or playing other games.

With school starting soon and such, i decided i dont have enormous amounts of time to put into this game, which is why i am not really looking for a Guild right now, that explains why i am not in a guild right now.
If i wanted i could join one of the above since i know people in those guilds , yet the fact is I dont have the time or will too.


Like i said, To other ODT members i apologize for this thread, and none of it was meant as a flame toward any of you .
This post was directed at Crest, who obviously is giving your Guild a VERY bad name by posting things like this in this thread, and i hope you understand that.


Now im expecting some ignorant half witted responce claiming how ODT is alive and HOLY is dead, so apparently his guild was better.

Learn to have some Respect for Other Guilds, and maybe people will start respecting you. But this thread and recent posts by Crest probably have caused alot of people to lose respect for your Guild.

( i still think you are a great bunch of guys =)

edit: now that i think of it, Crest was probably the guy talking smack after both times we beat you =\

to the leaders of odt : do someting about smack talkers, unlses you want a Bad Rep.

crest : you obviously dont like it when i say smack about your guild, yet you are saying crap about [HOLY] that YOU DONT EVEN KNOW, so dont expect to get off easy from me.

CREST GOT OWNED.

Or Die Trying members: Do not reply to this thread. It has degenerated into a series of allegations which do not warrant further discussion.

Thank you again to Defiant Fist for the complement. I regret that several individuals viewed it as an opportunity to slander our guild. Anyone interested in our outlook or rules of conduct can view our credo or forums at ordietrying.net.

hmm just faced u guys @ burial. gg.