Where will Sorrow's Furnace/Grenth's Footprint be on the map?

KnightOfOldeTyria

KnightOfOldeTyria

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Knights Of Olde Tyria

Me/N

I've been all over the map. By 'all over', I mean, I've filled it out almost completely (except that darn spot in The Falls). Ever since I heard of the Summer Update and the new places being added, I've been trying to figure out where exactly they will be. I've considered it may be near the Grenth Statue area in southern Lornar's Pass or even connected to Dreadnought's Drift. It may even be in the spot between the bottom of the Frost Gate map and the Southern Shiverpeaks (its a pretty big empty space with a shadow of what looks to be a canyon or frozen lake in the middle). But with no concrete info on where its going to be, its anyones guess as to where ArenaNet has put it.

Anyone have any info/rumors/hints as to the future whereabouts of Sorrow's Furnace/Grenth's Footprint? Thanks

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

no idea yet. i'm sure we'll all find out soon enough.

Splatter Mcnasty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Utah

W/Mo

My guess would be 2 of the 3 unused Avatars in the Temple of Ages.

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

I'm guessing that this is Grenth's Footprint:

http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/5...tprint18vs.jpg

I also think that was the place you were referring to ;p

Tourist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

If you look at the description on the GW webpage, it sounds like it will be somewhere in the Lornar's Pass/Dreadnaught Drift/Snake Dance area, on the eastern side. It won't be at ToA, that's for certain. Oh, and word is that Grenth's Footprint will be the above-ground explorable area, with Sorrow's Furnace itself being a dungeon area underneath- kinda like the catacombs in pre-searing.

edit: yeah, super dooper has the right idea I think. Somewhere in that area.

KnightOfOldeTyria

KnightOfOldeTyria

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Knights Of Olde Tyria

Me/N

I figured that area as well. I explored up in that area just yesterday, the little temple-like area near the Grenth statue is kind of mysterious. Maybe that will be the entrance. Of course, getting up to that point is a hard task itself. Took me about 2 hours of work to clear a path up there from Camp Rankor with a team of henchies, but clearing that up on my map was worth it. Hopefully, if that is the entrance to Sorrow's/Grenth's, A'net will add a new outpost we can map to.

Tourist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

I would expect so, seems a bit much to ask folks to stick together long enough to run/fight their way up there, then stick together all through Grenth's Footprint(assuming it's a solid, full-sized area with challenges enough for a group of ascended players), and then together for even longer STILL in the dungeon areas of Sorrow's Furnace itself. There just about NEEDS to be some kinda outpost in that area for folks to regroup and rearm themselves for further adventures into the new areas.

Dyeeo

Dyeeo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego

Lost Children

E/Mo

I can already see it: LF Runner to Grenth's Footprint paying 2k!

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Hmm... prehaps from Grenth's Footprints you find the entrance to Sorrow's Furnace? Only the strong players with skills at the game would be able to make it there and earn whatever may be in the furnace.

Khem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I find it rather odd to assume that the entrace will be a god-statue..it doesnt have anything to do with a god..but with the Stone Summit.

My best guess would be a second entrance in Tascia (sp?) Demise, the area north of the Citadel HEAVILY infested by Summit.

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

yeah, but we can't just throw the idea out, I mean.. Grenth's Footprint.. an area that looks like a footprint on the map.. near a statue of Grenth..

Khem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by super dooper
yeah, but we can't just throw the idea out, I mean.. Grenth's Footprint.. an area that looks like a footprint on the map.. near a statue of Grenth.. Well I guess the area is correct, not many unexplored area left in Summit terrain, but I just dont think the entrance is a god statue -_-'> , Tasca's demise also borders to that area, and since its alot better/faster accessable from a town I guess it's a better guess ^^

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

Actually the Sorrows are the claw shaped peninsula to the south west of droknars. and the area in droknars that looks like a Ship dock is said to be the access portal to the new region... Since at the end of hell's precipice you go to droknars, this is a logical place for the next step in the story. (That is unless you have to do Hells Precipice mission again to get to it. which is also a possibility). I don't remember exactly where I found where that area was called the sorrows. it may have been in the Manuscripts that came with the game. I believe that this update will be mostly based on the Ruins of Orr... the last human culture from the storyline, Not addressed yet. We know the Charr never made it to Arah (Orrs capital city), but that the result was near complete devistation of the kingdom. and nearly all were lost in this region. I believe the Sage of Orr is the Lich... Personal opinion only. but From the story line that makes the most since. Since he turned to dark magics to try to save Orr, and instead destroryed it.

Edit: In fact that is where it was. In the part with the history of Tyria Pg 27. On the map... the Sea of Sorrows... is the Sea where the Guild Hall island is. The former Bay of Sirens (pre searing)[renamed in 1071 AE right after the first Guild Wars ended], is the likely staging ground for the new Explorable area. So the area to the south east of the guild and the south west of droknars is the likely location for the new areas.

Cantha is the land to the far south west, which does not appear on the map currently. that is the new content for Chapter Two.

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khem
Well I guess the area is correct, not many unexplored area left in Summit terrain, but I just dont think the entrance is a god statue -_-'> , Tasca's demise also borders to that area, and since its alot better/faster accessable from a town I guess it's a better guess ^^ oh, right.. I don't think the entrance will be the statue itself, but I'm thinking there will be an entrance near there in that little 'hall', 'cove', 'thingy', that leads back to the statue.

I guess we'll see when it comes out, I don't really care how we're going to access it, but I can't wait for it. :P (it is fun guessing though)

Tourist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

ok, to clarify things and dispell some of the more...curious ideas about where Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Furnace are located, here's the lowdown from the GW website's Lore Entry on Sorrow's Furnace:

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On the eastern slopes of Lornar's Pass, north of Camp Rankor rests the deep, slag-strewn expanse of Grenth's Footprint. Once a sacred place for the dwarves of Deldrimor, the peak itself has been completely dismantled, and the land torn open to get at the precious metals beneath the soil. The Stone Summit have dug deep into the Shiverpeak Mountains. Underneath the stripped, barren land, are the all-but-depleted mining shafts of Sorrow's Furnace. So, unless they've changed it from what they're own lore says(which is possible but not likely), Grenth's Footprint will be somewhere in the Lornar's Pass/Dreadnaught Drifts/Snake Dance area, on the eastern side of those areas and(my guess is) somewhat closer to the northern end of that run than the south. But it sure doesn't sound to be a teleporting thing like UW and FoW, or anything directly accessible from the Forge. I do like the notion of an entrance from Tasca's Demise though, it would give that region some other purpose than just skill farming out to Mineral Springs. And, looking at the map a bit, it would fit pretty well as a southern entrypoint if Grenth's Footprint is where I think it will be.

HowardJones

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

I hope its at one of those statues we find in lornars or snake dance. I found the statue to LYssa and to my suprise got infused there plus there is the one in dreadnaughts and then another outside dreadnaughts in lornars. I like the idea that we have to play for an hour or two to get to something cool and rather not map to it.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by super dooper
I'm guessing that this is Grenth's Footprint:

http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/5...tprint18vs.jpg

I also think that was the place you were referring to ;p If that is the area, I wonder if this area between the Citadel and Copperhammer Mines would be the entrance.

super dooper

super dooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

W/

do you have a shot of that area on the map? I can't really tell where it's at by looking at the compass. That would be cool.

edit: or is that the area by Runewhat'shisname and what'shisname with Skull Crack?

Puddin Tame

Puddin Tame

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Wouldn't you like to know

Pretty Horsies Arouse Greatly

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In one of the northen shiverpeak missions, I forget which one. (well ,there are only like 3)
has an area in it where you go over some bridges which look A HELL OF A LOT like the summer update video recently posted on guildwars.com.

I'm going to guess a new outpost, where you can go to Grenth's Footpring, where you can either clear it or run to strait to the furnace. Which, if true, would make the droknars forge run look like the run from Embassador Zain to Captain Osiric.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by super dooper
do you have a shot of that area on the map? I can't really tell where it's at by looking at the compass. That would be cool.

edit: or is that the area by Runewhat'shisname and what'shisname with Skull Crack? Yeah it's where you capture Skull Crack (hence the extra elite on my skill bar )

Fr3sH

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Doers of Evil

Mo/Me

Darn what about the the other three statues at toa =/

eohjay

eohjay

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Youngstown, Ohio

Tyrian Explorers' League

N/

After the new story update it looks to me as if the entrance will be from either Tasca's Demise or Mineral Springs.

Quote:
"Guess he went after that Tasca fella." With this the Dwarf smiled wide at Cynn, revealing a mouth half-full of broken teeth. "Probably went out to Grenth's Footprint and down into Sorrow's Furnace." It also says that Tasca was last seen in Tasca's Demise, which makes sense, so if Whitman was trying to follow him he had to of passed through Tasca's Demise.

Atleast, that's what I get. Maybe the entrace will be in Tasca's Demise and it'll also connect to the Grenth area in Lornar's, thus bridging Beacon's and Granite Citadel and creating a whole new 15k armor rushing craze. Or maybe the entrance will be on the east side . Or maybe I'm totally wrong.

Grigori Sokolov

Grigori Sokolov

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Im really excited about this update, but I also really hope there will be an outpost nearby, since if it is off tasca's demise: thats a good 2 hours fighting north of camp rankor, so you would have to have a group with all day to spend in order to get there -.- also, it would be nice if they made it so non-ascended or players that didnt beat hells precipice(sp?) can enter.

I cant wait!

Kishin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The Twilight Vanguard [TTV]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by eohjay
After the new story update it looks to me as if the entrance will be from either Tasca's Demise or Mineral Springs.



It also says that Tasca was last seen in Tasca's Demise, which makes sense, so if Whitman was trying to follow him he had to of passed through Tasca's Demise.

Atleast, that's what I get. Maybe the entrace will be in Tasca's Demise and it'll also connect to the Grenth area in Lornar's, thus bridging Beacon's and Granite Citadel and creating a whole new 15k armor rushing craze. Or maybe the entrance will be on the east side . Or maybe I'm totally wrong. Except Whitman apparently screwed up, walked out the wrong gate at Droknar's, and got killed in Whitman's Folly. Amusing.

eohjay

eohjay

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Youngstown, Ohio

Tyrian Explorers' League

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kishin
Except Whitman apparently screwed up, walked out the wrong gate at Droknar's, and got killed in Whitman's Folly. Amusing.
Actually...

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... there were parts of the snowy mountains that bore their names—places where each was rumored to have either died or come as close as one can to passing into the Mists while still making it back to this life. That there means that Whitman didn't necessarily die in Whitman's Folly. He could have just been near death, and made it back to Droknar's Forge. Heck, maybe his Folly was going out the wrong gate.

edit:

And while I'm on the subject, I may as well share this with you. I was adventuring around Tasca's Demise earlier clearing out the area and searching for stuff that could deal with the new areas, and took a few screenshots.

The first, and least impressive, is this gate. It remains closed, and cannot be opened. The further side of it is unmappable, which could mean that it may lead to a new area. If any, my guess would be Grenth's footprint.



The second of which is this cave...
Normally I pay no attention to caves, but look at this. There are sign posts in front of it, and it's all chained off. Perhaps the entrance to Sorrow's Furnace?



Now keep in mind that both of these pictures look much more impressive and intriguing when you're actually looking at them, and not a shrunken screenshot. If the entrances are in Tasca's Demise, I wouldn't be surprised if those were them.

If you'd care to check out those places in game, here's the route I was taking, both of the spots are near the end of the route.

Xanatos786

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Orb

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr3sH
Darn what about the the other three statues at toa =/ Keep in mind this is only the first, and free, update. They are probably saving the ToA avatars for the expansions you have to pay for, starting in 2006.

Jion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

eohjay, i thought about that place in tasca's demise, but the area that is still unexplored seems a bit small ... its smack dabe in the center of these explorable areas - we'll soon see though =)

razuleclone

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Avari Gwaith

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jion
eohjay, i thought about that place in tasca's demise, but the area that is still unexplored seems a bit small ... its smack dabe in the center of these explorable areas - we'll soon see though =) if they do it like uw or fow and use zones under the map it could work.

m1970c

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

UK, Cheltenham

Martins Merry Men

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Anyone know when this will be released ???

And does anyone know anymore of the NEW addon comeing laterz this year??

razuleclone

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Avari Gwaith

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by m1970c
Anyone know when this will be released ???

And does anyone know anymore of the NEW addon comeing laterz this year?? probably no new addons coming this year, but expansion next year. no one knows an official date for the release but we can only hope its soon. go stand in LA by the frog in hopes of more clues.