My character is FINALLY complete mwaha!

Nice char, i love the bow, and such blah blah

But why black on your armor silver kicks its ass

Their right and i doubt jealously has anythig to do with it. Yay! 3-4 more dmg 10% of the time from sundering! Yay! 30 more health!. It has been proven somewhere using the calculations guild wars uses for damage that the 5+ armor is better than 30+ health. To add to the joke 5+ armor sells for under 1k. Vamperic is nice but overrated. The 5+dmg is nice but the -1 health regen actually really hurts. From experience I found that I either came even in health or lost a bit because of the vamperic. The only bonus was the extra damage.

I think that a +5 armor and poisoners is the best combo and is one of the cheapest too lol.

Didn't know the armor didn't stack, pretty nice info. I guess. Could always switch to that or something down the road.

Meh, guess it's just kind of rough when you work hard for something online and then people come on and laugh at what you have... *sigh*

Ignore them, play however you want. They'll think what they want to think.

Congratulations on completing your character the way YOU want it and not they way the Guru community thinks you should have it. High five for you.

And I don't use any bow strings besides Sundering or Poisoners. Just because it isn't the "best" does not mean it isn't good.

I'd much rather have the +HP than the +Armor. How many times have we all fallen victim to Armor Pentrating, Armor Ignoring, or Degan spells?

Dont worry i would get stuff like that just to show off at people lol. Even though poisoners flat bow of shelter is better people start slobbering when they see sundering, fortitude and storm bow in the same sentence.

I'll be the first to say it then. Nice char, it can kick my chars ass anytime.

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In all honestly 691.. that's kind of what I did lol.

Oh wells... I can see how the 10/10 string could be kind of worthless (calc. only had it do an extra 3 damage when it does work lol). So you think 3 damage in 20 seconds (2 secs to refire, figure 10 shots, 1 works, etc.) vs. the extra 16 damage or something from lengthened poison. HOWEVER; if you're using barrage I'd have to think sundering is the best. Vampiric just seems kind of worthless. That constant -1 is a thorn in your boot.

<THEORY OF WHY ARMOR vs. HP MOD>

Then theres the armor vs. HP. On the calculator I set my armor to 70, and the base damage to 20 with 0 penetration. So with 70 armor it does 16.82 and on 75 it does 15.41. So with the HP mod it'd take 28 hits to kill you, with the armor mod it'd take 29 hits to kill you. So it's a difference but minute. However; this equation differs if you were to be healed for max health. If you lost 100 health and are fully healed by a monk, you'd be healed for 100 with the HP mod, and 70 with the armor mod. At this point it'd take 5.94 hits to widdle down the 100, whereas it'd take 4.54 to widdle down the 70 HP including armor that you had.

This holds true with higher damage ratings, notwithstanding armor penetration. I also tested this with +7 mods. SO, I would say that armor and HP mods are situation dependent. If you have healing abilities or monks that can heal towards your MAX health, HP mods are better. If you have no monks, can't use healing abilities (such as your mirror) then you'd want armor mods.

Therefore, I really can't say that HP is better than armor. The only major difference is price obviously. But I'd say it is totally dependent on the character. In addition, when you start using more and more runes, HP mods will help you tremendously compared to armor mods, as hits will not work on a decimal basis, but simply 1-2 to finish off. For example, 3 hits will finish off someone with +7 armor, but it will take 4 to finish off someone with the HP mod. As a percentage basis, +7 armor accounts for 10% of total armor, whereas HP accounts for roughly 6.25%. However, if you begin using monks and superior runes, that percentage is reduced.

FINALLY, as a closing test, using Dryders defense adding +59 elemental defense cuts 59% of the damage. I believe the max elemental armor mod you can have is +4. +4 is roughly 6.7% of 59, and 6.7% is 0.871 prevention, or roughly 1. If you took 21 damage it would take 25 hits to kill you, which is only 22 or so life saved from the armor mod.


THROUGH my tests and observations, in some scenarios both upgrades seem beneficial, but it is clear to me that armor is not better than HP, and in some instances, worse (where runes and monks are almost essential in any team; as rangers ARE definfately support characters that make use of both elements).

Wow, that was long.

Actually, the debate is a stalemate as it differs with each situation you are in. In some instances, having the +5 armor is better, in others, +30 health. So really, it is just your opinion. Kinda tired of heaing people say, "there are facts that prove X is better than Y", when in reality, all the facts say different circumstances call for different mods.

The same goes for the 10% sundering. With penetrating shot and certain other skills, it is a noticeable difference in damage.

Nice char and grats.

My Chinese farmer friend could get you some bows alot nicer than that...

I mean, the bow is only 13%+ and the other one is only 14%+. Any PvP character using the "above 50% health" mod will have 20%+. Atleast get the best damage.

Your chinese farmer friend eh? Well I have 5 from Korea and they game till they die from starvation so there.

In addition, all 20% mods are below 15%, so great call there genius.

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I'm not sure you understand the game very well.

All Greater then 50% health mods, have a MAX damage % of 15. All BELOW 50% health mods have a max damage % of 20.

So I don't understand where you'd get a 20%>50% of HP damage mod. If you can do that, than you truly have the best equipment in the game, which means you're a developer for anet, or simply hacked it lol. THE max a bow or any weapon can have for the above 50% of HP mod is 15. So 13 is pretty good. Couple that with a coveted storm bow, and a req. of 9, and you've got something pretty damn rare.

Your Chinese friend may find a lot of godly items, but that'd still be a toughy to find. And my korean friends play for like 49 hours a day because they live on Mars so there.

Yeah, you're right. I always wondered what the use of having a below 50% health mod was when you could have one that's above.

Want to buy a 5/1 max vampiric hammer with 20%<50% health mod? :X

Anyway, yah I wouldn't call that character "complete" exactly, but it's better than my main one

Congrats on the stuff ^^

Now im no fashion designer but you need to put some more clothes on...

And im pretty sure this would fit much better in the screenshot forum...

It's a nice character ZeRo4U...

but why the glorified posting and effort to display her here?

There are several different character builds and graphic asthetics that are very good on many lvl 20 players, and I'm sure there are many members on this community who have developed their characters with 15k armour sets, gold max dmg weapons, elite skills and adornments & dyes, but none of them have the urge to post a dedicated thread for their character saying (in effect) "Gosh! Wow! Look at my Godly character! He/She is 1337!!"

Jee I dunno, after logging around 100 hours playing that character, the fact that she's finally 'done' according to me is kind of neat. Not EVERYONE (or even close) has the final weapons they want, the runes they need, their armor and colorings. Excuse me for being proud of my character.

Pretty sure I didn't say anything about, "this character kicks all your butts, nobody can get good items like mine, my build is better then everyone elses."

Maybe I did it for some feedback, and obviously suggestions about the runes (which I asked seperately) and possible armor upgrades vs. health sure helped. You can stop trolling now. You know its kind of funny, all my friends and people on gamefaqs were like, 'congrats! thats hawt, nice, nice results for hard work, im almost there too!', last place I'd expect someone to make a comment like yours would be here.

Who's trolling?

I said it's a nice character, and you have every right to be proud of her....

But like I said, nobody here on these forums has gone to the point of making a thread dedicated to their character, displaying 2 gold bows, superior runes, black dye etc., and saying "My character is FINALLY complete! Mwahahahaha" - Like I said, it is EFFECTIVELY saying "Look at my 1337 character!"

ALSO, if you are asking for some feedback, you have a very subtle (almost non-existent) way of doing it. Let's see...the words "Finally", and "Just how I want it" are in your first post, "Comments please" or "Do you think I should..." are not. You flame the first couple of suggestions, and say things along the lines of "My weapons are quite godly, and I'd like to see YOUR equipment!" - Your intentions of proving to the world what a superior character you have to everyone else in the game is clear as spring water.

Now, I'll ask again.

Who's trolling?

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