The Invinci Monks - no fun anymore

Adding more enchantment removal is going to affect any enchantment-reliant build. Your Conjure R/Es and W/Es, your Attunement E/Xs, etc. Basically that would wind up further limiting the viability of certain builds in PvE, much in the same way Nature's Renewal has in PvP.

They better not as mine has gotten that far yet how do you tell if you have 105 or 55 build?

Being a griefer is a lot worse than being a snooty Monk.

105 life or 55 life

its still the same skills and tech

There should be ranger creeps in UW spaming nature's renewal. This would certainly stop UW soloing forever.

Or get rangers blacklisted from UW groups so that they'd be forced to group only with each other trapping, upset that a few of their group gave them all a bad name.

How does ruining GROUPS stop SOLOING, by the way?

would probly also stop anyone from going there too seeing as NR nearly decimates every build on this game.

heh, there are, Obsidian Behemoths are ranger mobs and love dropping traps and NR.

The problem is the skill Protective Bond.

That's the only thing which could and should be tweaked.

Not necessarily. Thanks to the brief window where everyone was able to buy Monk Superior runes for 100g, everyone's got a 105 build (or a start on one) now. In every single UW and FoW trip I've made these past couple of days (with my healing monk), the other monk turns out to be Ubermonking. And while I've got all my 5- and 10-point heals recharging, my fingers mashing the keyboard and watching a display of "That skill is recharging" vs. "You don't have enough energy," I've got 6 people shouting "where's the heals" and one nutcase saying "look at me, I'm unkillable!"

No, you don't have to advertise for the Leet Brigaders. You have to advertise for a specifically healing monk. Or you're not going to get one.

Oh how I wish I was a ranger secondary...

so true, so true.

The fartherst one of these monks can get is clearing the Icy Vale, Forgotten Vale and Labrynth without taking any quests except Clear the Chamber and Restore the Monuments of Grenth. If you take Unwanted Guests, you will die when attacking the (I forgot what its called) but its the thing that controls the Vengeful Ataxes. It has Lingering Curse and will strip you of enchantments. Taking Escort of souls will spaw the Mesmer phantasms that will degen you to death, and taking either quest from the other two reapers will result in death because you can't kill everything fast enough.

Never been past smites? Obsidian Behemoths use NR and traps.

I like to SOLO the UW. I do not like to anger helpless W/mo by joining their game and getting them all killed leaving me to farm for the low price of 125 gold (Or free ride -.-)

I like to be able to not count on a pug to explore becuase PUGS DO NOT EXPLORE UW OR FoW ---EVER---.

I like to be able to go to Snake's Dance and check out bosses and collectors I have never met before. I could never do this on my warrior, even with henchmen, becuase I'm not running a tank build.

I like to be able to explore places. Unlike you people I don't want to grind places and then leave and then grind them again just so you're group of 6 rangers can get 2 ecto and then leave. (IE, I've gotten 8 ecto from Aaxtes, 2 from Darknesses and 0 from Smites across ALL accounts)



I haven't had my UW solo monk for very long, but I can tell you it's one of the most fun things I've done in the game so far. It's alot better than finding a UW group on a warrior at any rate.

The point is that monks are by far, (not just by far, actually, by almost literally a gazillion times better) in PvE than any other class. They might not be able to solo every single monster ever in the game, but they sure as HELL can solo an insane amount more than any other class in the game, making almost anyone with a primary monk invincible...not to mention filthy stinkin' rich.

Monks should NOT be able to out do all the other classes who've worked just as hard for things and what not.

Yes they should. Healing always needs to be better than damage or else balance is wrecked and there's no point to playing a primary healing class.

Oh yeah I know what you mean!

Not only should monks be able to heal and protect themselves near infinately but they should also be able to do massive AoE damage while maintaining 4 enchantments and healing themselves all while tanking solo in the UW!

So monks SHOULD be able to do anything they want to in the game and play God of PvE when they feel like it, it's all clear to me now.

Please stop the hyperbole. In a balanced game, healing needs to trump damage. Just as enchantment removal needs to trump enchantment. What you and everyone else that complaining about so called these "invinci-monks" forgets is those same skills the monk uses in PVE are also used in PVP.

well, ive got a monk with 105hp i wanted to try it too becuase i had seen it on a movie, well, i cna tell you it isnt that easy as it looks! the ataaxes actually interrupt you with savage slash and sometimes they interrupt healing breeze and that totally messes it up, especially when ur bleeding or poisoned, aint as easy as it looks ppl...

cost me like 7k before i was even able to solo ''some'' then i bought a hp-50 item and i equipped mending what gives me a constant regen of +4 and they do -2 dmg per hit so when 2 monsters hit im hard 2kill then i also got blessed signet and healing breeze


the moral of this story is that it aint as easy as many ppl see, and there are only 2 kind of monsters in UW u actually cán solo...

Agreed, all they need to do is make it so lvl17 Protective Bond costs 2 en per hit and its fixed.

Why do we want UW soloing to stop anyway? They're not ruining your experience, nor are they driving up the prices of ectoplasms. If anything they're keeping the prices of ectoplasm down by constantly pouring them into the economy.