Max damage weapons that important?

I search on weapon damage but the results were daunting and did not look like what i wanted to know.

Just how important is it to have a max damage weapon? if your max damage is 1 point off from max that means a HUGE diffrent in price, but realy how big is it in terms of power? I have max weapons and the req. to use them fully, BUT! i NEVER once see that max number rise up fom the baddies, so many factors, level, armor, etc. that all makes a diffrence.

If a sword is 14-21 damage from what i read here this means the sword is a pile of crap, So 1 point makes it go from crap to kick ass? I am sure there are some ppl here who know the system better about how it adds up, i have wondered for a while now.

I use a shadow staff for my monk (looks only ) not a max damage and dont need it to be since i heal, i barely run into energy trouble so i am cool there. It was also a Divine Favor staff which suprised e to find as a shadow staff. the dual HP mods are not top end but high enough to make a huge diffrence. why all the fuss over max damage then?

Help me understand

im confused too.i bought a 14-26 storm bow for 2k,for only 2 less damage i saved around 10k

personally, I think that this goes with the Gold vs Anything Else argument. That extra 10k you pay for a Max damage weapon is... fluff. Yeah, just fluff.

IMHO, 1-2 points of damage isn't going to make that big a difference except to complete morons.

Same reason why a 1.00 kt D-flawless diamond costs twice as much as 0.98 kt.
All the married folks know what I'm talking about. All the unmarried folks will find out in the future (or maybe not...).

To other RPG games where it is just point and click, yes... that extra dmg actually does matter.

However, this game's main focus is what skill you are carrying... so we all know by now, it doesn't matter that much on the 1-2 points...

BUT, in a battle field every little advantage should not be overlook... but it should be obvious that some advantage come into calculation first, while some other less important advantage come after... but do not forget the less important advantage that you could have get.

So to apply these... pretty much just make a good build first then search for the weapon, etc.


But for things that is not even on the battlefield... (such as diamond ring) get the .98

I wish to point out that
it is painful to put any Good upgrades onto a non-max, imperfect weapon


consider u have many expensive good upgrades, 10/9 Furious, 10/9 sundering
will u put them into ur 13-20 sword ?

This pain make the price difference

when you have the choice, it's logic that you would prefer the max

nah, the price difference is there because of people's fixation on "must have the best!" .. it's a mind set that you have to get the best.. max damage..

Why do you think a clean Gold max damage butterfly sword will sell for a [b]*lot*[/] more gold than a clean White max damage butterfly sword? They have the exact same stats, but the Gold one will sell for more simply because it's name is Gold... and why? Because a whole lottsa ppl have a fixation that Gold > everything else and who cares about the stats on em!

Thats why you cxan sell gold weapons for more than purple.. and hardly sell blue.. and forget trying to sell white weapons. Heck, I guarantee if I offered to sell a clean white max damage weapon or a 1 off max damage gold weapon.. I'd have a whole lot easier time selling the gold weapon.. simply because it's gold.

It's just a mentality players have gotten.. and you look at most other games.. and this is where the problem lies - Guild Wars is about the skilsl you use and not about the equipment. You don't need max equipment... however, in other games the focus is on getting better equipment and less about what skills you use/have. This means people in those games are focused of finding the "best" equipment they can....

And then they play GW.. which doesn't do that... but their mind-set is still "must get best equipment!".. and usually "rare" stuff in a game > everything else... thus you have the fixation on Gold > purple > everything else .. as well as the fixation on max damage weapons.

It has nothing to do with upgrades or possibly loosing them (although that does play a part, but it's not the main focus for the general public playing).. it has to do with the fact that every other game out there focuses on getting better equipment.. and the fact you need better equipment if your going to make it. GW isn't like tham... but people will find it hard to break that mentality of needing "uber" gear...

and thats why Gold and/or max damage weapons sell for more than purple/blue and/or slightly off max damage weapons.

Weapons that aren't max base damage are crap on the secondary market. Why? Because max damage weapons are thrown away on a regular basis. There's barely a market for plain max damage weapons, so why should something even worse be tradable.

On the other hand, the difference between, say, a +10% damage while health is above 50% magic sword and a +15% damage while health is above damage sword is pretty miniscule.

Peace,
-CxE

The majority of the replies are what i was thinking as well. I think i will only need that 1 extra point maybe ONCE during the entire life that I play the game. So to save tens of thousands I will let that one time slide. As for high req. I would only buy that if I were going to have a high attribute anyway.

thanks all!

Later u will find that 10k, 20k is not really that much
I store up my upgrades until i find a +13/14% above 50 weapon

i prefer spend this more gold so that I no longer need to store any upgrades (except for sale purpose)

adding upgrade onto non-max, even if on those max but with no dmg bonus,
is totally a waste of good upgrades

a tips here:
i think +14% and +15% is totally no differece at all
so i always glad to pay far less amount for +14%

Yep, if you can afford a D color, Flawless inclusion rating stone, you might as well get the 1 kt stone.

My wife got a very nice stone that I paid $3,000 for. .75 kt, F color (which is still colorless), and SI1 inclusion rating, which is toward the upper end of good. She loves it. If you are thinking about getting married, PM me. I can teach you all about the "4 Cs"

I bought a white max damage hammer a while back for a silver and red dye. Everyone thought I was nuts, but all I had up to that point was an 11-17 hammer and so that white hammer made a huge difference to me in the game. Within two days, I had already picked up a new red and silver (and a purple and minor vigor rune to boot) with all the hunting I was able to do with that new hammer. White or not, it was damn well worth it.

-Pall

I have a white max damage Fellblade and a white max dmg hammer with good upgrades and can't sell them for 1k. It's pretty sad seeing that they do as much damage as a gold item.

Can somebody please please please tell me what all this 8/10, 9/10, 10/10, stuff is all about, i know its about perfect upgrades but what does that mean?

LOL - I was engaged for a while (we broke it off last year) - I got her a 1.5kt H color (near colorless - since she wanted it set in 18k yellow gold anyway) but a VS1 perfect cut - a steal at $9,000 (took me almost a year of research to find). I would have gone with a better, smaller stone - but this is what she preferred - Highest maintenance woman I've ever known. Still, what can you expect from an international flight attendant and former lingerie model? I'm glad it's over, but we're still friends. ... sorry I drifted off there....

.... oh yeah - I'd rather have the max Holy Rod than a non-max one.

its WAY to easy to get a max weapon for you not to have a max weapon

I'm not sure how to apply this to GW, but if I were to buy an engagement ring, I would buy a used one from someone selling, and salvage it for the stone.

Then have the jeweler craft a ring with your stone. Any jeweler will rip you off buying a new ring, so don't give them the chance.

Actually, the way to do it is to purchase an unmounted stone - then have someone mount it. Never buy a pre-made ring or (heaven forbid) go to a mall if you don't have to.

Still - if it's true love - the ring is only cosmetic. I haven't given up on romance.

BTW - I don't have the ring anymore. If I were to get engaged again I'd build one again from scratch.

Refers to the upgrade stats, for example:
A 9/10 Sundering would be a 10% chance at 9% amour penetration. The best Sundering you can get is a 10/10.

I have to admit that in the buying market, it is almost worthless having the perfect damage weapon. But with having 2 damage off and more, you start to notice the difference. it's miniscule, but it's there. It's the same point as with absorbtion runes. Why would you pay 90k for -3 damage and only 5k for -2 damage? because it's better. Why would you pay 10k for a perfect chaos axe, and only 2k for a 27 damage one? because it's better. You buy to compete basically. If your talking to somebody in a pug or something, and you show him your NEAR perfect weapon, he will basicaly laugh at you. If you try to pvp with a near perfect weapon, everybody else will have the upper hand on you. It doesn't matter if it's only 3 more damage per slash, what matters is that you arn't contributing to the team as well as you can be just because you were cheap. Because lots of people pvp in their pve chars, they will basically be run over and flattened by the pvp chars with the perfect mods, and perfect damage.
Seriously,It's confusing how people think.
"I just saved up all my money on a superior absorbtion rune! i am leet now!!'
"But why would i spend the money to get two more points of damage out of my weapon... that's just pointless.."

I agree with you on expensive weapons like storm bows, eternal shields, fellblades, crystalline swords, fiery dragon swords (these are noob anyway, even Rurik uses them).

On regular weapons that people don't pay premium for, such as forked swords, a 15-22 is way better than 14-20 so I disagree on all other occasions. Why?

okay 1 damage is not much to you. Then you use +33% attack speed like frenzy or berserker stance. That one damage quickly adds up, especially on swords and axes (not so much hammers and bows).

Not only that, but if the enemy has a ___ armor level, and that 1 damage is the only damage going through their defense, that one damage is all that counts.

As for collectors swords, staves, etc. if you put a prefix or suffix on it, you cannot salvage it out. That means if you want to make a very good sword, it better be on an existing gold or purple, not blue. People want the best, and the best items always are GOLD not blue. There are exceptions, like if you have a max damage blue item that you upgraded yourself. However, drop-wise, gold is superior 99% of the time.

Another reason why people like gold is that the item itself was worth something when it dropped. For example, I have a purple sword that has better stats than a similar one that dropped with gold color. However, that purple sword had only one mod, while the gold had two. Usually color is an indication of the effectiveness of the mods (unless they are charrslaying or some other crap).

Actually, it's the other way around, it's a 9% chance at 10% armor penentration.

Perhaps this thread should be titled "It isn't fair - Nobody offers me more than 7k for this terrific rare uber-sword with all the best mods - just because it has a req of 13."

the difference between 10% and 15% when dealing with numbers(for the most part) in the low teens - mid/high 20's is completely irrelevant. Especially when you consider that you can't do fractions of a point of damage. You're damage is going to be rounded to the whole number. the difference between 10% and 15% is about 1 dmg for a max staff/wand/rod, almost 1.5 points for a max bow, almost 1.5 points for a max sword....you see the point. You're getting less than a 2 dmg per hit bump for most weapons(except hammer which could net you 2.xx dmg per hit)....

I think it's the collector's items that make it this way. I wouldn't ever bother buying under a max damage weapon with a perfect mod.. because you can just get a collector item with those stats.

If you're going for 'fluff' and appearance.. that's fine.. it should at least be as good as a collector item. So in that case, it has to be max damage with a 15% mod to me.

That's the way I look at it anyway. Not paying for a weapon that is inferior to what a collector item gives me. So everything else is worth 0 gold to me.

And yah as far as a choice. Is it a huge gap in what perfect and non perfect give you in terms of damage? No, but in this game, you don't have to settle for less than perfect.. so why do it.

Come on everyone knows that the cast caster items all come from the collectors... All staffs 20/20.. it is hard to find better, and the only one I have seen was one my Friends monk has... It was max damage req8 healing 9/10 everything...

Back when I played Diablo II the method of using numbers with backslashes was very common. There were 3/20/20s, 100/20s, 15/8s, etc, etc. It was an easy way to identify all the mods on an item with just a couple characters.

In this game if you want to describe the sundering axe haft you have with 9% chance, you could say, "I have a 9 sundering axe haft" but that sounds corny and confusing. So people say, "I have a 9/10 sundering axe haft".

That's my take on it, anyway.