Ultimate newbie question: What is a signet "ring"?

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Why is it called a signet ring?

Lcount

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

cause I think it's supposed to be a ring you put on your finger (in game) probably.

I'm just guessin here, maybe all skills are meant to be like that and that's why you only get 8 skills at a time , cause it's one ring for each finger

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

I've often wondered why they call them rings too... the design is much too large to fit on a finger.

However, signet brass knuckles, that's another story

Serpreme

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

going with the ring around the finger thing.

ManadartheHealer

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasareth
...signet brass knuckles...
Wow I want some of those...

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/

Signet brass knuckle of Spikey Eye-poking... I like!

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

The seal is engraved on the ring, which is used on official documents, pressed into hot wax.

Because of the various definitions of seal (which can refer to both a design/emblem, or to seal something shut), I'm not really sure on the specifics of the process >.<

Edit: That is, I'd always imagined it was used to seal envelopes, but it could also be used simply as a mark on a document as a sign of authenticity, considering in those times just how difficult and expensive making such a seal would be.

In any case, it's called a signet ring because signets are generally rings. Apparently dates back at least as far as (Dan. 6:8-10, 12).

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

it's this device they sell that you put around your .... oh nm

Veripare

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, Ontario

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang
it's this device they sell that you put around your .... oh nm
LMAO!!

Warlawk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercury Angel
The seal is engraved on the ring, which is used on official documents, pressed into hot wax.

Because of the various definitions of seal (which can refer to both a design/emblem, or to seal something shut), I'm not really sure on the specifics of the process >.<

Edit: That is, I'd always imagined it was used to seal envelopes, but it could also be used simply as a mark on a document as a sign of authenticity, considering in those times just how difficult and expensive making such a seal would be.

In any case, it's called a signet ring because signets are generally rings. Apparently dates back at least as far as (Dan. 6:8-10, 12).
quite right. as for the confusion over "seal".... its an aquatic animal!

it was used for both purposes you outlined above. to show authenticity for an official doccument or something, they would simply drip wax at the bottom, where your signature would be. then press the ring into it. for messages not intended to be public, it would be used to seal the document/envelope shut so that it couldnt be opened without breaking the wax seal.

Vwoss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Leader of Communist Communist Revolution (CCR)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcount
cause I think it's supposed to be a ring you put on your finger (in game) probably.

I'm just guessin here, maybe all skills are meant to be like that and that's why you only get 8 skills at a time , cause it's one ring for each finger
Had the old birds removed, eh?

EDIT: Assuming that you can wear signet rings on your thumbs...

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

I think it goes back to the beta....skills were in rings.

Jczech

Jczech

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lcount
cause I think it's supposed to be a ring you put on your finger (in game) probably.

I'm just guessin here, maybe all skills are meant to be like that and that's why you only get 8 skills at a time , cause it's one ring for each finger
I remember somebody mentioning to me that they read something like that in the manual, so it's probably right.

So for those people who want more skill slots, hurry up and evolve!

cat1982

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Order of the Skull

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jczech
I remember somebody mentioning to me that they read something like that in the manual, so it's probably right.

So for those people who want more skill slots, hurry up and evolve!
tho evolving would mean less fingers and less toes....little fingers get smaller, little toes get smaller, as we evolve they become unnecessary and thus dropped from the design...so in the next big expansion will we only have 6 skills :O:O

:P

C
Xxx

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mkay... So they are actually rings.

Alright, maybe they should have a trader in town upgrading your rings to stainless steel, gold, silver, and platinum

Those would be some rust-immune rings!

Experiment_Jon

Experiment_Jon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Band Geeks

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warlawk
quite right. as for the confusion over "seal".... its an aquatic animal!

it was used for both purposes you outlined above. to show authenticity for an official doccument or something, they would simply drip wax at the bottom, where your signature would be. then press the ring into it. for messages not intended to be public, it would be used to seal the document/envelope shut so that it couldnt be opened without breaking the wax seal.
Yup, generally used to make sure that the little slave-message-runners didn't read the official documents. (But not like they knew how to read anyway.)

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

Yeah, it does go back to the beta.

Let me explain in full:

Back in beta, you found skills in the form of charms, as item drops. You couldn't apply them to yourself unless you merged it with a skill ring, which were specific to the classes. Combining a skill ring and a skill charm let you permanently learn a skill, to put on and off your bar as you wish. There were also skill necklaces, which let you temporarily learn, and then consume a skill. I think it lasted like 3 days for an expert skill necklace.

...I think the reason they took it out is because it thusly made the game too much about grind and finding skills.

Diplo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

UK

N/W

It's because the rings are made out of baby swans.

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang
it's this device they sell that you put around your .... oh nm
You are Naughty,Naughty,Naughty!!

I LIKE IT!

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

You know when 4 elementalists and a monk get together and combine their rings with the power of

Earth
Air
Fire
Water and
Heart

they summon the awesome power of captain planet:

[blogs.warwick.ac.uk]

Bahahahahahahahahaha j/k

Back in the day, you bought or got a skill ring as loot and bought a skill charm and learned the skill into the signet ring. You know, because keeping skills in your head isn't as cool and rings give an excuse to show a skill bar (pictures of your rings?). ANet weren't into thumb rings so that's why we don't get 10 skills at a time. Anything which you can partly develop by counting on your fingers FTW

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

well... back during the beta there were Rings and Pendants. Rings allowed skills to be permanent, Pendants allowed you to use just about any skill temporarily. (24 hrs) Those concepts are not completely lost, but the blank rings and pendants are only in the alpha build right now. The Signet Rings are preassigned rings is all. not customizable.

I think the main reason it was dropped was cause it allowed skills from classes you are not a part of to be mixed on a character build. Imagine a Elementist Necro with Monk skills... Thats what was happening... All anyone had to do was get a monk friend to drap a skill to a pendant or ring and then give it back to the other person. then that skill was essentually Dupped... and given to another player.

I used it with my buddy so he could get a pet with my charm animal skill (he was a warrior / monk)... It worked fine, but I could see abuse posibilities... and understand why they opted to pull it out of release.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cat1982
tho evolving would mean less fingers and less toes....little fingers get smaller, little toes get smaller, as we evolve they become unnecessary and thus dropped from the design...so in the next big expansion will we only have 6 skills :O:O

:P

C
Xxx
Not necessarily, natural selection would favor those with more fingers/skills, so the trend would shift in that direction. People with missing fingers would be killed off before they bred.

daedalus256

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hilarity Ensues

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Shaker
I think it goes back to the beta....skills were in rings.
Hmm, this might make for interesting expansions. As I recall, Anet said they might include new races into new chapters. The new races could have a different number of skills on their skill bar.

HOMIE_G64

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Recruit Meh!

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Shaker
I think it goes back to the beta....skills were in rings.

WOW! I never knew that and i played in the beta!

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Shaker
I think it goes back to the beta....skills were in rings.
so... if my character had more fingers my skillbar would be bigger, right?

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

Captain planet,
He's our hero,
Gonna take polution down to zero
Captain Planet,
da da-da da,
something something.

Yes I know it's off topic :^P

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

Holy cow, Captain Planet had a MULLET?!

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asplode
Holy cow, Captain Planet had a MULLET?!
w00t someone besides me remembers CP

Squizzard45

Squizzard45

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

CA

[Cb]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinitys Creature
Captain planet,
He's our hero,
Gonna take polution down to zero
Captain Planet,
da da-da da,
something something.

Yes I know it's off topic :^P

http://www.turner.com/planet/static/credit-song.html

Oh man Oh man, do I ever miss that show