No one runs Iron Mines anymore....

amen brother. some people just do not get it and try to define other peoples fun.

it was not fun for me to have to do 30 infusion runs but it would have been 10000 times worse had i had to fight the mission 30 times in a row.

to me that is not fun at all.

get a grip people this is a game and people will have fun their own way. enough said on this subject

Running is definitely the FASTEST way to do infusion run, and if you have 2 competent warriors, you will make it. And it's not like warriors are too far and few between. But fighting, to me at least, IS much more fun than running.

Um, I tried to do this mission 2x last night. Both times we got a party together "for the mission and infusion". I was a healing monk and I had some SOC so I could cap some skills on the way. Both times without warning the entire party just friggin took off running. There was no discussion before hand it would be a run. Pissed me off as I wanted to fight and cap skills etc.

Anywhoo, the first group of runners died before reaching the infusion point--all except for the other monk who sat there desperately trying to kill the Dolyak monk boss by himself. It was pretty funny. He tried everything - he led it to the siege engines to get blasted. He led to a bunch of trolls that attacked it. For 15 minutes he tried to kill it but just couldn't do it.

Next group I played with ran also. Grrr. At least this trip, during the run, I came across a Warrior boss that was fighting some other mobs and losing. I hung out just out of aggro range til the boss died and then capped Dwarven Battle Stance from him. This group made it to the infusion point and we got infused and I thought at least we can finish the mission and I can come back for Mark of Protection.

But....no...as soon as we infused, 5 of the players dropped and what was left was me the healing monk. My one offensive spell was Signet of Judgement I just capped. Then there was Alesia the healing henchman. And then an E/N. And a WHOLE lot of mobs between us and the end of the mission since we ran past them all.

We actually killed off all of the azure shadows outside the infusion cave and a bunch of trolls also. We then ran past a bunch of crap. Alas poor Alesia served as a decoy for us.

We continued to run and fight all the way to Marcus where we just got butchered. I was surprised how well we did with just 2 of us, and me without any prot spells.

But back to the OT: from my point of view everyone is running the mission and no one is fighting!

So what I can make out is that most people liked it better when you had to run 5 times, you guys are right I used to enjoyed it too. What do you think, shall we petition Anet to get it reinstated to 5 infusen runs?

Ugh, NO.

I always fight to Grotto, and take like 2-3 skill cap sigs with me as I go to the Mineral Springs. Kill two birds with one stone. And for the newbies (not "n00bs") that don't know what infusion is... you'll find out at Thunderhead, or, if you're really lucky, when you land on Perdition Rock.

Since you get all parts infused there is no reason to do "infusion runs" - just do the whole mission and get infused on the way. *sigh*

If the group decides to run ot fight to the infusion point is a matter of choise perhaps but I really dont see any reason to drop after infusion.

It's easy enough just remove all movement enhancing skills and that will stop the running.

was yesterday there. no problem whatsoever findng a RUNNING group.,

if there wasn't supposed to be running, then there probably wouldnt be running skills, you people whine a gripe because people dont play exactly like you do, just get over it and play the game.

Yes you are being rude. I played in 1 beta at a friends house (the last one). I have beat this game with over 6 characters with everything unlocked on 2 accounts and 4 skills left to buy to have unlocked everything on every character (and they are worthless ones like rust). I am prolly one of the richest players in the game and I broke the 1 milion gold mark within 24 total hours of playing the game (15 to beat it and 9 playign the economy). I have a PvP rank of 9 on one account and 4 on the other so I have pretty much figuired out this game in the PvP sense and I understand the mechanics as well as most anyone. According to you I started at a disadvantage yet by most any standard I have reached the pinnical of this game.

The Beta testers arn't the e-bayers its the new players who do that because they can't seem to make gold for any number of reasons.

I have mastered the game economy better than most anyone without any explits. It is quite simple really.

Don't you realize that you would be more disadvantaged without web sites like this. Without this website the UW solo build wouldn't of coem out and I would still be having fun soloing stuff while the rest of the team stands around like idiots.

So in conclusion stop being rude and think before you speak. You are sounding like an ingorant asshat.

(God now I'm sounding like blackace)

P.S ANet has said that Forge runs arn't an exploit and are allowed. And that is one of the best places to kill stuff in. (No damm mursatt, unnerfed, and fun). And running is fine. Hell I ran the entire game so that I beat it at level 3. But similary I have played the whoel game unlocking the whole map and doing every quest and every bonus and every single thing.

I just experienced this mission again. I'll explain my story.

"LOOKING FOR MISSION RUNNING ONLY!!!"
I get the invite from a team.
*team* "We're running right?"
*reply* "Yep."

So finally we're sitting around for a while and I say, grab a couple henchies which they do. Then we start the mission.

Round the first bend, looking fine... I head the normal way that you run to go through the mission. And they start pointing me another way. I'm like, "uhh?" and they go, "THIS WAY!!!" and click the map furiously... so I'm like "whatever..." and go that way. I keep running and they all stop and go FIGHT!! Of course they're getting their asses kicked and I'm like, "WE WERE RUNNING, thats what you said!"

Of course they had pointed me in the direction with all the mursaats and jades so I died for the first time on that mission. They then call me a n00b and one guy proceeds to tell me that he's been around since beta and is in a top 300 guild (top 300? so...)... I'm sure LOTS of people are in the top 300 guilds that can't follow their own directions lol. Either way I quit the mission and joined a new group.

Solo ran the mission by myself and my new team was like, "wow... just wow..." and won in 10 minutes. Messaged the person I did it with and I said, "done... have fun playing that mission for another 2 hours." I was replied with, "stfu n00b."

SERIOUSLY, all you miss is the bonus by running. And 1000 xp for 1 1/2 hours worth? Waste of time. I know some people like to get ALL the bonuses and ALL the armors or whatever.. but can we say, *cough* social life? Jesus. Oh well... Ironic that someone since beta calls me a n00b when its the other way around lol.

Actually the bonus is easier if you run. You run to infusion, but go around the fort and kill everything up to the bonus guy. (It will be alot easier since everyone is infused now) Talk to the bonus guy, and since you just cleared his exit the bonus is just following him. You might need to do this anyway if Markis isn't in the fort (which happens a lot)

While we're discussing infusion: Can I walk from Ice Caves of Sorrow to Iron Mines without encountering any Mursaat?

I had an experience with running today.

Decided to run, half way in the map, a w/mo sees the warrior boss in the middle of the frozen lake and starts to attack him while we all run past him. He asks for help, and obviously no one bothers.

He then whines, pouts and starts calling us n00bs. And leaves the game.

And what is the skill he so desperately wanted to cap? Nope its neither charge nor devastating hammer - its cleave. Go figure.

Take henches. That mission is extremely easy with henches.

DFrost: the area outside Iron Mines is absolutely crawling with Mursaat. Whole armies of them. If you're not infused I doubt you can get through.
Oh, and if you find a "lost strongbox" close to Iron Mines, you'll be wise to leave it alone.

Yeah, fighting with henchies is so much more fun, lol.

Tell me about it

Rich

Something stinks...like old thread. :P

I find fighting my way there far more enjoyable than running there.

Let the newbs believe what they want while us pros own HoH..

huhh? how is this related to iron mines?

If you browse back a page or two, when this thread was still alive, you'll find someone complaining about running. Just nod your head and walk away.

Surprisingly if you fight through the mission it doesnt take very long. Certainly not an hour and a half.

Ahh, back in the day, about 5 months ago.... hahaha. Just had to bust your barnacles there a little as the game hasn't been out long enough to have a 'back in the day' scenerio.

I do understand and totally relate to your frustration when the PUG isn't communicating well. I almost always do missions with henchies, guildies, or close friends. Sometimes I will go with a PUG, but usually somewhere along the lines there is a difference in what we all thought should happen. Even when we take a bunch of time to discuss 'this and that' before we head out, it seems we all have a different idea of what 'this and that' is all about.

By the way, the Seer appears in several missions, not just Iron Mines. You probably already know this, but I thought I would mention it anyway as some people who run through missions miss some of this stuff. Don't know you and how you play, so no offense intended. When I have a new piece of armour (usually a headpiece for a different build idea) I usually go to the Fire Islands. Even though you have to fight through some mops on your way, the whole place is a lot more fun and the drops rock a lot harder than Iron Mines.

Wow, this thread is still going!

Probably about time someone closed it.....