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I scimmed the post admittedly and missed yours. Good to see others agree.
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Petition to change 15k female druids!
Fantus
derrtyboy69
/anti-signed
if you dont like the armor, dont wear it. and its an armor that gives a kind of amazon look
this is the thing i hate about america: stupid uptight motherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOers like u guys that hate any form of badness. i support any voilence or nudity on TV, just not porno as that is too far. any reasonable should realize that beacuse u saw it on TV doesnt mean u can do it in real life
but besides that GO AMERICA (RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO bush tho)
if you dont like the armor, dont wear it. and its an armor that gives a kind of amazon look
this is the thing i hate about america: stupid uptight motherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOers like u guys that hate any form of badness. i support any voilence or nudity on TV, just not porno as that is too far. any reasonable should realize that beacuse u saw it on TV doesnt mean u can do it in real life
but besides that GO AMERICA (RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO bush tho)
Druids Arrow
As many others have said....
If you don't like the armor don't buy it. No-Body is forcing you to buy it. There are plenty of other armors you can buy. And some people actually quite like the Druids 15k Female Armor.
If you don't like the armor don't buy it. No-Body is forcing you to buy it. There are plenty of other armors you can buy. And some people actually quite like the Druids 15k Female Armor.
Kai Nui
I say we de-breast all female characters. The cleavage just allows people to think that way and they should have full-body undergarmets so people will be wearing pijamas instead of underwear. This is completely atrocious and disgustingly humiliating.
/signed
BTW: Isn't it opposite day?
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BTW: Isn't it opposite day?
Fanta
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Is this the Hillary Clinton in disguise thread?
Omgzorz females in the 15k armor are the hookers of GW. Bad influence on kids, ban, X-rated rating, this game is too rough. |
/anti-signed
David Lionmaster
lol, this thread has like 10 times more anti signs than signs.
/anti-sign
dont get it if you dont want, go with the regular druids armor that covers absolutly everything, including the neck.
plus i think 15k druids looks hot.
/anti-sign
dont get it if you dont want, go with the regular druids armor that covers absolutly everything, including the neck.
plus i think 15k druids looks hot.
ElderAtronach
Pffft, people have the right to wear skimpy clothing on their chars if the damn well please. Go to a beach sometime and try telling the girls there that their bikinis make them look like hookers or something.
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SlY_DeMoN
Anti Signed To The Max!!!!!!
Kashrlyyk
This is a link to the another forum and in the first post is a link to an interesting article: http://www.womengamers.com/forums/v...der=asc&start=0
Savio
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Originally Posted by Kai Nui
I say we de-breast all female characters. The cleavage just allows people to think that way and they should have full-body undergarmets so people will be wearing pijamas instead of underwear. This is completely atrocious and disgustingly humiliating.
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Kash, the link's not working properly.
Seissor
I have it for my ranger it looks gr00vie, also in dance comps my gr00vie armor scored me 2 major vigores (unidentified) dont like 15k dont buy, i have 1.5k and 15k, just so i can mix it up a little :-)
it looks like u have less armor on with 15k, but the stats are the same, think it looks indescent or is wrong?
HELLO, look at male n00b land armor for warrior and male gladiator armor..he's showing his chest and in a SKIRT 0_o
it looks like u have less armor on with 15k, but the stats are the same, think it looks indescent or is wrong?
HELLO, look at male n00b land armor for warrior and male gladiator armor..he's showing his chest and in a SKIRT 0_o
Kampfkeks
Haha, yeah i guess that figures.
I had a little arguement with a female friend of mine. She was angry all the way that some women where wearing very tight clothes or even seethrough stuff and short skirts. The arguement began when i said that many males aren't wearing ANYTHING on their chest when it is summer and why that is NOT a problem.
Couldn't give me a single argument why, but gave me hell for daring to oppose her opinion. I guess thats just ... female Oo
Geez, that is ONE armor out of how many? Enough in any case. Don't like it? Don't use it. It is as simple as that. Use the normal 1.5 k druids. You don't need the 15 k version. And stop acting all schizo about few to little clothing. You get offended by that? Oh seriously, never open your window and look out. You might get a heart attack. Seeing how some women in RL are dressing the models in Guildwars are actually OVERdressed.
I had a little arguement with a female friend of mine. She was angry all the way that some women where wearing very tight clothes or even seethrough stuff and short skirts. The arguement began when i said that many males aren't wearing ANYTHING on their chest when it is summer and why that is NOT a problem.
Couldn't give me a single argument why, but gave me hell for daring to oppose her opinion. I guess thats just ... female Oo
Geez, that is ONE armor out of how many? Enough in any case. Don't like it? Don't use it. It is as simple as that. Use the normal 1.5 k druids. You don't need the 15 k version. And stop acting all schizo about few to little clothing. You get offended by that? Oh seriously, never open your window and look out. You might get a heart attack. Seeing how some women in RL are dressing the models in Guildwars are actually OVERdressed.
Slade xTekno
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I say we de-breast all female characters. The cleavage just allows people to think that way and they should have full-body undergarmets so people will be wearing pijamas instead of underwear. This is completely atrocious and disgustingly humiliating.
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Numa Pompilius
<scratches head>
Well, I don't know. My choice would be that there should simply be more types of armor, but it is a bit silly that the female armors become skimpier the more they cost, while it's the opposite for the males.
Well, I don't know. My choice would be that there should simply be more types of armor, but it is a bit silly that the female armors become skimpier the more they cost, while it's the opposite for the males.
chaos dragoon
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If you don´t want to sign it, don not post at all!
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and i saw no reasons why you dont like it in the first post.
one thing i can think of is make 2 different sets of druids armor so people could chose what they want.but then other classes would complain that they dont have more choices. meh
Violent Princess
Also /anti signed, if you don't like it, pls feel free to buy me it.
AtomicMew
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If YOU were born is the jungle (very hot and humid at times) would you honestly wear a 5 piece dress with a corset and knee high boots..? no lol you would wear something that enables you be be extremely mobile and comfortable. I think this expresses immense realism on Anet's part. Congradulate them on it. Don't be a troll....
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Also, the fact that you have a choice whether or not to wear the armor is one of the silliest arguments I've seen in a while. And it saddens me that so many people have jumped on this band-waggon train of thought. ANet may have an incredible pool of talent, but I think they are making a large mistake taking (and having taken) the game in this direction. Believe it or not, it's possible to make a quality game without falling back on lude, "contentless content."
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Theos
The druids armour is unrealistic "to the max". The glads armour is in a way far more realistic and allowable, look at roman armour in their Gladiator Arenas, not much difference, though the Gladiators are far less perfectly modeled .
The tatooes are also a different story, they are rune markings, they are energy symbols they are in a unreal way realistic. You draw power from the runes, which happen to cover your body and perhaps need to be in the open to emit their "aura". The druids 15k has no such need/effect, it infact seems to offer NO protection or bonus.
If you compare armours based on nudity take into mind the efefcts of the armours and how realistic they are in the unreal world of GW. The only other armour that may bring question would be the Female glads, as there were no female glads. But since that is true the female glad can be much the same as the male glad.
The simple fact is that some female armours were made to attract or fascinate the preteens, those who defend it are mostlikely preteens themselves or people simply fascinated at looking at a semi-nude toon. Some armour on the other hand were very realistically made, such as knights or platemail. If you ask me the Druids armour 15k set all look wierd, the male looks like some guy with grenades in his overcoat and ready to go into fullscaled war, and the female looks like she came out of the bath in her underwear.
. The tatooes are also a different story, they are rune markings, they are energy symbols they are in a unreal way realistic. You draw power from the runes, which happen to cover your body and perhaps need to be in the open to emit their "aura". The druids 15k has no such need/effect, it infact seems to offer NO protection or bonus.
If you compare armours based on nudity take into mind the efefcts of the armours and how realistic they are in the unreal world of GW. The only other armour that may bring question would be the Female glads, as there were no female glads. But since that is true the female glad can be much the same as the male glad.
The simple fact is that some female armours were made to attract or fascinate the preteens, those who defend it are mostlikely preteens themselves or people simply fascinated at looking at a semi-nude toon. Some armour on the other hand were very realistically made, such as knights or platemail. If you ask me the Druids armour 15k set all look wierd, the male looks like some guy with grenades in his overcoat and ready to go into fullscaled war, and the female looks like she came out of the bath in her underwear.
Seissor
This is a fantasy game, go look at fantasy art. It's not about practicality but about art, warriors with swords bigger than they could possibly wield and the like etc etc, fantasy unlike sci fi doesnt have to explain or rationalise anything its fantasy, its magic, there is no explanation.
Complaining that female 15k druid is too nudey is dumb, look at monk and necro female tattoo's they are basically wearing loin cloths, the 15k druid female armor covers more than the tattoos. Saying its to appeal to preteen boys is sorta a strange arguement, what about the male warrior armor like glads, he reveals his chest and wears a skirt....so preteen boys also want to see this?? 0_o
Get over it, get on with life. If I had a dime for every time someone screamed out bloody murder and moral decay I would be on rich biznitch.
Complaining that female 15k druid is too nudey is dumb, look at monk and necro female tattoo's they are basically wearing loin cloths, the 15k druid female armor covers more than the tattoos. Saying its to appeal to preteen boys is sorta a strange arguement, what about the male warrior armor like glads, he reveals his chest and wears a skirt....so preteen boys also want to see this?? 0_o
Get over it, get on with life. If I had a dime for every time someone screamed out bloody murder and moral decay I would be on rich biznitch.
maxpower
i just wanna be able to use a 15k drakescale skin on my 15k druids (or in general being able to use different skins for armors.. hey another gold sink)
being to limited to basically 1 set of armor is just sad
being to limited to basically 1 set of armor is just sad
Fantus
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rofl, realism. You mean how both male and female body physique are completely unrealistic?
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Don't try to rationalize the fact that the armor was designed with the sole purpose of elliciting a sexual response from male preteens.
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ANet may have an incredible pool of talent, but I think they are making a large mistake taking (and having taken) the game in this direction.
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Seissor
Teen A: Oh man, that queen looks hot.
Teen B: how about the black queen?
Teen A: oh yeah, im down with the jungle fever ;-)
Teen B: how about the black queen?
Teen A: oh yeah, im down with the jungle fever ;-)
Sleet
Rotfl. Get a life ppl. Maybe you should go to the beach or go outside ?Or maybe u have complex ? Or maybe your mom didnt give you permission to use that armor ? Ah my oh my how sad.
Ultimate_Gaara
"I would love to go out side"... thats what I would have said if I wanted to catch a cold
some people just plain freak me out...
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some people just plain freak me out...
Kampfkeks
It is just downright funny to get called preteen and stuff like that just because i seriously don't understand the problem about that. Sleet is right, just leave the building and you'll see a lot... a LOT more of even shorter dresses.
You're probably bowing your head so you don't have to see them?
Sad way to discuss folks... really sad. Calling names just proves you got no real point to make. Tell me... if this armor is oh so offensive to the female players. Tell me why my girlfriend is wearing the 15 k Aeromancer on her female Elementalist and actually does like it a lot? You know, after all you could say that armor is just as bad as the druids as it increases the breast size. Ooops, guess just by mentioning that i offended some persons Oo
So all the female characters are upstyled fashion characters. Just look at them. Perfect body, everything at the right places... beautiful faces with ravenlong hair... is that sexistic too then? You really think so? Have a look at the males then. With all their muscles, good looks and awesome expressions. Those are just "beauties" too. At least my girlfriend says so.
Seriously, you need to wake up. Well maybe it is a problem about location and education but over here in europe, especially in places like the Netherlands, Austria, germany and france. The females are absolutely liberated about their body. They know that it is natural and they know that every body (word divided on purpose) is beautiful.
It doesn't offend them to see another female person running around semi naked. Instead they feel jealous and might try the same next time. They like dressing up all sexy and it is totally natural to do. And thats not a problem about religion as my best friend is a downright honest christian and visiting church every weekend. Yet still she is dressing sexy all the week.
Thats probably not a problem about digital content, it is a problem about emancipation and education. Not even religion.
You're probably bowing your head so you don't have to see them?
Sad way to discuss folks... really sad. Calling names just proves you got no real point to make. Tell me... if this armor is oh so offensive to the female players. Tell me why my girlfriend is wearing the 15 k Aeromancer on her female Elementalist and actually does like it a lot? You know, after all you could say that armor is just as bad as the druids as it increases the breast size. Ooops, guess just by mentioning that i offended some persons Oo
So all the female characters are upstyled fashion characters. Just look at them. Perfect body, everything at the right places... beautiful faces with ravenlong hair... is that sexistic too then? You really think so? Have a look at the males then. With all their muscles, good looks and awesome expressions. Those are just "beauties" too. At least my girlfriend says so.
Seriously, you need to wake up. Well maybe it is a problem about location and education but over here in europe, especially in places like the Netherlands, Austria, germany and france. The females are absolutely liberated about their body. They know that it is natural and they know that every body (word divided on purpose) is beautiful.
It doesn't offend them to see another female person running around semi naked. Instead they feel jealous and might try the same next time. They like dressing up all sexy and it is totally natural to do. And thats not a problem about religion as my best friend is a downright honest christian and visiting church every weekend. Yet still she is dressing sexy all the week.
Thats probably not a problem about digital content, it is a problem about emancipation and education. Not even religion.
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It's obvious why your girlfriend wears the 15k Aero armor (I assume its also an ex-po-say armor). It's because she wants to look sexy. And its fantasy, so why the hell not?
The problem, and this is one of the biggest reasons you preteens don't get it, is that dressing that way in real life is a very quick way to lose respect and credibility. It has nothing to do with the fact that looking at woman dressed sexily gives me a uncontrolable hard on, which in turn causes me great embarassment. As so many of you have pointed out.
The beach is an entirely different situation. It's a place where people are EXPECTED to dress a little skimpier, and thus, unlike in almost every other situation, its okay to go topless (for men) or reveal a little cleavage (for women). Or in the case of nude beaches, its okay to not wear anything at all.
Which brings me back to the point, which has been rehashed for quite some time. The armor serves no other purpose than to turn on male preteens.
Imagine for a moment that your mom is incredibly sexy. Do you think she would go to work, or go shopping in such an outfit? Even though (remember) she is incredibly sexy? If your answer is yes, you most likely have more problems than Michael Jackson. Now you might say that work/shopping != fantasy. Which is true. But this brings up the reason why the fact that you can simply choose not to wear it is moot. ANet spent an ton of effort into creating the armor which has only one purpose. By doing so, they've rallied to their base (male preteens) at the expense of their more mature audience. At the expense of those who understand that chatting it up with random strangers does not constitute social interaction. And at the expense of those who understand the importance of respect and credibility in the real world.
One last thing: some of you don't understand the difference between a game element being unrealistic, and something due to suspension of disbelief. It is a good thing to look up, even if you don't agree with me.
Krank
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I love my druids and gladiator (15k female both) its a cool design
Please re-enter the 50's kthxbye
I love my druids and gladiator (15k female both) its a cool design
Please re-enter the 50's kthxbye
Mavrik
correct me if I am wrong but I believe that a lot of those female warriors and rangers running around in gladiator and druid skimpy (delightfully beautiful) armor are played by real life girls as well. Now maybe you should hang out at a mall sometime... I'll be honest and say I see girls all the time dressed just as sexy in real life as in pixeled. Ok sure the bodies are not that perfect 10... so let me guess... next your going to be asking for weight change pertition to make characters fat so all the "preteens" will get a realistic grasp on life. Correct me again if I am wrong... but trying to get a realistic grasp on life from a video game is not only pointless... it can be very dangerious.
I'm from canada, born and raised, lived there for 27 years. Got married and moved. My wife spends a lot of non beach days during the summer dressed in shorts, tank/sports bra so really... not that much different from these rangers and druids. She's 27 also. Am I "preteen" cause I like that? Hey did you know its ok to be 18 and topless in Ontario if your a woman? Of course only in a proper setting... such as in any place that does not require shirts. Any place a man can go without a shirt, so can a woman... you'd be surprised at how many did... some who did... shouldn't have...
Have you watched those daytime talk shows? "My mom dresses like a hooker, please make her stop!" If not... watch one, open your eyes and realise its not just beach goers dressing in skimpy clothes...
Its you I think that needs a better grasp on reality.
I'm from canada, born and raised, lived there for 27 years. Got married and moved. My wife spends a lot of non beach days during the summer dressed in shorts, tank/sports bra so really... not that much different from these rangers and druids. She's 27 also. Am I "preteen" cause I like that? Hey did you know its ok to be 18 and topless in Ontario if your a woman? Of course only in a proper setting... such as in any place that does not require shirts. Any place a man can go without a shirt, so can a woman... you'd be surprised at how many did... some who did... shouldn't have...
Have you watched those daytime talk shows? "My mom dresses like a hooker, please make her stop!" If not... watch one, open your eyes and realise its not just beach goers dressing in skimpy clothes...
Its you I think that needs a better grasp on reality.
Goonter
/signed
Although I like the bikini top and bare feet, the shoulder pads and tube belt are kind of unattractive.
Although I like the bikini top and bare feet, the shoulder pads and tube belt are kind of unattractive.
heist23
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FTR, I wasn't calling anyone a preteen. But you people read what you want.
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The problem, and this is one of the biggest reasons you preteens don't get it,
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dressing that way in real life is a very quick way to lose respect and credibility.
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what women don't completely realize (though some might, i congratulate them for their open-mindness) is that men are aroused by SIGHT. women are aroused by talk and touch. that's the reason why they dress this way. that, and that some women (NOT all.) believe that this is a good way to attract other men.
sorry if i offended any female gamers here.
AtomicMew
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but trying to get a realistic grasp on life from a video game is not only pointless... it can be very dangerious.
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I also have no problem with NPC's looking "perfect" or better than normal, or whatever. After all, it is fantasy.
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Butadol
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The discussion of the issues of the female 15k druids "armor" can be found here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=32263
If you want ANet to change that, please sign this petition. If you don´t want to sign it, don not post at all! /signed |
Question........ghey?
/not signed
Eltargrim
...traversc...you really, really need to get a grip.
If you think the message is confined to females, take a look at pretty much every male character. "Oh, my character in GW is really muscular, so I should be really muscular too!" Sound stupid? That's because it is. A game isn't going to start making women dressing like game characters. Just like playing San Andreas isn't going to make you go on a shooting spree.
If you think the message is confined to females, take a look at pretty much every male character. "Oh, my character in GW is really muscular, so I should be really muscular too!" Sound stupid? That's because it is. A game isn't going to start making women dressing like game characters. Just like playing San Andreas isn't going to make you go on a shooting spree.
PieXags
How about a petition to actually update the goddam 15k tormentors set! At least the 15k druids is updated, I will agree though that it's a little ridiculous, but it's growing on me now that I've seen some cool dye combinations.
AtomicMew
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If you think the message is confined to females, take a look at pretty much every male character. "Oh, my character in GW is really muscular, so I should be really muscular too!"
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It's funny that those of you insulting me off the wall can't bring yourselves to make a decent argument.
Eltargrim
You're right, and I apoligize. I'm doing several things at once and misread your post. I really should double-check before I post. I hope you can accept my apoligies.
Mavrik
anyone got a non censored pic of druid ranger fissure armor?
Krank
Hey, just so you know,
fissure looks the same for all (druid,drakescale, ect) and it is not revealing
only one graphic for any fissure armor, NO FISSURE ARMOR LOOKS DIFFERENT(except class and gender-wise)
fissure looks the same for all (druid,drakescale, ect) and it is not revealing
only one graphic for any fissure armor, NO FISSURE ARMOR LOOKS DIFFERENT(except class and gender-wise)
Krank
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How about a petition to actually update the goddam 15k tormentors set! At least the 15k druids is updated, I will agree though that it's a little ridiculous, but it's growing on me now that I've seen some cool dye combinations.
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