Gwen and quests

MegaPsycho

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Im not sure if this ir right forum, so correct me if wrong.

Anyways:
1. What the hell is tapestry shred for? I dont know how I got it or what its for.
2. I believe ive done every pre searing non-class-specific sidequests...... any master list out there to be sure?
3. Do I get anything for giving all these flowers to Gwen? and the cape?

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Also, ive only been able to find 3 Necro trainers and 2 monk trainers in pre searing. Is that all?

MegaPsycho

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Now im really starting to disbelieve there are only 3 monk trainers in pre searing

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1. Whoops, sorry about double post
2. Whats this I hear about a mission north of ft ratnik in presearing? whats this mission about? Last time I did a pre-searing - post-searing transfer in a beta, all I did was fight some human players (and owned) and then I got thrown into post searing.....

Luggage

Luggage

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

sweden

Party with someone so you can open the gate in the wall and fight some Charr camping north of the wall.

The IOU

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Guild of Night

Mo/E

3 Necro trainers? Where is the 3rd?

I have only found 2. One in Catacombs and one in Green something...

Zorque

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

There is another in catacombs, gives you curses.

The IOU

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Iowa

Guild of Night

Mo/E

Yeah, been to her. Then she gives you candles mission? If that is the one you are talking about that is the one I mentioned I saw in the catacombs.

LeakingBlood

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canada, Toronto

Another nerco guy in the catacombs can be found deep inside. You will most likely run into him if you do the moa bird quest. Other than that the catacombs is a pretty cool place - linking Green Hills country and Ashford Abbey together.

Willowblades

Willowblades

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Seattle

if you do the (charr in the catacombs quest it will take you right to the last necro trainer. (get the quest from the prince up a couple flights of stairs in asclon)

Draven Mauler

Draven Mauler

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

ION

Mo/N

Ok. I know this may sound weird, but could somebody answer question #1 and let us know just what in the hell that stupid cape is really for. I want to throw it away and I am sick of shouting for help in every town I go to just to get no response. ....../sigh Gwen Blows...

spiritofcat

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sydney, Australia

Order of the Sanguine Dragon [OSD]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeakingBlood
Another nerco guy in the catacombs can be found deep inside. You will most likely run into him if you do the moa bird quest. Other than that the catacombs is a pretty cool place - linking Green Hills country and Ashford Abbey together.
The necromancer deep in the catacombs gives you the tooth from the charr that's been using the catacombs to move around.
Also, the catacombs link more places than just Green Hills and Ashford Abbey, I found a way out into Wizard's Folly too.

As to Question 1. I heard that the Tapestry Shred is used near the end of the game to access a secret Gnome Level. Somewhat akin to using Wirt's Leg in Diablo 2 to get to the Cow Level.

butcherboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gwen is useful in pre-searing - she is the closest thing to a henchman I could find. Once you hook her up with a flute she casts spells of healing, protection, etc on you during combat and seemingly randomly. She talks a lot and I find that she usually gives clues as to what the next thing she wants. Who knows, maybe there is a certain set of things that you can do to unlock a real quest. Also she has a tendency to talk about upcoming quests as well - including old mack.

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by butcherboy
Gwen is useful in pre-searing - she is the closest thing to a henchman I could find. Once you hook her up with a flute she casts spells of healing, protection, etc on you during combat and seemingly randomly. .
I have not noticed anything about her casting spells. She has the flute, does she also need the girlscape for it? I got that tapestry, so I did not bother buying the cape

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

As soon as she gets the flute she starts casting spells. I'm also pretty certain that if you don't periodically give her a flower, she turns on you and sets you on fire. This is what I assume from reading other threads concerning her.

As for the tapestray shred, I threw it out post-searing, thinking that I had a quest that got erased from the quest menu or the NPC forgot to take the shred. Oh well, I can always start over with a new character.

Draven Mauler

Draven Mauler

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

ION

Mo/N

So the bottom line...

Nobody really knows. I have read virtually every thread on every forum about the tapestry shred. The best answer is a post-searing quest or level. But even that is sketchy. Ohwell, I guess I can take up the slot in storage until I know for sure. I too have a gwen-henchy after three flowers and a flute. I will give the cape and more flowers just out of curiosity. I'll post the results soon.

Cordub

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The IOU
3 Necro trainers? Where is the 3rd?

I have only found 2. One in Catacombs and one in Green something...

The last one is really deep in the catacombs, its a long fight getting to her

Draven Mauler

Draven Mauler

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

ION

Mo/N

Ok this is to update what I have learned about Gwen since my post durring pre-searing. ______________________________. There I'm done.

Squat! Absolutely Squat! I held onto the shred from pre-searing ascalon until Draknors Forge and nothing. I'm now lvl20 with a shred still in my safe. But I have come to the conclusion that Gwens main purpose is to be a makeshift Healer Henchman. She doesnt do too bad either. She travels well and her music doesnt suck. Her healing... meh. In the end I doubt seriously that the guys at Anet have plans to make use of the tapestry shred other that to enrich the story line a little. As a ranger though when I went into several quests I had quite a group. 1 ranger, 1 pet, a second PC n00by and a Gwen. We never died but I cant say it was to Gwens credit alone.

As to the Tapestry Shred itself... I can only speculate. Maybe she will only begin healing you after she gives it to you. Sort of a way for the cpu to know she can...?

Silmor

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

You're level 20, and didn't even find the Girl's Cape? Spoken with her mother?

elsantos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

NC, USA

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Mauler
So the bottom line...

Nobody really knows. I have read virtually every thread on every forum about the tapestry shred. The best answer is a post-searing quest or level. But even that is sketchy. Ohwell, I guess I can take up the slot in storage until I know for sure. I too have a gwen-henchy after three flowers and a flute. I will give the cape and more flowers just out of curiosity. I'll post the results soon.
I do know that you find gwen's second flute in post in what is left of ashford village.
It, like the first one is broken. I am keeping the tapestry. Got a strong gut feeling it AND Gwen will have something important to do much later in the game. I find it very intreguing.

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

hmm maybe you should off held on to it...

Source: http://www.pixelrage.com/mesmerize/fansitefriday/46/

In another example, you may go on a quest where you are tasked with saving the lives of a group of NPC's. Later on, that group could reappear in order to assist you in another quest. The outcome of a dynamic quest system could mean that the number of lives that you saved earlier would be the precise number of "helpers" that you have on your team when you take part in the later quest.

so perhaps if you hold on to it in a later quest it could be usefull

Gangsta Licious

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The IOU
3 Necro trainers? Where is the 3rd?

I have only found 2. One in Catacombs and one in Green something...
Green Hills Country, and one in catacombs. I don't think there is a 3rd.

Magus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

there are 2 in the catacombs, Necromancer Munne and Oberan the Reviled. Just as mentioned earlier, Oberan is next to the area for the prized moa bird quest, past a huge hallway of candles.

kkl

kkl

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Fool of Fate (FOF)

E/R

and also monk got 3 too.. well.. 2+1... cuz bro meheaol (or however u spell his name..that dude outside of catacomb) give u twice i think .. he's really a bro man!
as for that tapestry... i got 4 in the bank (4 chars)... and the one i got after the patch doesn't stack ... arrr.. so it tooks up 2 space
and i throw that broken flute away.. hope that evil girl wont' bug me for it again and ask me to kill skale with lvl 30...
(...
Gwen:Ohhhh i dropped my flute again.. can u get it back to me?
me: NO! not again! go away...
Gwen: then i shall take u out *look at target status, lvl 80 gwen*
me: uh oh...
.....)

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

In post-sear I picked up 'Gwen's Broken Flute'.....I just finished the Frost Gate Mission and still have no idea what this is for.

Celes Tial

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Pirates of BBQ Bay

Mo/Me

Somewhere I picked up the rumor that there is a secret mission in post-searing with Gwen the master Pyromancer as the boss. She appears to be casting fire-based damage over time spells that need to be countered with healing breeze or similar.

But seeing as it is a 'secret' mission, I doubt the few who know would share it.

Skawtt

Skawtt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

W/N

The last trip I went into the Underworld there was only 3 of us (just to show a friend wth it is). Since it was only us we just stood in the starting area and I noticed two ghosts speaking so I read what they said. Now I cant remember the specifics(sp?) But they were most definetly Gwens parents.

Rayawni

Rayawni

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

[BoD] Bane of Darkness, Heroes Inc. [HI]

E/Mo

Quote:
I'm also pretty certain that if you don't periodically give her a flower, she turns on you and sets you on fire. This is what I assume from reading other threads concerning her.
After I got the shred from her and had her follow me around I stopped giving her those flowers and she never caught me on fire. She just kept babbling on and on about dumb stuff.

Some say the quest may have been broken but it is possible with the next expansion they may put in a quest for Gwen or some other update.

Who knows...Gwen is still a mystery...

Ketendra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

New York

JackKnife Brigade

E/Mo

I sent this to ANet

I have 3 chars in post searing all have the tapestry shred. I have run out of vault space and dont want to carry it around. I have read on one of the message boards that the quest is broken, and it is useless, but I dont want to destroy it unless I know for sure, I am not asking you to tell me what to do with it (if the quest is not broken). Just whether or not I should hold on to it or if I can make some vault space.


and got this in return -

Thank you for your report. There is a known issue with Gwen's Treasure quest. This issue is currently being investigated by the development team and should be fixed in a later build. . I apologize for the inconvenience and wish you good hunting in the future.


so the quest is broken - I would think they would announce in the patch when it is fixed (due to how many questions there are on it)

Also there is no secret level - that is a rumor that was started not long after the game came out to try and explain the questions around the shred (if I had the time I could probably find the original post on that, but cant remember where it was exactly) and it kind of exploded into people believing it.

Draven Mauler

Draven Mauler

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

ION

Mo/N

Quote:
hmm maybe you should off held on to it...

Source: http://www.pixelrage.com/mesmerize/fansitefriday/46/

In another example, you may go on a quest where you are tasked with saving the lives of a group of NPC's. Later on, that group could reappear in order to assist you in another quest. The outcome of a dynamic quest system could mean that the number of lives that you saved earlier would be the precise number of "helpers" that you have on your team when you take part in the later quest.

so perhaps if you hold on to it in a later quest it could be usefull
mmmm... I think... Yeah. I'm pretty sure this is the answer lol
Thanks for the cryptic and not very helpful answer lol
Granted I was not able to go to the link (some firewall probs)