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Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 04:55 - 1

We will be making some changes to the preorder items before we launch Guild Wars at 12:01 am Pacific Time tomorrow morning (April 28th). The first is that you'll be sure to get your items on each of your characters. New characters will have the items; existing characters will acquire them after you log out. Be sure you have room in your intentory, though, to hold that preorder item!

In addition, we've discovered that due to the fact that we did not have the opportunity to test the preorder items as thoroughly as the other in-game items, their stats needed to be modified. One of the issues was the fact that the base energy bonuses were unintentionally stacking. Because it's our foremost goal to make sure that Guild Wars is and remains a well-balanced and fair game, we’re changing a few item specs before the game goes live. Here's the new table of stats for the items:

Shield - 6 Armor (if equipped without attribute)
- 14 Al (8+ Tactics)
- +2 energy (8+ Sword)
- +2 energy (8+ Axe)

Bow - 4-7 damage (if equipped without attribute)
- 13-25 damage (10+ Bow)
- Armor 5 (10+ Expertise)

Hammer - 4-7 damage (if equipped without attribute)
- 18-33 damage (9+ Hammer)
- 20 health (5+ str)

Monk Focus - 5 Base energy (if equipped without attribute)
- 7 Energy (8 + smite)
- 6 al (8+ prot)
- 40 Health (8+ Healing)

Necro Focus - 5 Base energy (if equipped without attribute)
- 10 Energy (8+ Death)
- 4 armor (8+ Curse)
- 30 Health (8+ blood)

Euro Focus - 5 Base Energy (if equipped without attribute)
- 5 Armor (8+ Divine Favor)
- 10 Energy (8+ Divine Favor)
- 12 Energy (8+ Energy Storage)
- 12 Energy (8+ Soul reaping)
- 16 Al (8+ Str)
- 10 Al (8+ expertise)
- 12 energy (8+ Fast Casting)

We apologize for any inconvenience this presents.

Thanks a lot, and we hope that you'll enjoy playing Guild Wars.

Jwh6913

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Death Infernal Evil

Mo/R

28 Apr 2005 at 05:02 - 2

hmm Euro focus seems to do a lot more than the others.. how is that fair to rest of us?

+20 possible energy just because you have both primary and secondary that has attributes to glean the most of it? that comes out to be MORE than a single bow or shield can do singlehandly...

sorry Gaile, but It seems that America is getting shortshafted by that item.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 05:05 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jwh6913

hmm Euro focus seems to do a lot more than the others.. how is that fair to rest of us?

+20 possible energy just because you have both primary and secondary that has attributes to glean the most of it? that comes out to be MORE than a single bow or shield can do singlehandly...

sorry Gaile, but It seems that America is getting shortshafted by that item.

Actually, remember that all of those skills are primaries. So no, it doesn't add up, it affect only the single primary that a character would have.

Jwh6913

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Death Infernal Evil

Mo/R

28 Apr 2005 at 05:07 - 4

ok now that makes more sense then

Great Gjl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 07:13 - 5

Why are my preorder items on both characters missing? I had them yesterday.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I logged off yesterday with full inventories, so my items probably ended up getting lost. Hopefully I won't have to start all over just to get my damn item =/.

Brungo

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Tampa,FL,USA

28 Apr 2005 at 07:31 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Gjl

Why are my preorder items on both characters missing? I had them yesterday.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I logged off yesterday with full inventories, so my items probably ended up getting lost. Hopefully I won't have to start all over just to get my damn item =/.

I logged on with 2 characters having two different types of pre-order weapons. However, I won't be complaining.

NoirQ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 09:41 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Gjl

Why are my preorder items on both characters missing? I had them yesterday.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I logged off yesterday with full inventories, so my items probably ended up getting lost. Hopefully I won't have to start all over just to get my damn item =/.

yup, mine has gone as well

tried clearing space and relogging in, and it didn't appear... :/

Zarconis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Atlanta,GA

28 Apr 2005 at 11:08 - 8

That's quite a nerf on the initial damage without the attributes. Now the pre-order items are nearly worthless until your attributes can get to that level. To bad the item doesn't "grow" with you.

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

28 Apr 2005 at 11:10 - 9

thank you Gaile...

Shield - 6 Armor (if equipped without attribute)
- 14 Al (8+ Tactics)
- +2 energy (8+ Sword)
- +2 energy (8+ Axe)

I was using an armor 6 ornate shield/buckler, which i really was hoping to use the k. targe and it only originally had 4 armor @ start.

not huge diff for pre-sear but now i get the nice look.hehe.
gg

just a side question: atm the shield shows, armor: 14 (req. something 10? tactics)
and theres no "armor: 6" displayed. is it assumed there is 6 armor w/o attribute.
just checking

*end transmission...

Century

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

florida

28 Apr 2005 at 12:31 - 10

I have more than one preorder item on my characters.. My problem is how do I get rid of an unneeded preorder item.. Cant seem to drop it, sell it or salvage it.

absit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 12:35 - 11

Try destroying it?

Personally my bow disappeared at some point within the last hour or two. I finally got the 10 marksmanship and the bow is GONE! Very lame, hope I get it back soon.

Kelzar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Seatle, WA

28 Apr 2005 at 13:09 - 12

IS the Bone Idol like a staff, and if it is - is it one or two handed, cuz id like to know if i can use a shield w/ it ! ? ! ?

MegaPsycho

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 13:16 - 13

Quote:

IS the Bone Idol like a staff, and if it is - is it one or two handed, cuz id like to know if i can use a shield w/ it ! ? ! ?

One handed, and actually its I guess what you would call a secondary weapon. And its pretty decent too once you reach higher levels.

Kelzar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Seatle, WA

28 Apr 2005 at 13:21 - 14

OH, so it would act as in the shield slot... thats interesting, hmm what Dark N' Evil weapon to use as Primary ?

MegaPsycho

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 13:29 - 15

Im lvl 8 and im still on a starter truncheon

I cant find a decent weapon anywhere w/out paying more gold than I have

Sausaletus Rex

Death From Above

Join Date: Dec 2004

28 Apr 2005 at 13:37 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starsky-sama

atm the shield shows, armor: 14 (req. something 10? tactics) and theres no "armor: 6" displayed. is it assumed there is 6 armor w/o attribute.

Yes, and not just for the Pre-Order items. You can use anything if you don't meet the requirement, you'll just use it at a less effective level. For example, if you found a focus that said Energy+10, Domination 9+ you could equip it and use it even if you didn't have 9 or more ranks in Domination and even if you weren't a Mesmer at all. It's just that rather than getting 10 energy you'd get something like 3. Although it doesn't say that on your pre-order items (and it probably should, a lot of people will just set them aside because they don't meet the requirements but when you start out a 6AL shield or a 5 energy focus is actually pretty good.) that's how they work. Gaile's just filled us in on just how much of a hit you take to that item's effectiveness before you can pump your attributes and meet the requirements.

Great Gjl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 16:05 - 17

I really don't like the manner they added a 'quick fix' for the preorder item problem some people were having, since it just created problems for others. It's rediculous to suggest that everyone will have space in their inventories at the time of the 'fix.' When can I expect to recieve my item back if ever?

Also this announcement was made at 6am GMT, before the majority of Europeans would have had time to react to the announcement.

absit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 21:40 - 18

Eh, I just want my Itha's Bow back -_-

Great Gjl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 22:21 - 19

I just want to know wether I have to reset my Warrior to get my Prism =/. If nothing is being done to address this issue then I'd be happy to hear it so I at least know what my position is.

Swampthing

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 22:27 - 20

Same here... my Ithas Bow completely disappeared!!

KainShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Legacy of Abyss

E/

28 Apr 2005 at 22:36 - 21

my Chimeric Prism is weaker than the one posted

:

- 5 Base Energy (if equipped without attribute)
- 3 Energy (8+ Divine Favor)
- 7 Energy (8+ Energy Storage)
- 7 Energy (8+ Soul reaping)
- 7 energy (8+ Fast Casting)
- 8 Armor (8+ Divine Favor)
- 16 Al (8+ Strenght)
- 10 Al (8+ expertise)

O_o it grows with my level? i'm twelve and it didn't change yet

I Hope this is a bug, only +13 energy for an Elementalist / mesmer / Necro it's useless

absit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Apr 2005 at 22:43 - 22

I levelled hard for the first two days and I really don't feel like doing it again ALREADY. I'd rather not have to reroll to get my item -_-

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

29 Apr 2005 at 00:24 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Actually, remember that all of those skills are primaries. So no, it doesn't add up, it affect only the single primary that a character would have.

But the strength on Chimeric Prism seems overpowered. You have a +5 energy 16 AL shield. While it isn't always better then the +45 health ones in PVP, it's still a far cry better then anything most people will see in PVE.

Ithas Bow is probably the worst, a trajectory that makes flatbows look flat for once, and not exactly the best rate of fire or range, has +5 armour to everything even though it has only slightly less range then a long bow (whats the point then? make it add damage or something) it's only meant as a filler, and even then, it only fills up to the point where you get your first short bow.

magik87

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Apr 2005 at 00:31 - 24

My husband wrote to support regarding his missing Ithas bow and they said they are aware of the situation and are rolling out a fix for it in the next 24 hours.

Disco Impulse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Alabama

29 Apr 2005 at 03:10 - 25

so that is why my bow seemed to go n00bish on me...i thought i was going crazy

Swampthing

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Apr 2005 at 09:10 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by magik87

My husband wrote to support regarding his missing Ithas bow and they said they are aware of the situation and are rolling out a fix for it in the next 24 hours.

It would be nice for NCSoft to publicly admit there is a mistake with the items disappearing, and talk about their planned fix instead of everyone having to write to support to get the same answer.

Customer Support 101 guys... come on, better learn it now before the big problems crop up later.

butcherboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Apr 2005 at 13:10 - 27

Most folks go home at around 5pm... it looks like they rolled out the changes and went home for the night. They will be back in action and address the issue (hopefully) this morning. I just know my stuff was there last night when I started playing at 9 after waiting all night for the game to DL (long story).

The ithas bow is doing 4-7 damage now? I wonder if I hadn't accidentally scrapped better bows for the inventory slots...

I was wondering if they were going to balance the pre-orders sooner or later. Most of the weapons were way cooler than most drops I've gotten.

ladykats

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Apr 2005 at 16:46 - 28

i never got my preordered bow either .

ladykats

Swampthing

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

29 Apr 2005 at 23:46 - 29

Any changes yet? I've seen nothing about this incident on the main news page.

Kelzar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Seatle, WA

30 Apr 2005 at 03:18 - 30

What if you create ur Charachter (which ive done lvl 5 necro so far) and few days later get the pre order items in mail then activate them..... WTF! they should apear in the inventory...

MindBullets

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

SLC, Utah

30 Apr 2005 at 04:23 - 31

For those that are saying their character they used in the Beta doesn't have the item they entered in, you will need to delete that character and re-create them.
I found that my initial character from Beta didn't have the item.
When I created a new character, whammo, I did.

Just a thought.

Mind

haran

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

30 Apr 2005 at 04:31 - 32

I think they are working on an in-game command to retrieve your unique item.

Zhragu

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

30 Apr 2005 at 06:02 - 33

I have a different sort of problem.

I pre ordered my GW from EB. Now from what I know the pre order item from EB was supposed to be a bow. For some reason I get a censor instead? Why is this? Did I do something wrong? I have entered both keys (my beta pre order key and the key inside the release version found inside the jewel case on the insert) and still can not get the bow.

I want my bow, not a censor. What's the fix for this problem?

risquezebra

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

florida

30 Apr 2005 at 08:06 - 34

I also lost my bow the other day and got a response that they were fixing it within 24 hours. 36 hours later I wrote again and I got a message saying that they'd be setting up a command to get your preorder item whenever you needed it incase you lost or destroyed it.

Been about 20 hrs now...I'm sure it is a hard fix though. Hopefully they are back and fixed up by Monday.

Beelzebubba

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Eyes of the Seer [Seer]

N/Me

30 Apr 2005 at 09:27 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by KainShadow

- 5 Base Energy (if equipped without attribute)
- 3 Energy (8+ Divine Favor)
- 7 Energy (8+ Energy Storage)
- 7 Energy (8+ Soul reaping)
- 7 energy (8+ Fast Casting)
- 8 Armor (8+ Divine Favor)
- 16 Al (8+ Strenght)
- 10 Al (8+ expertise)

O_o it grows with my level? i'm twelve and it didn't change yet

It doesn't get better with levels, it gets better as you put points into the attributes listed. Such as Divine Favor or Expertise. Obviously you can't put points into all the stuff listed in that item, so you only get some of the effect.

Deagol

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Denmark

30 Apr 2005 at 09:35 - 36

You can actually only put points into one of the attributes, since they are all reserved for the primary profession. So you can only get one of the effects, the one that match your primary professions.

The US pre-order items are better than the prism for one particular profession (primary or secondary), and worse for all other professions.

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

30 Apr 2005 at 13:27 - 37

On the subject of bow's and this item..

is it me or is the item shafting Rangers?.. my friend complains because he is a ranger, rangers use bows.. two handed weapon, and therfore can never carry the item.

I realise other class have two handed weapons as well, and I realise that rangers dont HAVE to use a bow... but, cmon, rangers and bows are like fish and chips

The Snowman

Swampthing

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

30 Apr 2005 at 15:29 - 38

I understand it might take awhile to implement the fix, but I still think ArenaNet or NCSoft should have stepped up to the plate and admitted the problem. We are just a few complaining here, how about all the others that were effected that simply haven't seen this site or the others and wonder what is going on? It would be nice to put a small statement - even if written in the positive light - about the items on the main Guild Wars website... and keep updating as necessary. 2 days ago they said 24 hours....

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

30 Apr 2005 at 16:12 - 39

just happened to me. i had all 4 charcs w/ the targe. but after remaking 2 they both didnt have the shield after creation...hope they update us soon.
i can wait no hurries/worries.

Inacurate

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Merrimack, NH

Looking for serious PvP, yet wanting to try things kinda Guild!

Mo/

01 May 2005 at 01:27 - 40

I wish there was a way to change the pre-order Item you recieved since there was a LOT of mis-information about them prior to game launch.

Inac