I think I found the source of the problem.
I had updated the Marvell Yukon integrated ethernet controller on Windows Update on 7/20/2005 to version 8.35.
By rolling it back to 8.32 (6/27/2005) or any previous driver before 8.35, the crashing and freezing stopped. Ok ok so I tried everything I can do to make Guild Wars not lockup on me. I went through great lengths with no good results. Until I came across this info and I have been playing lockup free ever since. So if you ever updated the 8.35 on windows update try rolling back to your previous driver and see if that helps. I am even online still as I type this post! woot!
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If you can't rollback drivers try downloading from their website found here:
http://www.marvell.com/drivers/search.do
If you don't know how to check the version of your driver post can be found here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...27&postcount=5
Possible fix to lockups!!
wutdafeezi
Elvarg
What do you know, I completely forgot about actually installing that update around that time to fix an unrelated problem (which it didn't, and hence was useless anyways). I rolled it back to my last one now (.25) and will post how it worked.
wutdafeezi
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I'm going on my 2nd day of not having any problems since I rolled back to the previous driver.
I'm going on my 2nd day of not having any problems since I rolled back to the previous driver.
grasso_mike
i need to get this! wheres the site? i have windows xp, and i play from a college dorm, and it locksup every 2 secs. the exact address where i can get that 8.32 version.
wutdafeezi
Right click "My Computer", choose "Properties".
Now click on the "Hardware" tab. Once there click on "Device Manager"
Under the Network adapters; you should see a Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet Controller.
Right click and choose "properties", under that window go to "drivers"
Make certain that you have the 8.35.2.3 driver installed. If you do just go ahead and roll back to previous driver. It will go back to the previous driver installed. Make sure to reboot after to see if it fixed the problem with your lockups.
Now click on the "Hardware" tab. Once there click on "Device Manager"
Under the Network adapters; you should see a Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet Controller.
Right click and choose "properties", under that window go to "drivers"
Make certain that you have the 8.35.2.3 driver installed. If you do just go ahead and roll back to previous driver. It will go back to the previous driver installed. Make sure to reboot after to see if it fixed the problem with your lockups.
Omiko1
This worked for me! I rolled my drivers back... they went back to 7.1... something, but I played for hours with no lockup! 
EF2NYD
What video card and drivers are you using? I have a Yukon chip as well, but I'm thinking the drivers for my Geforce 6600gt are to blame for the lockups (anything in the 7x.xx series). Also, I wouldn't trust ANY drivers on the Windows Update site.
wutdafeezi
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Originally Posted by EF2NYD
What video card and drivers are you using? I have a Yukon chip as well, but I'm thinking the drivers for my Geforce 6600gt are to blame for the lockups (anything in the 7x.xx series). Also, I wouldn't trust ANY drivers on the Windows Update site.
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zixaq
bah, I'm on Win2k, gotta hunt down old drivers
buddhafest
this is an amazing find... I will surely try this out and post back my results. OMG i do remember updating my Yukon Gigabit drivers too off windows a while back....
jus a question wutdafeezi.. what motherboard do you have?
and for zixaq.. im on w2k also.. if you find can you post a link? I shall do same if i find one.....
jus a question wutdafeezi.. what motherboard do you have?
and for zixaq.. im on w2k also.. if you find can you post a link? I shall do same if i find one.....
Omiko1
This was the problem, since I rolled back my drivers I have had no problems!!!
This should be a sticky... this works!!
This should be a sticky... this works!!
Lukozer
This is all well and good if you have that particular ethernet controller, but a lot of us, including me, don't. Also, people like me who are running XP x64 don't have the luxury of simply rolling back to previous drivers, there aren't a huge amount of 64bit ethernet drivers out at the moment.
buddhafest
the link to get drivers is from Marvell's own site
http://www.marvell.com/drivers/search.do
You just select the corresponding criteria from the drop down menus to get the appropriate driver.
Hope this will help.
I am going to install the drivers and see if this solves my problem as well. Will post back with results.
http://www.marvell.com/drivers/search.do
You just select the corresponding criteria from the drop down menus to get the appropriate driver.
Hope this will help.
I am going to install the drivers and see if this solves my problem as well. Will post back with results.
buddhafest
Well at the Marvell site they didn't provide me with an older version of the driver for Win2K but they did provide the latest one released this month.
8.27.4.3 and so far it seems to be working.. I left the game on for 5 hours and it didn't lockup. Settings were at 1280x1024 with 2xAA at the second highest quality.
I believe that the problem for some players lockups would be their ethernet drivers.
Those of you running drivers that are 8.35 should definately try to update to newer ones or rollback to older ones.
I will try to run the game even longer on 1600x1200 4xAA and see how long it holds up.
Thanks to Wutda for posting this in the first place.
This should b a sticky as well like another Unofficial fix for locksups and freezes
8.27.4.3 and so far it seems to be working.. I left the game on for 5 hours and it didn't lockup. Settings were at 1280x1024 with 2xAA at the second highest quality.
I believe that the problem for some players lockups would be their ethernet drivers.
Those of you running drivers that are 8.35 should definately try to update to newer ones or rollback to older ones.
I will try to run the game even longer on 1600x1200 4xAA and see how long it holds up.
Thanks to Wutda for posting this in the first place.
This should b a sticky as well like another Unofficial fix for locksups and freezes
wutdafeezi
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Originally Posted by buddhafest
this is an amazing find... I will surely try this out and post back my results. OMG i do remember updating my Yukon Gigabit drivers too off windows a while back....
jus a question wutdafeezi.. what motherboard do you have? and for zixaq.. im on w2k also.. if you find can you post a link? I shall do same if i find one..... |
buddhafest
Okay, so I am just reporting that at my second run of leaving the game on has been successful. Game has not locked up after 6 hours at 1600x1200 with 4xAA and highest quality settings.
I used to get lockups within the hour, 30 minuts or the max i could play as 3 hours. I was never able to get this game to run this long two times in a row.
I used to get lockups within the hour, 30 minuts or the max i could play as 3 hours. I was never able to get this game to run this long two times in a row.
wutdafeezi
glad to see you're still running smooth buddhafest! mods if possible this should be a sticky! its a good info for people that downloaded those drivers on windows update
CalefanDraven
wutdafeezi, I just saw this post and If this works I may hunt you down a kiss you.
I have nearly rebuilt my pc through suggestions from GW Tech SUpport, Friends, and the web to try and fix my lockups.
Have a p4 2.8 HT was told it could be heat (spent 50 dollars on a beetle cooler) and a couple more exhaust fans.
Was told it could be RAM went from 1GIG to 3 Gigs.
Was told it could be power went from 300 watt to 580.
Was told it was the onboard sound. Bought and audigy 2
Finally was told it was my 9800Pro overheating bought an ATI silencer cooler.
SO....if simply rolling back this driver fixes my lockups be looking for me
I have nearly rebuilt my pc through suggestions from GW Tech SUpport, Friends, and the web to try and fix my lockups.
Have a p4 2.8 HT was told it could be heat (spent 50 dollars on a beetle cooler) and a couple more exhaust fans.
Was told it could be RAM went from 1GIG to 3 Gigs.
Was told it could be power went from 300 watt to 580.
Was told it was the onboard sound. Bought and audigy 2
Finally was told it was my 9800Pro overheating bought an ATI silencer cooler.
SO....if simply rolling back this driver fixes my lockups be looking for me
chris_lyon82
[QUOTE=wutdafeezi]I think I found the source of the problem.
I had updated the Marvell Yukon integrated ethernet controller on Windows Update on 7/20/2005 to version 8.35.........[QUOTE]
Hi when your game use to crash how did it crash? My game just freezes and then I have to ctrl-alt-del to get back to the desktop, so i was wondering if this is the same problem.
I have changed my drivers. On the main screen it shows the driver as version 7.21.1.3 date 19/08/2004, however if I go to driver details it shows version 8.32.2.3 built by: WinDDK
Is this right?
Thanks
I had updated the Marvell Yukon integrated ethernet controller on Windows Update on 7/20/2005 to version 8.35.........[QUOTE]
Hi when your game use to crash how did it crash? My game just freezes and then I have to ctrl-alt-del to get back to the desktop, so i was wondering if this is the same problem.
I have changed my drivers. On the main screen it shows the driver as version 7.21.1.3 date 19/08/2004, however if I go to driver details it shows version 8.32.2.3 built by: WinDDK
Is this right?
Thanks
wutdafeezi
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Originally Posted by chris_lyon82
Hi when your game use to crash how did it crash? My game just freezes and then I have to ctrl-alt-del to get back to the desktop, so i was wondering if this is the same problem.
I have changed my drivers. On the main screen it shows the driver as version 7.21.1.3 date 19/08/2004, however if I go to driver details it shows version 8.32.2.3 built by: WinDDK Is this right? Thanks |
wutdafeezi
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Originally Posted by CalefanDraven
wutdafeezi, I just saw this post and If this works I may hunt you down a kiss you.
I have nearly rebuilt my pc through suggestions from GW Tech SUpport, Friends, and the web to try and fix my lockups. Have a p4 2.8 HT was told it could be heat (spent 50 dollars on a beetle cooler) and a couple more exhaust fans. Was told it could be RAM went from 1GIG to 3 Gigs. Was told it could be power went from 300 watt to 580. Was told it was the onboard sound. Bought and audigy 2 Finally was told it was my 9800Pro overheating bought an ATI silencer cooler. SO....if simply rolling back this driver fixes my lockups be looking for me |
aeroclown
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Originally Posted by Lukozer
This is all well and good if you have that particular ethernet controller, but a lot of us, including me, don't. Also, people like me who are running XP x64 don't have the luxury of simply rolling back to previous drivers, there aren't a huge amount of 64bit ethernet drivers out at the moment.
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First off Systems do not come preloaded with Windows x64 so either you have a high end system that cost a wod or you spent extra money on something that will not help you at all. If you did well Im sorry to say that you are not going to get much of a gain, not even better compatability.
Secondly Guildwars is designed to run on a 32 bit platform not a 64 bit one. It is plainly stated that guild wars Does not support 64 bit windows enviroments. Read the Tech support page . . . help yourself.
Sweetloaf
Hi there,
silly question I know but is the Marvell Yukon an ethernet port? If so were you running Guild Wars on this port? If not and simply having dodgy drivers installed on caused the problem then what would happen if I simply uninstalled the Yukon drivers completely?
btw I am having the random blackout problems can't work out solution at all!!
silly question I know but is the Marvell Yukon an ethernet port? If so were you running Guild Wars on this port? If not and simply having dodgy drivers installed on caused the problem then what would happen if I simply uninstalled the Yukon drivers completely?
btw I am having the random blackout problems can't work out solution at all!!
chris_lyon82
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Originally Posted by wutdafeezi
First off, when my game crashed I couldn't even do a ctrl+alt+del. I had to manually shut it off by holding the power on button. Second off, after rolling back the drivers did you have any problems running GW? As long it doesn't display the 8.35.2.3 version of the drivers you should be set. Also curious what kind of motherboard are you using?
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Hi,
Im using a Asus A8N-SLi Deluxe which has 2 ethernet ports the MARVELL PCI Gbit LAN controller and a Nvidia N Force Network Controller.
Ive tried updating and rolling back both sets of drivers. Since reading this post and trying different things I currently have the Marvell uninstalled and Im using the Nvidia port, however the game still crashes.
I had a simular problem with mXo which went away with a game update. Ill keep trying different things.
CalefanDraven
OH yea 2 days now and no lockups. I have the gigabyte IPE1000Pro G motherboard and this is great. I finally finished Hell's Prep couldnt get through because I kept locking up. THANK YOU wutdafeezi.....I am now using the 8.32 that i downloaded from Marvell's website.
ifuwerepbandj
I bought a new computer just a week ago and I loaded up guild wars on it and had this problem: goes to blue screen and says critical error update BIOS. I immediately thought it was the computer overheting because it was a laptop and I never once heard the fan come one, but the computer didn't even feel warm. I eventually sent it back to dell since it was new I figure they will fix it. But does it sounds like that could have been my problem? If so is it possible to roll back a driver if the only driver on there is the newest one?
CalefanDraven
My problem was different as my machine would simply "freeze"....lockup while in the middle of an action in guild wars and I would be unable to do anything: move, move the mouse, ctrl alt del anything. I would have to power down using the off button. The lockups were also very sparatic could take 5 min could take 2 hours. This driver rollback seems to have worked. 3 days now and not a lockup.
Old Dood
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Originally Posted by ifuwerepbandj
I bought a new computer just a week ago and I loaded up guild wars on it and had this problem: goes to blue screen and says critical error update BIOS. I immediately thought it was the computer overheting because it was a laptop and I never once heard the fan come one, but the computer didn't even feel warm. I eventually sent it back to dell since it was new I figure they will fix it. But does it sounds like that could have been my problem? If so is it possible to roll back a driver if the only driver on there is the newest one?
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This is why I also pay extra for the Floppy Drive. To me it is the best way to update a BIOs. That is the only real reason I still have Floppy Drives on all my computers anymore.
wutdafeezi
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Originally Posted by CalefanDraven
OH yea 2 days now and no lockups. I have the gigabyte IPE1000Pro G motherboard and this is great. I finally finished Hell's Prep couldnt get through because I kept locking up. THANK YOU wutdafeezi.....I am now using the 8.32 that i downloaded from Marvell's website.
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wutdafeezi
bump don't want this thread to get lost. since it helped several user's with their problems. Just to follow up, GW has yet to lockup or reboot on me since I did this fix. Before this I was about to uninstall the game because I was fed up with the constant lockups.
CalefanDraven
Same Here no lockups no problems .............READY FOR SORROW
free
What if I dont have a Marvel Yukon ethernet card and I also experience the lockup... what should i do? (Currently at work so I cant check my NIC)
The lockup sometimes happen while playing GW and CS:Source.
Please let me know.
Thanks in advance.
The lockup sometimes happen while playing GW and CS:Source.
Please let me know.
Thanks in advance.
Set
I actually have this card, and it was at a lower version and disabled. I tried to upgrade to the latest drivers just now from the Marvell web site. I'm just wondering... if the card is disabled would you still have this issue?
My computer would totally lockup too.
My computer would totally lockup too.