Invincible Warrior-Hack?

BokaSlayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/E

I was in Competition arena with my PvP character and meet some party. We killed 3 of them. The last one was warrior and we fough him for about 7 mins and couldn't kill him. The only skills he was using were Hundred Blades and Healing brezze. He block all of my attacks and his HP was above 90%. I made screenshot before I quit this 11 minute battle.

Titan Chrae

Titan Chrae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Frozen Lake

Illustrious Chromatic Enigmas (ICE)

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BokaSlayer
I was in Competition arena with my PvP character and meet some party. We killed 3 of them. The last one was warrior and we fough him for about 7 mins and couldn't kill him. The only skills he was using were Hundred Blades and Healing brezze. He block all of my attacks and his HP was above 90%. I made screenshot before I quit this 11 minute battle.


The only time this ever happened to me was with a group of my guildies. Were were in Team Arena and this group comes in. We quickly dispatch everyone but a warrior. He just wouldn't die. Finally I noticed that he had enchantments on him. After getting rid of the enchantments he went down quickly. He cussed at us and left. Apparently we broke his winning streak.

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

your sure he wasnt using stances... that would generally cause "blocks".

its probably a pure tank build.

/meh.

*and yup, the warrior is "enchanted" from the pic. mending perhaps...

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

This happened to me the other night and I wondered myself. They had at least 2 stances and a bunch of buffs from their monk.


I am still wondering though, seeing as others have encountered it.

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

arent all characs allowed only 1 stance at a time?

salja Wachi

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

the Bleeding Edge

N/Mo

strip enchantments and he will go down like a fly.

warriors maybe the easiest profession to beat. so many vulnerabilities.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

He likely was using a stance (or several) to block and evade. And Hundred Blades with Vigorous Spirit or a 3/1 Vamp mod would keep his health high too.

Schorny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

stop is stances, put on degeneration, interrupt/drain/shatter his healing breeze, drain his energy,...?

tastegw

tastegw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

SoCal

E/

you just got owned by the beta build style tank.

its so easy to counter.

enchant removal and wild blow if you got a war on your team with it.

their damage is so little compaired to other types of wars. they pose no threat in the real pvp aspect of the game. gvg and tombs.

LathalDraugr

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

They're probably just using some combo of health regen enchantments like Mending, Watchful Spirit, Vigorous Spirit, Healing hands and Live Vicariously with Bonettis for energy and another stance for Bonettis downtime. I ran similar builds to this occaisonally before enchantment stripping became popular, it's quite funny watching 4 other warriors attacking you and doing next to no damage. Any decent enchant removal will kill him in no time, and consider bringing wild blow, it's surprisingly useful in the random arenas.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Rend Enchantments, Rigor Mortis, Faintheartedness, Spiteful Spirit.

necro would own this noob

BokaSlayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/E

@StarskySama

I'm sure he didnt used stances, you can see what skills is you opponent doing and he was doing only two skills healing brezze and hundred blades

@kvndoom

Like i said he didnt used stances and he didnt had vampiric mod on his weapon

I'm wondering how he got energy for hundred blades !!
my best guess is balthazar's aura

but how could he block all my attacks without a stance!!!

BokaSlayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/E

And i think he had 3 enchantments on i will try to get better picture
thah would make his energy regen -1

Schorny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by BokaSlayer
I'm sure he didnt used stances, you can see what skills is you opponent doing and he was doing only two skills healing brezze and hundred blades
you cannot see the usage of stances

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Actually, stances produce a graphic over the character and each has a different style, but you wont see the skill name next to the character name.

Sunrazor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by BokaSlayer
@StarskySama

I'm sure he didnt used stances, you can see what skills is you opponent doing and he was doing only two skills healing brezze and hundred blades
Stances don't appear on the skills monitor.

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperJ24
you just got owned by the beta build style tank.

its so easy to counter.

enchant removal and wild blow if you got a war on your team with it.

their damage is so little compaired to other types of wars. they pose no threat in the real pvp aspect of the game. gvg and tombs.
Thanks for that

BokaSlayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/E

Yep he was using 3 enchantments

BokaSlayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunrazor
Stances don't appear on the skills monitor.
woops my mistake

salja Wachi

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

the Bleeding Edge

N/Mo

basically like i said aboce strip enchantments and he is toast. thre is not a secret to it.

debuff him and he dies in 10 seconds.

really pretty easy and nowhere near invincible.

have fun

Crispie

Crispie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Michigan

Lords of the Dead

Mo/

Next time dont block the professions of your team, since Im guessing you guys all used attack base damage, something warriors can defend against pretty well.

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispie
Next time dont block the professions of your team, since Im guessing you guys all used attack base damage, something warriors can defend against pretty well.
Yeah, I find it humourous that anyone bothers to hide their build.

BokaSlayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispie
Next time dont block the professions of your team, since Im guessing you guys all used attack base damage, something warriors can defend against pretty well.
yea we used base damage cause it was competition arena and you cant choose your party. i was in party with 2 monks an a ranger

Gerbill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Frozen plains.

The Llanowar Legion [LL]

Me/N

It was probably Mending + Watchful Spirit to get a +5 Health regen but extremely low damage.
And then he probably used Bonetti's Defense to evade and gain Energy.

asdar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I might have been on the warriors team if it was random arena. I went away from the keyboard and started up the oven and put in a pizza for dinner and came back and it was still goin on. I just exited out because I wasn't sure it was ever going to end.

Mhydrian

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Me

Random arenas no one brings enchant removal. Its a real problem. And a single enchant removal isnt going to scratch a enchantment intensive build. Of course this warrior probably would have had a tough time of it. But think about it....remove 1 enchant, cool down 20 seconds, he can recast mending before you could get to some of his more dangerous enchants.

Enchantment removals need to be more plentiful or have their cooldown greatly reduced. In Random arenas its rarely worth it to bring a single enchant removal. I play a ranger quite often and bringing NR is great but there are always noobs running mend or some minor enchant on my team that scream about it. Not to mention if you get grouped with mesmer or necro( currently 35-50% of random 4 PVP opponents seem to be N/me) you cant use it either.

Let it be known there is a HUGE difference between random 4 on 4 and 8 vs 8 matches. In random 4 on 4 certain builds more and more pop up that are plain unkillable, becuase the chance of a random 4 on 4 team having the skills to counter whatever build is less.

Zelnox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal

We Cause Seizures [POKE]

Me/Mo

You can see the warrior blocking from the image. So yes, stances. ^_^

BokaSlayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by asdar
I might have been on the warriors team if it was random arena. I went away from the keyboard and started up the oven and put in a pizza for dinner and came back and it was still goin on. I just exited out because I wasn't sure it was ever going to end.
you might have been my char name is Aaron Greatblade so if u remember..

Warskull

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2005

[out]

He was probably using mending, healing hands, and maybe breeze. Combine that with a number of stances to go through (so you have a stance up most of the time) and maybe an armor boosting shout and you have a tank. He is totally and absolutely useless to the rest of his team. Enchantment break and/or stance break. Wild blow, pure strike, seeking blade, rigor mortis, irrestable blow, determined shot, swift chop, warriors cunning. Take one, they aren't bad. As for enchantment breaking that is a bit trickier in random arenas and you usually have to take them yourself.

salja Wachi

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

the Bleeding Edge

N/Mo

any necro or mesmer better come to any PvP match with at least 1 enchanctment removal spell. the best necro spell to bring is Rend enchantments. it take down 8-9 of them. for 10 energy. very cheap but a long cool down time, however in 4v4 the match should be over before you ahve to use it again anyway

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsky-sama
arent all characs allowed only 1 stance at a time?
yup. only 1 at a time, but you can carry multiple in your skill bar.

tastegw

tastegw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

SoCal

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warskull
He was probably using mending, healing hands, and maybe breeze. Combine that with a number of stances to go through (so you have a stance up most of the time) and maybe an armor boosting shout and you have a tank. He is totally and absolutely useless to the rest of his team. Enchantment break and/or stance break. Wild blow, pure strike, seeking blade, rigor mortis, irrestable blow, determined shot, swift chop, warriors cunning. Take one, they aren't bad. As for enchantment breaking that is a bit trickier in random arenas and you usually have to take them yourself.

x_X a warrior with both healing hands and hundred blades?

now that is special!

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Warriors who use mending are funneh.

Especially when I blast em with Shatter Enchantment.

zehly

zehly

Sunshine

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Wired

Daughters of Ananke

Mo/E

Hey, thanks for the post! Now I have a new way of annoying the hell out of unexpected players in the random arenas! Woooo-hoooo!

I hope no one brings enchantment removal, or massive health degen, or *gasp* pacifism. Scourge healing would be bad too

Siren

Siren

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I've been having loads of fun with Well of the Profane. I'm surprised nobody's mentioned it. Perhaps because of the 25 energy cost? I'm running a Me/N Fast Casting/Domination/Death/Curses build currently, and when I see a corpse, and enchanted enemies fighting around that corpse...I'm going to drop a Well of Profane. Works wonders.

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

omg now everyone is gonna know elder wolfs screen name!