http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=50584&page=2
Ok i posted this suggestion and following on from it would like to know how many of you PVE'rs hate PVP or dont mind it or like it. (my last post ties up all the ideas)
As you can see im trying to adjust my idea along the way to fit in with what players want.
Also im just interested to know.
So ill start
I am mainly a PVE'r but do like to do some PVP
PVE'rs hate love dont care for PVP?
aron searle
GraceAlone
I haven't read the other post, but personally I like to play both. I would consider myself a PvE mainly, but I pop into PvP often as well. It's probably a 70/30 split.
vorlon
i prefer pve, not at all interested in pvp, and judging by the length of some of the battles(30 mins +)not likely to!
Sagius Truthbarron
I happen to think that previous gamers (people who started playing video games before WoW or the introduction of the XboX/PS2) enjoy both more than either or.
Really the two work together in harmony pretty well.
I think people who don't like PvP are just those WoW players who have only ever touched the 4vs4 areana.
I think people who don't like PvE are just those CS players who thought that this game was just going to be Counter Strike 3.
Really the two work together in harmony pretty well.
I think people who don't like PvP are just those WoW players who have only ever touched the 4vs4 areana.
I think people who don't like PvE are just those CS players who thought that this game was just going to be Counter Strike 3.
Elistan Theocrat
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
I happen to think that previous gamers (people who started playing video games before WoW or the introduction of the XboX/PS2) enjoy both more than either or.
Really the two work together in harmony pretty well. I think people who don't like PvP are just those WoW players who have only ever touched the 4vs4 areana. I think people who don't like PvE are just those CS players who thought that this game was just going to be Counter Strike 3. |
Esprit
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
I think people who don't like PvE are just those CS players who thought that this game was just going to be Counter Strike 3.
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Axle_Fieshe
i love farming etc in PvE, but lately I've been starting to do more PvP, problem is it's hard to find a team that even knows to kill monks first xD
Fantus
About 80% PvE, 20% PvP here. I like both kinds of gameplay but think they should kept completely seperated (as in no PvP necessary to enter PvE areas, no PvE neccessary to unlock skills). I do PvP only in Arenas though, since I am not really a competitve type of player and thus hate the overserious attitude of the Counterstrike crowd in Tombs/HoH.
aron searle
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I just like the occasional scrap in team arenas myself.
what im trying to figure out is a way to do pvp that pves would like, but i shant say more here im just spamming otherwise.
Hippie Crack
PvP, I only see PvE as a requirement for unlocking what i need for PvP. I came from the Diablo2 PvP/CAL CS crowd, I like competetive gaming, i kinda see it as a sport, physical injuries dont let me play outdoor sports anymore. If I were able to unlock skills with faction at the same rate PvE allows, I would never set foot in the PvE section of the game again. Allmost done though, N/E will be my 3rd character through the PvE part of the game since release(playing since beta's) and are the only 2 classes i dont have anything unlocked with.
thaumaturge
I play very little pvp anymore because I don't have many people to play with, while I can sometimes get a good team from random strangers I'd rather not. It's just too much effort to get a good team, unlike other online games where you can do very well solo (fps games). Guild wars is so heavily reliant on teamwork that 90% of the effort is getting a build and team, the matches are easy after that. I quite enjoy pvp when I do it but it can be frustrating, pve is just good fun unfortunately there isn't much left to do. I've seen reasons for not doing pvp including that pvp kills don't drop and give you any good items so why bother, which if you think about it really is pretty stupid but that's the attitude.
banishd
anet needs to realize there is no point in trying to link PvE and PvP togheter , since most of the people who pvp will only pvp, and most people who pve will only pve.
this thread just proves my point, give them favor crap, give us UAS.
this thread just proves my point, give them favor crap, give us UAS.
Aera Lure
I'm mostly in it for PvE. Its what I enjoy the most. I do like GvG as a concept, though my characters could arguably benefit by being ascended before I did PvP, since there's things I'd wish to set up specifically to do so and I have no slots left for a PvP-only character. Having some trouble getting through ascension. As such, I dont really PvP at all. 
Starsky-sama
I was all PvE @ the start, but then I tried PvP and it was interesting, so now and then I would play PvP.
I like both system of play.
I like both system of play.
Sekkira
People need to realise this game was meant for people who like PvE AND PvP.
asdar
I'm 50/50 pve/pvp.
I like both equally.
If the PvE in GW was a little more complex I'd probably lean a bit more in that direction.
I like both equally.
If the PvE in GW was a little more complex I'd probably lean a bit more in that direction.
sidepocket13
i havent played any high level pvp, nothing past the shiverpeaks. i guess it kind of intimidates me. but i did enjoy it!
Aniewiel
Aron, you're going to find nearly equal numbers on both sides of the "equation" and a smaller but very articulate portion of the population who love both. Sadly, the two extremes don't get along too well and, often, threads like this end up an us vs. them discussions.
banishd
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Originally Posted by Sekkira
People need to realise this game was meant for people who like PvE AND PvP.
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i mean seriously
"I WANT UPGRADES FOR MY GUILD HALL! AND BE ABLE TO HAV SOLDIERS PATROLLING!!"
"I WANT MY OWN HOUSE THAT I CAN BUY FURNITURE FOR!!"
"I WANT HIGHER MAX LVL!!"
"I WANT NON INDIVIUALISED EXPLORABLE AREAS"
gg. no monthly fee WoW ftw.
i say give the pvers what they want
and the pvpers what they want
since the two sides of the game can NEVER be one without some sort of bias towards another side.
Fantus
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Originally Posted by banishd
anet needs to realize there is no point in trying to link PvE and PvP togheter , since most of the people who pvp will only pvp, and most people who pve will only pve.
this thread just proves my point, give them favor crap, give us UAS. |
Toad Healer
i like to do mainly PVE probobly 95% of the time because i dont care about faction i need more money.
Sekkira
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Originally Posted by banishd
"I WANT UPGRADES FOR MY GUILD HALL! AND BE ABLE TO HAV SOLDIERS PATROLLING!!"
"I WANT MY OWN HOUSE THAT I CAN BUY FURNITURE FOR!!" "I WANT HIGHER MAX LVL!!" "I WANT NON INDIVIUALISED EXPLORABLE AREAS" |
banishd
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Originally Posted by Fantus
No, a lot of people play both PvE and PvP. With "seperated", I meant among other things that you should have an equal quick way to unlock skills by doing purely PvP or PvE not that you should get everything for free my PvE chars needed 750 hours of gaming to get.
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and if a game isnt fun, then whats the point in playing it? thats the reason why alot of old guilds now become active, PvP players get tired of not having fun then quit the game, PvE players realize after playing through the game 4 times, getting fissure armor , then they realize theres nothing left to do, stop having fun, get bored of the game then quit and wait for 6 months for an expansion to come out?.
also im sick of people complaining about how people whine about current game issues,
why not make it so when you start you HAVE to make a pvp character, and play PVP 600+ hours, before your allowed to start PvE.
then we'll see who the real whiners are.
2_fingers
Seriously, its difficult to judge a good player before the battle starts.
Vent/ts, - listen to the dudes voice, if its a kid, then defintely no. But not 100% infallible.
Skill bar - perhaps the better way to id if a person is good or not - in a spiker group, someone who has firestorm on his skill bar needs to be booted. similarly, if someone tells me in pve that fire is a n00b element, he gets the boot as well. (unless we are in rof then he more justified)
Low lvl, forge armour ppl - unless the situation calls for a full fledge ascended hero (post droknar missions), i'd usually give in if the lvl is not too low - i.e. henchies lvl +/- 1. Missions in southern shiverpeaks - I do not accept anyone lower than 20 because ur damage/spell o/p would be lower than someone who is ascended. (under the assumption that they have at least done one 15 attribute quest).
People who i'd allow provided they dun sound too immature - forge weilding low lvlers with elites caped from shiverpeaks. Reason? because these people may have gotten a run, and used henchies to get their elite. If u can use henchies, and control them at a lower lvl, then chances are u know how to play in a team.
my 2c anyway
Vent/ts, - listen to the dudes voice, if its a kid, then defintely no. But not 100% infallible.
Skill bar - perhaps the better way to id if a person is good or not - in a spiker group, someone who has firestorm on his skill bar needs to be booted. similarly, if someone tells me in pve that fire is a n00b element, he gets the boot as well. (unless we are in rof then he more justified)
Low lvl, forge armour ppl - unless the situation calls for a full fledge ascended hero (post droknar missions), i'd usually give in if the lvl is not too low - i.e. henchies lvl +/- 1. Missions in southern shiverpeaks - I do not accept anyone lower than 20 because ur damage/spell o/p would be lower than someone who is ascended. (under the assumption that they have at least done one 15 attribute quest).
People who i'd allow provided they dun sound too immature - forge weilding low lvlers with elites caped from shiverpeaks. Reason? because these people may have gotten a run, and used henchies to get their elite. If u can use henchies, and control them at a lower lvl, then chances are u know how to play in a team.
my 2c anyway
Kuku Monk
I'm PvE only. I've tried the PvP and it never really tickled my fancy, so when I finish up PvE it's uninstall time and new game time. 
octaviancmb
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Originally Posted by aron searle
Ok i posted this suggestion and following on from it would like to know how many of you PVE'rs hate PVP or dont mind it or like it.
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Now I'm not trying to derail this rather interesting thread into a NR hate/lovefest, but I really thought this was an excellent time to express my feelings about PvP in general.
Until such a time that PvP allows me to explore builds and experiment with my Mesmer, I'm just not going to bother. Give me back the utility of 58% of my skill list and I'll happily return to the PvP side of the game. It's fun, interesting, and requires quick thinking and skill.
CMB
aron searle
the count so far then
like both = 7 inc me
like mainly pve or balance isssues put u off pvp = 3
PVE only = 2
not tried or not sure about pvp = 2
I have not counted the PVPs as that is not the question
Please tell me if i counted wrong as it went a bit of topic going on about UAS and how the two should be split so coulnd count them in as they didnt say.
ok so what im starting to see is PVPs who wont PVE and visa versa, which we new about.
I basicly want to see how many people would want to see an area that needs pvp to get into, or some kind of pvp challange like who can clear their base of monsters first (im working on this in the suggestions forum)
now theres a large group in the middles who like both and might be interested in this, of course its too soon to tell so..
MORE PLEASE
cmon PVE's do you also do PVP?
like both = 7 inc me
like mainly pve or balance isssues put u off pvp = 3
PVE only = 2
not tried or not sure about pvp = 2
I have not counted the PVPs as that is not the question
Please tell me if i counted wrong as it went a bit of topic going on about UAS and how the two should be split so coulnd count them in as they didnt say.
ok so what im starting to see is PVPs who wont PVE and visa versa, which we new about.
I basicly want to see how many people would want to see an area that needs pvp to get into, or some kind of pvp challange like who can clear their base of monsters first (im working on this in the suggestions forum)
now theres a large group in the middles who like both and might be interested in this, of course its too soon to tell so..
MORE PLEASE
cmon PVE's do you also do PVP?
aron searle
Shameless bumb 
Just as a recap i want to know how many pve'rs also like pvp
see previos post for more.
Just as a recap i want to know how many pve'rs also like pvp
see previos post for more.
Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
I happen to think that previous gamers (people who started playing video games before WoW or the introduction of the XboX/PS2) enjoy both more than either or.
Really the two work together in harmony pretty well. I think people who don't like PvP are just those WoW players who have only ever touched the 4vs4 areana. I think people who don't like PvE are just those CS players who thought that this game was just going to be Counter Strike 3. |
I've played Counter Strike for 3 or so years...everything from OGL to Cal-P....to a group of Cal-m players that played cal-o with just a knife and a hand grenade....to pugs....to warcraft mod servers...to jump servers...I've pretty much played the hell out of the game. I don't play PvP in this game at all...a couple of times just to see what it was like and to test builds against other players for the hell of it. I might PvP once every week or two. I want Twitch PvP games....Guild Wars PvP doesn't entertain me at all...honestly I don't see there being alot of skill involved in GW PvP. There is alot of thought involved...but bring the right build for the right encounter and you eliminate the "skill" factor. Maybe some people see "picking the right buid" as "skill"...maybe I just much prefer twitch games...doesn's matter either way. I do however believe that counter strike players are severely dissapointed by the PvP in this game. I got nothing against people that enjoy PvP..games are meant to be played the way YOU want to play them...it's just not my cup of tea.
wolfy3455
At the moment I'm more of a PVE'r though thats not entirely by choice :P. I like both though I'd prefer to be PvPing as I come from the D2 pvp crowd.
I wouldn't be too sure about that, I know a 26 year old D2 player that still says ggpwntnore and eZpk over vent.
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Andy_M
PvE only here, 14 months of Helbreath will do that to ya...
delfin42
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
I happen to think that previous gamers (people who started playing video games before WoW or the introduction of the XboX/PS2) enjoy both more than either or.
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And I significantly prefer PvE to PvP, only PvPing when my guild _really_ needs an eighth for Tombs or GvG and no one else is available. I'm actually on the verge of deleting my PvP character, as I want to try out a fourth PvE class and can always bring my other three PvE chars to Tombs when necessary.
kirgr526
I'm a, almost 100%, PvE player.
It's not that I don't enjoy or appretiate PvP, but I have just never been any good at it, which diminishes the fun of it.
The way I see it is ANet has created a game to cater for both types of play, they should continue to support both and if that means I have to wait a bit longer for new PvE content, then I'm happy with that. At least they are supporting thier player base, while charging no monthly fee, I call that a bargin.
It's not that I don't enjoy or appretiate PvP, but I have just never been any good at it, which diminishes the fun of it.
The way I see it is ANet has created a game to cater for both types of play, they should continue to support both and if that means I have to wait a bit longer for new PvE content, then I'm happy with that. At least they are supporting thier player base, while charging no monthly fee, I call that a bargin.
Borealis
I was a 100% pve player, but now that I've found a good guild and I'm just getting bored with pve I've started to pvp alot more. Now whenever I can get some time and a tombs group is going I'm game for it. I'd be glad to drop out of a pve mission to get a guild group going in tombs.
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
I happen to think that previous gamers (people who started playing video games before WoW or the introduction of the XboX/PS2) enjoy both more than either or.
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I've been gaming for over 20 years, and I don't like PvP as implemented in Guildwars. I do like PvP as implemented in fps's.
I play PvP occasionally in Guildwars but the proportion is something like 99.5% PvE and 0.5% PvP.
Mavrik
I PvE only with pretty much no interest in PvP for the simple fact it simply does not interest me. Send me into a vast world with maps to explore, skills to learn and sights to see... I'm happy.
Yen-lo-wang
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I PvE only with pretty much no interest in PvP for the simple fact it simply does not interest me. Send me into a vast world with maps to explore, skills to learn and sights to see... I'm happy.
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newjacksm
i like both dont mind it
i sure as hell didnt mind it when I beat the game the first time with my first CHAR but when i wana pvp with other chars...
why the hell do i have to make another pve char and re beat the whoel game to unlock everything I think thats! STUPID!
but... It has to be done and actually it gets you better at the game..
i sure as hell didnt mind it when I beat the game the first time with my first CHAR but when i wana pvp with other chars...
why the hell do i have to make another pve char and re beat the whoel game to unlock everything I think thats! STUPID!
but... It has to be done and actually it gets you better at the game..
Teufel Eldritch
PvEer thru & thru. Why don't I PvP? I prefer exploring the PvE world, learning/earning skills & such. I dislike the PvP gameplay style but even more importantly I dislike the leet attitudes seen in (many)PvP players. They think they are god's gift to GW & don't you forget it! Community attitude has a lot to do with the enjoyment of a online game for me.
zedboy
I play PvE quite often, but I absolutely love PvP.