when i sold a item,it said 20p, but when trade ended it was saying 20g,now if he can do that to me,anybody can get scammed from him,can that player get banned from gw - game???
Ripped off says 20p but was 20g
Lord Bong
when i sold a item,it said 20p, but when trade ended it was saying 20g,now if he can do that to me,anybody can get scammed from him,can that player get banned from gw - game???
Mandy Memory
check it before you get accept
DFrost
If I understood correctly, you were selling an item for 20 plat but accidentally accepted his offer which was 20 gold? Sorry, but there isn't really anything you can do.
Everyone, pay attention when trading, there are a lot of people that like to do this.
Everyone, pay attention when trading, there are a lot of people that like to do this.
ayb
why would he get banned because you're too careless to check the trade window thorougly? pay better attention next time.
Lord Bong
no, its was saying 20p, so i HIT ACCEPT, then on screen it said 20g, players name - ARCK ANIA ,he did it to sum other boy 5 mins later.
NOW THATS CHEATING... SO DOES OR CAN HE GET BANNED, NOT RIPPING ME OFF,GW MUST BE ABLE TO SEE PLAYERS NAMES
NOW THATS CHEATING... SO DOES OR CAN HE GET BANNED, NOT RIPPING ME OFF,GW MUST BE ABLE TO SEE PLAYERS NAMES
Lord Bong
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why would he get banned because you're too careless to check the trade window thorougly? pay better attention next time.
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CHEERS MATE, DONT THINK WE ALL DONKEYS AT THIS GAME
M. Jaden
There's no cheat that changes traded gold value after you accept the trade. He just changed it to 20g right before you pressed accept, happens =/
Lord Bong
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There's no cheat that changes traded gold value after you accept the trade. He just changed it to 20g right before you pressed accept, happens =/
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well if it happens should it not be stopped, thats cheating people out off the game,1st time i heard off this,just makes you treat all traders as scammers, no trust
ayb
if you hit accept and he changes it you have to hit accept again. so his trickery aside it's still ultimately up to you to make sure what you're buying. just like back when people would try to sell dye remover as red dye.
Kuku Monk
Welcome to the game of life.
Algren Cole
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There's no cheat that changes traded gold value after you accept the trade. He just changed it to 20g right before you pressed accept, happens =/
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ayb
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Welcome to the game of life.
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LifeInfusion
lmfao. That was spam, ayb.
Anyway, I think the original poster must have been mistaken. You always check before hitting accept right after someone has changed their items/cash value.
Anyway, I think the original poster must have been mistaken. You always check before hitting accept right after someone has changed their items/cash value.
Santanus_Perro
Yes, there are unethical, immoral people that play this game. That is why due diligence is key. The OP got taken because of lack of due diligence. It is his/her own fault. Learn from this.
Dazzler
Just posing a hypathetical...what if someone created a mouse/key macro that would quickly hit "modify offer" then type in 20g, then "submit offer" and "accept offer". If the macro went quickly enough and they timed it right (got lucky), then after you had decided it was okay and moved your mouse towards "Accept", they might hit the macro, causing the screen to flash for a sec but you might not see it happen or might not be able to tell your hand not to click in time and you click and presto you just go screwed.
Maybe it only works 1 in 50 attempts? But that is plenty for it to be a lucrative thing for a scammer to do.
So, yes, what the OP is claiming would indeed be possible. Whether or not this has happenned is something that cannot be proved given the evidence he has presented.
This would not be too different from the scam where they would try to cancel the trade just as you were placing an item in the box, causing it to drop to the ground and they would then scoop it up and run.
Maybe it only works 1 in 50 attempts? But that is plenty for it to be a lucrative thing for a scammer to do.
So, yes, what the OP is claiming would indeed be possible. Whether or not this has happenned is something that cannot be proved given the evidence he has presented.
This would not be too different from the scam where they would try to cancel the trade just as you were placing an item in the box, causing it to drop to the ground and they would then scoop it up and run.
DarkWasp
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Just posing a hypathetical...what if someone created a mouse/key macro that would quickly hit "modify offer" then type in 20g, then "submit offer" and "accept offer". If the macro went quickly enough and they timed it right (got lucky), then after you had decided it was okay and moved your mouse towards "Accept", they might hit the macro, causing the screen to flash for a sec but you might not see it happen or might not be able to tell your hand not to click in time and you click and presto you just go screwed.
Maybe it only works 1 in 50 attempts? But that is plenty for it to be a lucrative thing for a scammer to do. So, yes, what the OP is claiming would indeed be possible. Whether or not this has happenned is something that cannot be proved given the evidence he has presented. This would not be too different from the scam where they would try to cancel the trade just as you were placing an item in the box, causing it to drop to the ground and they would then scoop it up and run. |
Torkemada
Its hard i know, its anoying too...
but "live and learn". Next time you are gonna be more carefull. Also look at the glass half full. You traded a 20k item and not a Crystal Sword.
I was selling ectos the other thay a pack for 35 plat. The first buyer did the "change" offer move to 35 gold. I kindly told him he was mistaken, and canceled the trade.
Before i could count to 3, he was gone from the district lol, and i was on his ignore list.
There is no rush in selling, if its a real trader, it will leave you more than enough time to re-check your trade. If the guy is rushing you, you are better finding a new buyer/seller.
but "live and learn". Next time you are gonna be more carefull. Also look at the glass half full. You traded a 20k item and not a Crystal Sword.
I was selling ectos the other thay a pack for 35 plat. The first buyer did the "change" offer move to 35 gold. I kindly told him he was mistaken, and canceled the trade.
Before i could count to 3, he was gone from the district lol, and i was on his ignore list.
There is no rush in selling, if its a real trader, it will leave you more than enough time to re-check your trade. If the guy is rushing you, you are better finding a new buyer/seller.
ayb
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This would not be too different from the scam where they would try to cancel the trade just as you were placing an item in the box, causing it to drop to the ground and they would then scoop it up and run.
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Paine
owned...
Jeddak
It's a pain to be scammed for sure but unless the scammer is using some illegal process to cheat you then it just comes down to his word against yours. At least you can learn from your mistake and that is something the scammer will most likely never do and as most of us know: what goes around comes around.
Dazzler
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thats why i never ever sell anything out in the world. i always say "talk to me after we finish the mission / kill insert boss name here. cant drop items on ground in town = don't have to worry about that.
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First you would need a 1gps Internet connection, and a mouse tracker on the trader computer, not happening.
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Gwahir
can you get banned for scamming anyway? Maybe somepeople like to Roleplay as a sneaky thief. Is this not allowed in guild wars?
Daegul Mistweaver
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First you would need a 1gps Internet connection, and a mouse tracker on the trader computer, not happening.
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Edit: Dazzler's post > my typing skills.
B3H
A friend of mine was screwed out of 70k and ended up with 70gp. The guy changed it so fast that my friend had no time to respond at all. Maybe its a program?
Gamba Chimelu
no one ever gets banned permanently for scamming, thats why they keep doing it, report whoever you want with whatever evidence you have, from what ive read the most that will happen is they may get temporary ban of a day or two
Loviatar
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can you get banned for scamming anyway? Maybe somepeople like to Roleplay as a sneaky thief. Is this not allowed in guild wars?
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only if you return the item/plat and say you are just roleplaying.otherwise you are simply a thief
tlr1293
Personally, I'm not against any of this. What say someday a game comes out where things are as close to what real life may be, in a period style game such as GW, and things just happen.
- you go to trade, they drop out, the item drops to ground, they pick up and run (then you pull out a throwing dagger, because you are an outstanding member of the Thives Guild and a dagger is a tool of your profession, and make a nice throw catching the scammer beween the shoulder blades. Better get to your item before it runs off again.
- complete open country from end to end of the 'map', real life WTF, and picture you step into a tavern, join a group to go seek revenge on the Baron who stole some guy's sster away and has placed her into some slavery bond
- you wander, make friends, enemies, fight monsters in hordes and small groups, or solo, hide behind bushes to shake the demons following you after that battle at the mouth of their cave where half your party was killed.
- magic is everywhere, but you must learn to master it - LEARN, not just run to a Wizard, click a button, protect for 2 minutes from enemies and POOF! you now know magic.
- become aknight with the king's army to advance on another king's country, only to get lost on a recon mission - ending up near some cave where a bunch of bones are scattered about, hearing strange noises coming from within and succumbing to the same demons you barely escaped 6 months earlier
- you then find out that whe you die, you really do not die, but end up transported to another part of the known map (keep dieing and you just might get back to where you first started) - every where is a new learning experience within the same world
I could keep going, but you get the idea - an actual alternate world where crap happens and you deal with it. GW is a great game and until the kind of game I dream about comes around the bend, playing this is great fun - I just tend to mind my p's and q's while paying attention to my p's and g's
Besides ever salvage a gold item instead of ID it, by accident, twice - yup, that's me!
- you go to trade, they drop out, the item drops to ground, they pick up and run (then you pull out a throwing dagger, because you are an outstanding member of the Thives Guild and a dagger is a tool of your profession, and make a nice throw catching the scammer beween the shoulder blades. Better get to your item before it runs off again.
- complete open country from end to end of the 'map', real life WTF, and picture you step into a tavern, join a group to go seek revenge on the Baron who stole some guy's sster away and has placed her into some slavery bond
- you wander, make friends, enemies, fight monsters in hordes and small groups, or solo, hide behind bushes to shake the demons following you after that battle at the mouth of their cave where half your party was killed.
- magic is everywhere, but you must learn to master it - LEARN, not just run to a Wizard, click a button, protect for 2 minutes from enemies and POOF! you now know magic.
- become aknight with the king's army to advance on another king's country, only to get lost on a recon mission - ending up near some cave where a bunch of bones are scattered about, hearing strange noises coming from within and succumbing to the same demons you barely escaped 6 months earlier
- you then find out that whe you die, you really do not die, but end up transported to another part of the known map (keep dieing and you just might get back to where you first started) - every where is a new learning experience within the same world
I could keep going, but you get the idea - an actual alternate world where crap happens and you deal with it. GW is a great game and until the kind of game I dream about comes around the bend, playing this is great fun - I just tend to mind my p's and q's while paying attention to my p's and g's
Besides ever salvage a gold item instead of ID it, by accident, twice - yup, that's me!
Lord Bong
SCAMMERS = kick and ban them all !!!
Dazzler
The thing that makes scamming suck and that we should not have to "just deal with it" is once the scam is done, you have no recourse. There are no police to goto. You can't grab the guy and physically force him to give the item/gold back. You cannot follow him out of town then ambush him. Basically the scams being worked take advantage of the limitations of the gaming constraints--these constraints exist so that towns are not full of a bunch of griefers running around and hacking down n00bs and stealing their meager posessions, which is what I understand happened in the PVP shards of UO. Heh that must have been a sight to see.
Mhydrian
Check you screen before acceting. I highly doubt it magically switched to 20g. However the guy ripping you off should be banned. Dont need that kind of scum in the game.
ecto bomb
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when i sold a item,it said 20p, but when trade ended it was saying 20g,now if he can do that to me,anybody can get scammed from him,can that player get banned from gw - game??? |
ecto bomb
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only if you return the item/plat and say you are just roleplaying.otherwise you are simply a thief |
Divine Elemental
HaHa
no ways of scam only idiots get scamed
check before u trade u cant complain about being a idiot
Count Feanor
There are low-lifes everywhere without morals. Don't be surprised if you get scammed. Scammers only care about themselves and never consider others in their actions. What goes around, comes around. I'm sure they will live long fulfilled lives [sarcastic].
NIB
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Ghost of Perdition
If I'm making a big trade, I ALWAYS take a bunch of screenshots during the process. That way if I do get scammed somehow there is a little bit of evidence to show with the report that I WILL make. Its against the EULA to do that crap. It might not make any difference I guess, but it gives me a sense of security. I've been lucky though, and have never been scammed, so I'm not really sure how it would work, lol.
And Divine, you are basically a prick
And Divine, you are basically a prick
Ole Man Bourbon
Heh you're pretty much on your own in these games: screenies are meaningless as they can be photoshopped and the CSRs don't spend time carefully verifying their authenticities to settle disputes. Just don't get scammed, and take solace in the fact that at least you're not someone who tries to steal fake money in a computer game.